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Reading all this just reminds me of last year against Montana. I am not sure if Jordan Johnson had an injury prior but we were getting to him constantly and I saw his dad pacing back and forth and even going down to the sideline. I guess it wasn't his mother worrying but his father was. I don't wish injury on any player we play but it is nice to put a little scare into them.

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Not disagreeing with you. I guess when I said you don't target the angle, I meant more, don't go out there taking cheap shots to hurt, re-injure, extend the injury of a player. Truth is, I wouldn't want to see my team taking cheap shots against anyone injured or not. I think we are on the same page relating to go hard after the player, especially if they are willing to take the risk and play. I'm just not for playing cheap to injure, not that I think most people are.

 

1. Teams target known injuries on opponents all the time. It's common practice and widely known and done in football and hockey*. I'm fine with practice as long as it's kept within the limits of the rules (i.e. no bounties or illegal hits). Don't believe me? Look at all the times guys could try to tackle Tony Romo up around the shoulders but instead go in at the hip (lower back) level. 

2. Yes, I'm a moderator. And ... 

 

*In hockey they've gotten smart enough to stay abstract with ever popular "upper body" or "lower body" injury reports. 

 

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Here is what the Bison Faithful think of us, see their comments below, concerning the injury to Wentz-  If Wentz plays, we will absolutely bring more pressure than say maybe a normal game plan to test his mobility.

I don't see this as a blessing. The best way to be sure Carson and our WR are on the same page come conference play is game reps. We may beat the next two teams by 40 points per game but next up is SDSU who will be ready. I don't want a rusty QB for that one.

 This may be a blessing in disguise. Stick needs some real reps as we will need both down the road, and next two games are candy ass teams.

Sit Carson until the Jacks game. That will give his ankle 1 month to heal. The Bison can easily beat Weber and UND w/o him.

Actually, he should be fully healed up by Oct 3 when we play SDSU. Until then it's nothing but byes and cupcakes.

It's what one Bison faithful thinks.

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You don't see a problem with specifically targeting the injured part on a player? If you are teaching sound defense, would you ever advocate for a player to ankle tackle? 

Never seen Bison fans advocate that we specifically hit a player in a part of the body that they have an injury. 

I never once once said I didn't agree with targeting Wentz as a QB by blitzing him. Target the !@#$ out of him. If however you go into the game and specifically try to hit his ankle to knock him out of the game, you have crossed the line.

You should never ever ever target a play with the intent to injure them. Period. 

To the first bold section, I say balderdash. If I know you have deep muscle bruise on the outside of your bicep I'm giving you a legal, within the rules, whack on it every chance I get. And I'm going to ask you how it feels after each one. 

To your second point, you are correct. You play within the rules. 

Finally, Wentz is Wentz. He'll be eluding and escaping UND's LBs all day. Their only hope in the diving ankle tackle. ;) 

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No bison fan is saying don't tackle his ankle, what pisses everyone off, is your moderator said tackle his ankle and roll or twist his ankle!  Pretty stupid comment for a moderator to make.

Do you really want to talk about your moderator?  He cheers when Grand Forks floods and wants it and Minot firebombed.  But thats ok with bisonville because all Sioux fans should be liquidated.  

Tony Crawford is an unredeemed life form.

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Do you really want to talk about your moderator?  He cheers when Grand Forks floods and wants it and Minot firebombed.  But that ok with bisonville because all Sioux fans should be liquidated.  

Tony Crawford is an unredeemed life form.

Wow. Just wow.

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Sure is a lot of crying by the Bison faithful on this thread.  It's part of the game and every program/ team does it.  Hell I've seen film of Bison O-linemen hi-lowing opposing d-lineman and taunting them after they've injured their knees.  Even in the Montana game, Deluca delivered a headshot on Montana's QB when he was sliding.  How it wasn't flagged as a 15 yard penalty is beyond me.  It's a brutal game and if that's too tough for you then start watching golf and cheerleading.

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Sure is a lot of crying by the Bison faithful on this thread.  It's part of the game and every program/ team does it.  Hell I've seen film of Bison O-linemen hi-lowing opposing d-lineman and taunting them after they've injured their knees.  Even in the Montana game, Deluca delivered a headshot on Montana's QB when he was sliding.  How it wasn't flagged as a 15 yard penalty is beyond me.  It's a brutal game and if that's too tough for you then start watching golf and cheerleading.

Thought the same thing when it happened.  QB goes down to slide and the LB'er put his head down, leading with it. Montana's QB was lucky he slid low enough and to the side and only took a shoulder to his head instead of a helmet.

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So now your fraternities feel it is ok to beat up homosexuals? Your university is a complete dumpster fire!

Hey, lets not go there. Lets not associate the dumb action of someone with an entire campus of students. We all know there are moron students at every school. We'll see what comes out of this, but I don't think anyone condones physical assault, certainly because of sexual orientation. Personally I think drunk kids who get in fights for no reason are morons, but if you are really going to target someone because of their sexual orientation then you deserve whatever comes your way, I don't care where you go to school.

Now if we're going to insult school based on sports teams that one thing, lets leave the rest of the crap elsewhere.

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Thought the same thing when it happened.  QB goes down to slide and the LB'er put his head down, leading with it. Montana's QB was lucky he slid low enough and to the side and only took a shoulder to his head instead of a helmet.

DeLuca was going for a good old ankle tackle because that is the proper way for a DB or LB to tackle a QB. The Montana QB slides at the same time DeLuca tries to make the ankle tackle. There was nothing he could do.

 

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Hey, lets not go there. Lets not associate the dumb action of someone with an entire campus of students. We all know there are moron students at every school. We'll see what comes out of this, but I don't think anyone condones physical assault, certainly because of sexual orientation. Personally I think drunk kids who get in fights for no reason are morons, but if you are really going to target someone because of their sexual orientation then you deserve whatever comes your way, I don't care where you go to school.

Now if we're going to insult school based on sports teams that one thing, lets leave the rest of the crap elsewhere.

I agree with you, but when the university and its faculty and students are in the printed news on a weekly basis lately for prostitution, child porn, homosexual beatings it kind of paints a dark picture, doesn't it?

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To the first bold section, I say balderdash. If I know you have deep muscle bruise on the outside of your bicep I'm giving you a legal, within the rules, whack on it every chance I get. And I'm going to ask you how it feels after each one. 

To your second point, you are correct. You play within the rules. 

Finally, Wentz is Wentz. He'll be eluding and escaping UND's LBs all day. Their only hope in the diving ankle tackle. ;) 

I really hope you nver coach against my nephew's wheelchair basketball team.

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I remember a couple of years ago Montana came to Grand Forks and the word was Vernon Adams was hurt and not gonna play, listed as injured blah, blah...Even had some Montana fans tailgating with us who were a little droopy about him not playing. Guess what he played.

I know the game "isn't important" to their fans but you can bet he's not going to miss a chance to play UND.

I'm hoping Carson's mom doesn't enjoy the game.  

She loves every game win or lose. If you want to stop by and say hi to her at the tailgate the 19th come on over. And Carson will do what's best for the team. If he isn't ready he won't play. He and the team have plenty of faith in Stick like they the team did in Carson had Jensen ever went down.

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DeLuca was going for a good old ankle tackle because that is the proper way for a DB or LB to tackle a QB. The Montana QB slides at the same time DeLuca tries to make the ankle tackle. There was nothing he could do.

So jokes about head shots and injuries is OK but ankles are off limits. Glad we've cleared that up. 

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I agree with you, but when the university and its faculty and students are in the printed news on a weekly basis lately for prostitution, child porn, homosexual beatings it kind of paints a dark picture, doesn't it?

I don't live in the region anymore, and don't see all of this news. Not sure what you are referring to, but it doesn't sound pretty. Frankly at that point I don't really care about University affiliation; actions like that speak loudly about the individual not the school. I don't recall any sort of character test when I applied for school, they go purely off of academics.

Students all over the country would be rejected from colleges if character/personality was in the equation. Ted Kaczynski was accepted to Harvard, then Michigan, and taught at CAL. Wouldn't change my opinion of those schools based on him.

Everyone wants their alma mater to be painted in the best light, but unfortunately every school has those who tarnish the name.

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