ericpnelson Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 owls are actually pretty cool, and if you're name is gonna be manipulated to be made fun of, hooters isn't that awful way to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Wouldn't we actually WANT those students to go to NDSU instead? The Fighting Falcons? I could have gone with that.I could have been happy with a form of that and just be Peregrines. You could still have a Falcon logo, but have a unique name that has a few ties locally. Yes, Peregrines doesn't sound right initially, but all unique names need some time to grow on you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I see there's a lot of student bashing going on lately out of frustration with their preference for fighting hawks. Fetch made a comment a few days ago that really got me thinking. He said Roughriders is just too old school for the kids. I hadn't thought of it in that light before. But, I can see how the students may view both Nodaks and Roughriders as old timer names.... old hick farmers, or 1800's cowboys.... Some/most of us that post here are older and maybe more nostalgic, and don't even think twice about an "older" looking logo or theme. At their age, the students are looking at future only. Maybe Hawks wasn't on their short list at the beginning of the process either, but given the 5 choices, it may have become their favorite by default. I was surprised the voter turnout wasn't greater. The low voter turnout has given the current students a much larger influence on the outcome than I would have imagined. Sioux was an "old timer's name" and they don't have a problem with that. When I think of a University, I think of traditions and history. Some of the most popular apparel people wear have a "throw back" appearance to them. Even as a University student, I appreciated the "old Sioux logos" or older/traditional looking apparel as opposed to the "newer looking" apparel. As an example, I much prefer the horizontal stripes on the hockey jersey than the "slant" stripes they used to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sioux was an "old timer's name" and they don't have a problem with that. When I think of a University, I think of traditions and history. Some of the most popular apparel people wear have a "throw back" appearance to them. Even as a University student, I appreciated the "old Sioux logos" or older/traditional looking apparel as opposed to the "newer looking" apparel. As an example, I much prefer the horizontal stripes on the hockey jersey than the "slant" stripes they used to have. IMO that's because there's a history and tradition. If there was never a Sioux name at UND and they were voting today for a new name, they wouldn't choose Sioux, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Lets be real: The students are flocking to Fighting Hawks for these 3 main reasons1) It has fighting in it2) That logo that was passed around3) H.A.W.K.S (How About We Keep Sioux)What do they all have in common (they want the name that would best be the de-facto Sioux, generic name = still can chant for the Sioux). *What isn't knowledge is that #2 wont happen, and #1 can be changed... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 IMO that's because there's a history and tradition. If there was never a Sioux name at UND and they were voting today for a new name, they wouldn't choose Sioux, eiAnd the fact that the don't realize that Kelley prefers the Hawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sorry, was trying to quote SWSioiuxMN's post. Really dislike the quote function on here.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 If the next vote ends up FH (10,000) Roughriders(9999) and Nodaks(9998). How many names does Kelly forward on to the final vote? It should be 2 right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforcefans Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Sioux was an "old timer's name" and they don't have a problem with that. When I think of a University, I think of traditions and history. Some of the most popular apparel people wear have a "throw back" appearance to them. Even as a University student, I appreciated the "old Sioux logos" or older/traditional looking apparel as opposed to the "newer looking" apparel. As an example, I much prefer the horizontal stripes on the hockey jersey than the "slant" stripes they used to have. IMO that's because there's a history and tradition. If there was never a Sioux name at UND and they were voting today for a new name, they wouldn't choose Sioux, either.Exactly! Situation is completely different. Sioux had a tradition and built in love . What's being picked now is severely hated by many, regardless of which outcome we get. All the conversation on here not withstanding, a small peak into my world: I will not vote Nodak. My wife is vehemently opposed to Rough Riders (GFC grad). Where does that leave us? Yep, we're now down to "which is the least hated" in the house. Fortunately for my being able to return to this board, she and I each have a vote and don't have to compromise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSioux2000 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 talked to a student:Me: why do you think the students like FH so much?Student: it sounds cool, they could have a cool mascotMe: what does that have to do w/ ND,Student: Nothing, i guess.Me: how you feel about Rough RidersStudent: NO! we cant Steal from a highschool, everyone would wear the same clothes, I dont want it to be too western!Me: Wow, ok anything else?Student: there are many kids that wouldnt come here if that were our logo, id rather go to NDSU.ME: (grabs gun) That's just an absolute garbage reason to have Fighting Hawks. I don't know how but I'm going to spread that gif for all to see how crazy it is to become another birdie. Maybe tweet it to Big Bad Brad Schlossman or Miller?Oh and yea that kid can go to NDSU and become a bizun for all I care, I'd rather have UND be Roughriders along with RRHS, than UND be Hawks along with (Insert all the schools). I'm also pretty sure no one outside GFK cares that there's a high school with Roughriders. My high school was the Rams and a lot of kids ended up going to Fordham U or U of Rhode Island, who are the Rams, and they loved it. "Once a Ram, always a Ram," they say. Whatever. Hawks it is. I give up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Now to be fair...General Students = mostly hawksAthletes = Nodaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Wow. I would hope that your average high school student isn't picking the college he wants to pursue his college education on based on how well he likes their nickname. I am not sure UND needs those kind of students. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSioux2000 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Found the new intro song 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetsahead Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I was in Orlando for a work conference this week and wore a polo with the interlocking ND logo on it and on several occasions it was mistaken for a Notre Dame shirt. I think the logo will end up being a very important part of this process regardless of what the name is. The logo needs to be unique and distinctive and we need to put money and effort into branding and marketing it on a wide scale.On the other end of the spectrum, the pilot gave me a "Let's go Sioux!" while we were getting off after he saw my hat (interlocking ND logo). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I was in Orlando for a work conference this week and wore a polo with the interlocking ND logo on it and on several occasions it was mistaken for a Notre Dame shirt. I think the logo will end up being a very important part of this process regardless of what the name is. The logo needs to be unique and distinctive and we need to put money and effort into branding and marketing it on a wide scale.On the other end of the spectrum, the pilot gave me a "Let's go Sioux!" while we were getting off after he saw my hat (interlocking ND logo).I think the heyday of large apparel sales for UND are gone.I think people who are alum and graduated as a Fighting Sioux will be inclined to purchase the same type of apparel that is available now with the interlocking ND and The University of North Dakota, etc.If it is true that most of the students are in favor of Fighting Hawks and the name ends up as something else I think apparel sales will suffer. Also i think most young people in the state would probably have similar tastes.So who is the market? I guess it depends on what name we end up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I could have been happy with a form of that and just be Peregrines. You could still have a Falcon logo, but have a unique name that has a few ties locally. Yes, Peregrines doesn't sound right initially, but all unique names need some time to grow on you. I was originally going to say Peregrines as well but decided to keep it generic. They are also sometimes know as Bullet Hawks......hey look at that we just accidentally came up with 2 names better than any of the remaining selections. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Roughriders Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 UND basketball player Geno Crandall is going off on Twitter about his opinion on what the new nickname should be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 UND basketball player Geno Crandall is going off on Twitter about his opinion on what the new nickname should bewhat is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 will und be sending out emails with links again for the revote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger_UND Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 what is itRoughriders.https://twitter.com/genocrandall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Roughriders.https://twitter.com/genocrandallwonder if schlossman ever interviewed him??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 what is itand of course some redneck dirt tracker is "educating" him on how racist teddy was... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 wonder if schlossman ever interviewed him???He's not on the hockey team, so he doesn't count, remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedorov Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I hate the three remaining choices. I guess I don't vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I hate the three remaining choices. I guess I don't vote? dont vote for what you like...vote for what's best for und and you will be fine...but vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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