Non-UND FCS Thread

[Oxbow6]

12 minutes ago, ChrisUND1 said:

Watched Gene "creepy" Taylor's phone call to Klieman.  I hate the bizon more than most folks, but that phone call made me feel sad and uncomfortable. 

Was Whiskey Joe in the background singing "It's Cold Outside"?

[nd1sufan]

1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said:

Sorry to hear this

does this mean that all current players on scholarship can transfer, without any penalty, if they wanted?

Sorry to say that a good FB program losing a quality coach doesn't make all of the other FCS programs with crappy program and coaching staffs any more attractive. Maybe for a recruit or two for a year or two, but not for the long haul. 

[nd1sufan]

I see the UND360 guys are already predicting a UND manhandling of K-State in 2020. 

[Cratter]

5 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:

I see the UND360 guys are already predicting a UND manhandling of K-State in 2020. 

Smart guys.

It'll be an easy win.

Just like it was against Bohls new team.

[Frozen4sioux]

21 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

You do realize he's moving to Manhattan.........and not the one in NY.

1. Its not fargo. 

2. its not fargo.

3. more money

4. Manhattan KS probably doesnt have a stinking dump in town and on the upwind side of the prevailing wind for most of the year.

5. So in conclusion... its getting out of fargo. 

[SiouxFan100]

4 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:

Sorry to say that a good FB program losing a quality coach doesn't make all of the other FCS programs with crappy program and coaching staffs any more attractive. Maybe for a recruit or two for a year or two, but not for the long haul. 

Very true

but to my question - aren’t all current scholarship players free to transfer without penalty when there is a coaching change - or is it just recruits?

by the way - seen this before at the bisons and I believe they wii just reload. There is a chance a wheel Might go flat though 

[UND1983]

7 minutes ago, nd1sufan said:

I see the UND360 guys are already predicting a UND manhandling of K-State in 2020. 

Should be.

[SiouxFan100]

1 minute ago, Frozen4sioux said:

1. Its not fargo. 

2. its not fargo.

3. more money

4. Manhattan KS probably doesnt have a stinking dump in town and on the upwind side of the prevailing wind for most of the year.

5. So in conclusion... its getting out of fargo. 

K State had some pretty impressive and fun football teams in the past. No reason they can’t become relevant again. They seem to have a nice stadium and enough money.

[homer]

Just now, SiouxFan100 said:

Very true

but to my question - aren’t all current scholarship players free to transfer without penalty when there is a coaching change - or is it just recruits?

by the way - seen this before at the bisons and I believe they wii just reload. There is a chance a wheel Might go flat though 

I believe players can ask for permission to transfer.  I'm not sure on new NCAA rules and if schools can still permit where players can and can't go.  I also don't know if a coaching change would be good enough reason for the NCAA to waive the no sit policy.  They are not the most consistent on the enforcement of their rules.

[UNDBIZ]

2 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

But to my question - aren’t all current scholarship players free to transfer without penalty when there is a coaching change - ?

No

[nd1sufan]

Just now, SiouxFan100 said:

Very true

but to my question - aren’t all current scholarship players free to transfer without penalty when there is a coaching change - or is it just recruits?

by the way - seen this before at the bisons and I believe they wii just reload. There is a chance a wheel Might go flat though 

I don't think so, Unless they transfer down to D2 or lower they need to sit out a year. I don't believe recruits that have actually signed a letter of intent can get out unless the school releases them. Most schools would, but they don't have to. 

[geaux_sioux]

40 minutes ago, Hawkster said:

I learned after Bohl left, don't get your hopes up about the Bison dropping back to the middle of the pack.   They are, beyond a doubt the luckiest SOB's I've ever seen.   They will have old and new coaches that will do the same as before, and we'll have old and new coaches that will do the same as before.   That's life.

You could maybe get lucky for one or two titles but cmon, this is not luck anymore. 

[geaux_sioux]

13 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

1. Its not fargo. 

2. its not fargo.

3. more money

4. Manhattan KS probably doesnt have a stinking dump in town and on the upwind side of the prevailing wind for most of the year.

5. So in conclusion... its getting out of fargo. 

I would go with Fargo over anywhere in Kansas.

[Hawkster]

44 minutes ago, dmksioux said:

You really believe it’s luck?

You really believe I'd give them credit for skill? 

[Cratter]

I was curious how much a year Hakstol made per year after leaving UND.

$2 million.

[nd1sufan]

Just now, Cratter said:

I was curious how much a year Hakstol made per year after leaving UND.

$6 million.

I don't know but that seems high. Maybe half that? 

[nd1sufan]

3 minutes ago, Cratter said:

I was curious how much a year Hakstol made per year after leaving UND.

$6 million.

It was reported as $10m over 5 years. 

[Cratter]

I had edited it right away....You're just too quick....or boredly refeshing SiouxSports constantly.

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, gundy1124 said:

In all seriousness, SU should send him on his way, he just took another job.  I heard Bohl and Klieman had to be physically seperated in the locker room, I think in Frisco, when Bohl was hired at WY but stayed on.  

Recruiting and signing date......awkward!!

Klieman took the phone call to accept the job while at practice. KSU gives him $12+ million over the next 5 years and you think they aren't in a hurry to get him working? They have something like 9 commits, dead period starts Monday and early signing day on the 19th. I'm sure he's laser focused... 

[nd1sufan]

1 minute ago, jdub27 said:

Klieman takes the phone call to accept the job while at practice. KSU gives him $12+ million over the next 5 years and you think they aren't in a hurry to get him working? They have something like 9 commits, dead period starts Monday and early signing day on the 19th. I'm sure he's laser focused... 

I agree. I wold say thanks for the service but you need to leave now. Not in anger or anything, but they don't need someone with half (or more) of his focus 700 mikes away. And honestly his future relies more on him recruiting kids to KSU more than winning a football game on Friday Night. 

[UND1983]

"We recruit against Power Fives not on a yearly basis, but on a daily basis and we have a really good plan in place to try to attract and get some of those kids to come play in our system offensively and defensively."

Ummmmmmmm, Chris.  Yah, um, no you don't recruit against P5 schools on a daily basis and they hired you to beat Oklahoma and Texas.  The kids you're recruiting now are not going to do that.  Beating one P5 school a year for a player is not a daily basis. 

Holy sh-t what was that.

[nd1sufan]

2 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

"We recruit against Power Fives not on a yearly basis, but on a daily basis and we have a really good plan in place to try to attract and get some of those kids to come play in our system offensively and defensively."

Ummmmmmmm, Chris.  Yah, um, no you don't recruit against P5 schools on a daily basis and they hired you to beat Oklahoma and Texas.  The kids you're recruiting now are not going to do that.  Beating one P5 school a year for a player is not a daily basis. 

Holy sh-t what was that.

Well, they may offer several kids that have Power 5 offers every year, which they do, and get one or two each year. Maybe not on a daily basis though,

 

[The Sicatoka]

Congrats to Klieman. He earned it and you don’t walk away from that kind of money when offered. 

That said, this means nothing for UND but get back on task of getting better. 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

The Wabbits C an opportunity @ the Manure Pit and question if the new K-State coach will even show up?

Many upset K-State fans on their forum with the CK hire.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

Will Klieman get fired along with any coaches leaving? Wouldn't recruiting become a potential conflict of interest starting tomorrow morning?