OgieOgilthorpe Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 On 6/26/2019 at 7:05 PM, Sioux>Bison said: Real order should be: Fargo>Bismarck>Grand Forks>Minot>Jamestown>Dickinson> Williston> All other cities in ND small towns are ok for people who stay inside all day.... That's a gross placement for Jamestown...Wow. I'd put Dickinson, Williston, Devils Lake, and a few others before Jamestown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgieOgilthorpe Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 https://www.inforum.com/news/3974446-ROBIN-HUEBNER-REPORTS-Fargo-Parks-Sanford-to-partner-in-major-southside-sports-complex Misery Loves Company As the finer folks of Minot flock to Bismarck and Fargo, I have a hunch the bleeding of population from Grand Forks to Fargo has only been worse and will undoubtedly keep getting worse with each one of these new developments in the F/M. Is Fargo in the works to start passing Grand Forks in the only competitive (downright dominant) sport they have left? We've been seeing the creep with Davies, and unfortunately I think it's only a matter of time before one of the WF schools starts to pull away as well. In ten years will class A only consist of state titles won by Bis or Fargo schools? It's pretty dang close to that as it is. Crazy to think that 15 years ago(or less) Minot, GF, Bis and Fargo were all relatively similar in size and HS talent. Final note- It's almost disappointing that Minot and GF are building new health care facilities, because that pretty much crushes any hopes of a Sanford buyout. It would be nice to have a reliable and solidified health care system to set a stronghold pillar of the community unlike Altru and Trinity. I think Rydell and Simplot have probably actually done a better job than Altru in Grand Forks. Minot doesn't really have much else to fall back on other than some of the oil companies who chip in here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forksandspoons Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Going back to this article, it looks like the UAS industry will give Grand Forks the shot in the arm it needs: UAS jobs were at 438 in Grand Forks in 2018, and leaders expect that number to reach 1,000 in the next couple of years. https://www.inforum.com/business/technology/4487413-north-dakota-unmanned-aircraft-industry-takes LM Windpower also announced they are adding around 200 jobs within the last year. It's not all doom and gloom because Grand Forks isn't keeping up with Fargo. Could it do better? Probably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 hours ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: https://www.inforum.com/news/3974446-ROBIN-HUEBNER-REPORTS-Fargo-Parks-Sanford-to-partner-in-major-southside-sports-complex Misery Loves Company As the finer folks of Minot flock to Bismarck and Fargo, I have a hunch the bleeding of population from Grand Forks to Fargo has only been worse and will undoubtedly keep getting worse with each one of these new developments in the F/M. Is Fargo in the works to start passing Grand Forks in the only competitive (downright dominant) sport they have left? We've been seeing the creep with Davies, and unfortunately I think it's only a matter of time before one of the WF schools starts to pull away as well. In ten years will class A only consist of state titles won by Bis or Fargo schools? It's pretty dang close to that as it is. Crazy to think that 15 years ago(or less) Minot, GF, Bis and Fargo were all relatively similar in size and HS talent. Final note- It's almost disappointing that Minot and GF are building new health care facilities, because that pretty much crushes any hopes of a Sanford buyout. It would be nice to have a reliable and solidified health care system to set a stronghold pillar of the community unlike Altru and Trinity. I think Rydell and Simplot have probably actually done a better job than Altru in Grand Forks. Minot doesn't really have much else to fall back on other than some of the oil companies who chip in here and there. Wow, I guess I better start preparing the obituary for Grand Forks. Easy Chicken Little. The sky is not falling. Grand Forks is growing, not shrinking. I have lived here for over 40 years and traffic is worse than I can ever remember. And all those apartments and town homes going up on the south side are not being built for ghosts. Slow but steady growth is better than explosive growth. This was a great place to grow up, a great place to get an education and it is still a great place to live. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Are new people moving to the developments in south Grand Forks or is the population just shifting from the north end? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Are new people moving to the developments in south Grand Forks or is the population just shifting from the north end? The traffic is a pretty good indicator that it is the former and not the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: The traffic is a pretty good indicator that it is the former and not the latter. Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 It will be interesting to see the census results coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgieOgilthorpe Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! said: It will be interesting to see the census results coming up. Yes I'm very interested to see the census. Hopefully it shows a little better results than we're thinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Grand Forks grows by about 800-1000 people per year. It is what it is. That's usually about 5-8 new large apartment complexes, 50-100 houses, and 4-6 new businesses (and/or existing ones expanding). One new business being built right now is just off the interstate and 32nd ave next to Revolutions Power Sports. Anyone know what it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 If Grand Forks was more business-friendly it would grow much faster. The way the city is run is a joke sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 https://tedmag.com/border-states-breaks-ground-on-new-branch-in-grand-forks-nd/ Will Border States relocate there from Mill Road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunder15 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Cratter said: Grand Forks grows by about 800-1000 people per year. It is what it is. That's usually about 5-8 new large apartment complexes, 50-100 houses, and 4-6 new businesses (and/or existing ones expanding). One new business being built right now is just off the interstate and 32nd ave next to Revolutions Power Sports. Anyone know what it is? That will be the new location for Iron Hide Equipment, the Bobcat dealer on gateway Drive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgieOgilthorpe Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: If Grand Forks was more business-friendly it would grow much faster. The way the city is run is a joke sometimes. Brownville? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, OgieOgilthorpe said: Brownville? It’s more than just him. GF doesn’t need to be Fargo, but GF should have the “how can we help you succeed” always open for business mentality that has made Fargo thrive. They have more than a geographical advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, geaux_sioux said: It’s more than just him. GF doesn’t need to be Fargo, but GF should have the “how can we help you succeed” always open for business mentality that has made Fargo thrive. They have more than a geographical advantage. Good point, as long as we don't let business come in and dictate what and where we build. We need to strike a balance between business-friendly and business-centric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Until we get more interstate exchanges building will be slow should be at least 3 new ones between grand forks and Thompson seems fargo has one very mile on 94 and more on 29 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kab said: Until we get more interstate exchanges building will be slow should be at least 3 new ones between grand forks and Thompson seems fargo has one very mile on 94 and more on 29 Top candidates for the next Interstate Interchange: -17th Avenue South (next to the Alerus Center). -47th Avenue South (the city is growing in that area). -Merrifield Road (bridge is already there, just need to add ramps). The new south-end bridge (it is inevitable that we will need one whether people like it or not) should go in at 47th Avenue South; it would impact far fewer people than 32nd Avenue South. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 55 minutes ago, Kab said: Until we get more interstate exchanges building will be slow should be at least 3 new ones between grand forks and Thompson seems fargo has one very mile on 94 and more on 29 Great point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, homer said: Great point EXCEPT...more exits equals reduced speed. In Fargo the limit goes from 75 to 55 in an instant and stays there on both 29 and 94 (we can certainly argue whether that speed was set appropriately, but that's another topic). Who here wants to be forced to drive 55 through sleepy GFK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: EXCEPT...more exits equals reduced speed. In Fargo the limit goes from 75 to 55 in an instant and stays there on both 29 and 94 (we can certainly argue whether that speed was set appropriately, but that's another topic). Who here wants to be forced to drive 55 through sleepy GFK? And who drives 55mph. No one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: EXCEPT...more exits equals reduced speed. In Fargo the limit goes from 75 to 55 in an instant and stays there on both 29 and 94 (we can certainly argue whether that speed was set appropriately, but that's another topic). Who here wants to be forced to drive 55 through sleepy GFK? If that’s the best reason to pass on trying to supply the infrastructure for growth than I guess Grand Forks deserves to remain what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 4 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: It’s more than just him. GF doesn’t need to be Fargo, but GF should have the “how can we help you succeed” always open for business mentality that has made Fargo thrive. They have more than a geographical advantage. This. literally this. The current and future generation of business THRIVES on inclusion. Grand Forks gives the impression of actively and aggressively keeping small business and entrepreneurs “off their lawn” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: EXCEPT...more exits equals reduced speed. In Fargo the limit goes from 75 to 55 in an instant and stays there on both 29 and 94 (we can certainly argue whether that speed was set appropriately, but that's another topic). Who here wants to be forced to drive 55 through sleepy GFK? For all of what 6 minutes? Most people in Fargo go at least 70 in that area anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMeister Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 hours ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: EXCEPT...more exits equals reduced speed. In Fargo the limit goes from 75 to 55 in an instant and stays there on both 29 and 94 (we can certainly argue whether that speed was set appropriately, but that's another topic). Who here wants to be forced to drive 55 through sleepy GFK? I believe whether urban interstate speed limits are lower is determined by population/density of the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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