2015 season

[gfhockey]

Iverson has a long rap sheet if that's the correct on. 

[jdub27]

Iverson has a long rap sheet if that's the correct on. 

Its not, quit trying drag a kid's name through the mud even if you're only implying it might be.

[UND-FB-FAN]

He isn't smarter. He hasn't made better quicker decisions in games yet cuz he hasn't done much. Joe is an excellent student and completed last semester with a 4.0. The thing I believe makes people uneasy is that Studsrud hasn't done anything yet.  He completed less than 40% of his passes last fall even though we were finally getting something out of our running game and the oline.  He did nothing in the spring game and didn't separate himself this fall.  This is a big year for the program and this staff.  I'm not sure how he moved ahead of Bartles before practice started this spring.  Once there however I assume neither Mollberg or Bartles did enough to displace him.  I'm a Gene Murphy disciple so I believe that you go with the veteran until the vet shows that he  can't get it done or until the younger guy is clearly the choice. Neither of those things have happened.  The other school is to go with the younger guy and let them play through their mistakes.  My job doesn't depend on these decisions.  Bubba's does so you gotta trust him and his staff.

Mollberg had the luxury of watching the games while playing scout team QB during his true freshman season. Studsrud didn't have that luxury - he deserves a proper chance as the starting QB. Joe had that opportunity last season; unfortunately, it didn't end well. 

I understand both schools of thought, and I agree with the latter of the two you mentioned, to a degree. You can't have a class system; the best player plays. Seniority is important, but you can't let it breed complacency.  

[Csonked Out]

Iverson has a long rap sheet if that's the correct on. 

It's not, he is a good kid that made a mistake. This isn't a legal matter.

[gfhockey]

Never said it was. That's why I asked

 

im glad you guys cleared it up

[UND-FB-FAN]

suspensions?

NG Tank Harris - 1 game (Wyoming)

FB Dustin Iverson - 2 games (Wyoming and Drake)

[Teeder11]

Not disagreeing one bit with what Ira and Csonked Out are saying. I just wish Joe would step up and show us what we all know he is capable of and separate himself from the pack and quit making it so damn hard for coaches to go with him. I was at most of the fall camp practices and Joe and Keaton were always neck and neck regardless of the which team they were working with.  If you want to start and you have the ability then leave no doubt and the rest will sort itself out. That has not been done by any QB in spring or fall camp. 

Edited August 26, 2015 by Teeder11

[bang]

Not disagreeing one bit with what Ira and Csonked Out are saying. I just wish Joe would step up and show us what we all know he is capable of and separate himself from the pack and quit making it so damn hard for coaches to go with him. I was at most of the fall camp practices and Joe and Keaton were always neck and neck regardless of the which team they were working with.  If you want to start and you have the ability then leave no doubt and the rest will sort itself out. That has not been done by any QB in spring or fall camp. 

We'll just have to see how things turn out on the 5th. I'm still hoping our expectations of Mollberg come to fruition but if Studsrud exceeds his expectations so be it. 

[Csonked Out]

The thing about his injury is that a lot of the recovery is mental as well, much like an ACL. You have to have confidence that your body will do what it is supposed to when you plant that foot. I fully expect Molberg to be in the game sooner rather than later, he just has to get his head back in the game and trust that he is healthy.

[SooToo]

Improvement is more than possible.

If it wasn't, then why not just throw every true freshman into the games, and if they perform poorly, assume there's no hope. If that low completion percentage improves and is well over 50%, and he's throwing more touchdowns than interceptions, I think Studsrud will have a good sophomore campaign. Let's keep everything realistic. No reason Studsrud can't complete 50% of his throws and have more TDs than INTs...

No offense, but your statement is pretty obvious. The question is will he do it. Most everyone posting here  is hoping for the best, and I'll be as pleased as anybody if he gets under center next week, makes sound decisions and directs a solid passing game. But game time ain't practice, and the 58 efficiency rating and the 2 TD passes vs 6 interceptions jut leave me a little uneasy. I think both Molberg's and Bartel's game stats eclipsed Studrud's last year, and if no one clearly separated from the pack in fall camp, I'm a little puzzled by this decision.

Edited August 26, 2015 by SooToo

[Irish]

I still want Mollberg as QB. I like Studsrud but Mollberg showed something special right before he was knocked out against PSU.

Actually, we have been waiting quite a long time (Junior now) for Molberg to show us something special outside of a couple of series.  He has shown no substained excellence, although neither has our other highly regarded recruit, Bartles.  I really think it says something that both are behind a second year man.  How long have we been waiting for someone to claim the QB position?

[Siouxperman8]

what was Joe's QB rating last year?  I though I saw it at 105 or 108.  If that is true I am surprised he didn't get the first shot.

Edit:  I looked it up:

Mollberg - 108.5 rating in 2014

Studsrud - 58.4 rating in 2014

I realize that Studsrud was thrown into the fire but that is quite a difference and am surprised it wasn't Joe's job to lose.  Doesn't sound like that was the case this fall.

Edited August 26, 2015 by Siouxperman8

[UND-1]

He isn't smarter. He hasn't made better quicker decisions in games yet cuz he hasn't done much. Joe is an excellent student and completed last semester with a 4.0. The thing I believe makes people uneasy is that Studsrud hasn't done anything yet.  He completed less than 40% of his passes last fall even though we were finally getting something out of our running game and the oline.  He did nothing in the spring game and didn't separate himself this fall.  This is a big year for the program and this staff.  I'm not sure how he moved ahead of Bartles before practice started this spring.  Once there however I assume neither Mollberg or Bartles did enough to displace him.  I'm a Gene Murphy disciple so I believe that you go with the veteran until the vet shows that he  can't get it done or until the younger guy is clearly the choice. Neither of those things have happened.  The other school is to go with the younger guy and let them play through their mistakes.  My job doesn't depend on these decisions.  Bubba's does so you gotta trust him and his staff.

Doesn't sound like you trust the Bubba very much when reading your posts.  A lot of questioning of the decision in your last two posts.

You are obviously a Mollberg guy but it should be pretty telling that he is 3rd behind Bartels, even.  

For you guys going by last years stats...seriously?  The kid didn't start practicing with the #1s until after the Portland State game (Week 8).  Then what does he get for a first day on the job?  Eastern Washington in the Inferno.  He was 18 years old, give the kid a chance.  Mollberg has had two years to show us and hasn't done it yet.

[Irish]

what was Joe's QB rating last year?  I though I saw it at 105 or 108.  If that is true I am surprised he didn't get the first shot.

Edit:  I looked it up:

Mollberg - 108.5 rating in 2014

Studsrud - 58.4 rating in 2014

I realize that Studsrud was thrown into the fire but that is quite a difference and am surprised it wasn't Joe's job to lose.  Doesn't sound like that was the case this fall.

There is no denying that Bubba has had a huge grace period given the relief we all had escaping from the dumpster fire that was Muss (although the Muss regardless of anything supporters share some of the blame).  This is his first big decision that could be second guessed.  Even though the mantra is "all hail Bubba ball" now is the time we need to see it on the field.  Not saying he is wrong, just saying this is an important decision for Sioux football.  

[sioux24/7]

It would sure be nice to have Sam Riddle or Kurt Palendech right about now.

[UNDvince97-01]

Raise your hand (with your keyboard) if you know Rudolph's offense, the playcalling, checks at the line and progressions for the qb on every play that you may or may not have seen since last season. Add into that the intangibles of leadership, command of the huddle, and teammates willingness and confidence to believe in any qb to best give them the chance to win.

Furthermore, raise your mouse if you have watched the film in staff meetings of games and practices since last season to make a case for any of the qbs. If you did, how did each guy grade out?

This coaching staff lives, breathes and eats this stuff for a career and living. This is their livelihood- literally. We all need to trust their evals to put this team in the best position to win, on and off the field.

If a pattern of poor coaching decisions emerges over the next couple seasons, have at it. Until then, can we just let them do their jobs and see how it plays out before we tell everyone here how wrong they are/were? We only have 11 games under the belt of this regime.

I more than trust the evals and judgment of the depth chart decisions that have been made thus far. 

It's clear to me that Studsrud WON this job since last year in the eyes of the people who matter most. Nothing more, nothing less.

Edited August 26, 2015 by UNDvince97-01
correction

[geaux_sioux]

Actually, we have been waiting quite a long time (Junior now) for Molberg to show us something special outside of a couple of series.  He has shown no substained excellence, although neither has our other highly regarded recruit, Bartles.  I really think it says something that both are behind a second year man.  How long have we been waiting for someone to claim the QB position?

Joe was excellent against Montana and PSU. Those were the last times he played. My money is still on him to lead this team this year. 

[choyt3]

The inference has been made on this board before, as well as today, that players may leave if they don't win position battles. Are those young men strong enough athletes (mentally and physically) to make a position change and contribute to UND football? I understand it is early yet and lots can happen, but is that even a possibility? 

[iramurphy]

If you read my posts I have already stated the obvious that I am probably biased.  I have also stated you trust the coaches that are watching the players.  Doesn't mean we can't question things. I disagree that Mollberg and Bartles haven't shown anything.  They have overcome poor protection and no running game and both had some very good play.  Mollberg was playing well when he got hurt.  I don't want to keep kicking a dead horse cuz I'm not going to change anyone's opinion and the coaches picked their guy.  If he can't get the job done they are the guys who are held accountable not us as fans.  Go Sioux!

 

 

 

 

[SWSiouxMN]

Only 1 way to find out.  In Keaton we trust until otherwise stated.

[Sioux94]

what was Joe's QB rating last year?  I though I saw it at 105 or 108.  If that is true I am surprised he didn't get the first shot.

Edit:  I looked it up:

Mollberg - 108.5 rating in 2014

Studsrud - 58.4 rating in 2014

I realize that Studsrud was thrown into the fire but that is quite a difference and am surprised it wasn't Joe's job to lose.  Doesn't sound like that was the case this fall.

Here are the stats I read in today's article for their career

Mollberg:  10 TD's     18 INT's

Bartels:    9 TD's     8 INT's

Studsrud:   2 TD's    6 INT's 

Those are all really dismal numbers all the way around.  Studsrud gets some slack as he was thrown in there, but has a lot to prove.  Joe was playing well right before he got hurt, however 10 TD's and 18 INT's.....which would be the real Joe going forward, who knows.  For us to be a playoff team, we have to have a QB who is at least in the top half of our own league, in my opinion.  Going into this year that is certainly not the case, but I'm sure hoping they take a step forward.  Why is it every time our offense has the ball I'm half afraid something bad will happen, INT...snap over the head etc.   Hopefully that is in the past and we make big strides this year, but I'm certainly quite concerned about our QB play until I start seeing some good solid consistent play.  Studsrud will make some mistakes early on, but hopefully he can make enough big plays to make up for it. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

Joe was excellent against Montana and PSU. Those were the last times he played. My money is still on him to lead this team this year. 

So you think the 2015 squad is going to only win 4 to 5 games? If Mollberg is the starter this season, that means Studsrud failed, which means several losses to start the season. 

I have enough faith in Bubba and Rudolph to believe that Studsrud is the best QB on the roster; not someone who had a losing record as the starting QB last season and is coming off a a very difficult injury. 

[Oxbow6]

Mollberg came to UND highly touted with every opportunity to grab this program by the throat and run with it......he didn't come close to doing that.  Bartels stepped in and at times looked the part of a D1 QB.  Studsrud was handed the ball in a situation last year not many 18 year olds are put in. I have no problem with the depth chart at QB entering the season as laid out by Bubba. 

[iramurphy]

I have no problem with what Bubba is doing either. I don't agree Mollberg has had any any more opportunity than anyone else. Mollberg came in and after a decent spring and what seemed to be a decent fall camp sat behind Bartles for the first few games. They pulled Bartles and  he led the comeback against Montana .  Neither QB knew from week to week who was going to play and the play calling for both Bartles and Mollberg in addition to poor protection by the Oline hampered both of them. Neither Bartles nor Mollberg should be judged too harshly when you consider the Oline they have played behind and the beating they both have taken the last two  years. I think Mollberg was close to showing his true potential last fall before he got hurt.  With the potential we have a QB with these three guys and if what you say is true,  I have to wonder why we aren't seeing the improvement we should should expect from each of them.  We need to be able to develop our QB's.

[Teeder11]

I have no problem with what Bubba is doing either. I don't agree Mollberg has had any any more opportunity than anyone else. Mollberg came in and after a decent spring and what seemed to be a decent fall camp sat behind Bartles for the first few games. They pulled Bartles and  he led the comeback against Montana .  Neither QB knew from week to week who was going to play and the play calling for both Bartles and Mollberg in addition to poor protection by the Oline hampered both of them. Neither Bartles nor Mollberg should be judged too harshly when you consider the Oline they have played behind and the beating they both have taken the last two  years. I think Mollberg was close to showing his true potential last fall before he got hurt.  With the potential we have a QB with these three guys and if what you say is true,  I have to wonder why we aren't seeing the improvement we should should expect from each of them.  We need to be able to develop our QB's.

I find this curious, too. We have a coaching specialist for virtually every position group except arguably the most important one -- the field general -- the QB. So what we do have is a situation where the OC is tasked with overseeing and planning for the entire offensive side of the ball, and oh by they way, now and again, he tries to give the QBs the support they need. It might be nice to have someone who could work more full-time with the QBs so when Coach Rudy does what he is supposed to and floats around to oversee all his position groups, there is still someone competent at the helm guiding and mentoring the QBs.

Edited August 26, 2015 by Teeder11