UNDBIZ Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 1999-00 Colorado College 18-18-3 .500 2000-01 Colorado College 27-13-1 .671 2001-02 Colorado College 27-13-3 .663 2002-03 Colorado College 30-7-5 .774 2003-04 Colorado College 20-16-3 .551 2004-05 Colorado College 31-9-3 .756 2005-06 Colorado College 24-16-2 .595 2006-07 Colorado College 18-17-4 .513 2007-08 Colorado College 28-12-1 .695 2008-09 Colorado College 16-12-10 .553 2009-10 Colorado College 19-17-3 .526 2010-11 Colorado College 23-19-3 .544 2011-12 Colorado College 18-16-2 .528 2012-13 Colorado College 18-19-5 .488 Totals (14 seasons) 317-204-48 .599 I think that's a pretty good track record, don't you? Certainly better than 21-34.
fightingsioux4life Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 1999-00 Colorado College 18-18-3 .500 2000-01 Colorado College 27-13-1 .671 2001-02 Colorado College 27-13-3 .663 2002-03 Colorado College 30-7-5 .774 2003-04 Colorado College 20-16-3 .551 2004-05 Colorado College 31-9-3 .756 2005-06 Colorado College 24-16-2 .595 2006-07 Colorado College 18-17-4 .513 2007-08 Colorado College 28-12-1 .695 2008-09 Colorado College 16-12-10 .553 2009-10 Colorado College 19-17-3 .526 2010-11 Colorado College 23-19-3 .544 2011-12 Colorado College 18-16-2 .528 2012-13 Colorado College 18-19-5 .488 Totals (14 seasons) 317-204-48 .599 I think that's a pretty good track record, don't you? I am not saying Owens should be canned; I think he he's done a good job at a small, private school with fewer resources than UND, UM, UW, etc. But I talked to a sportswriter from the Colorado Springs Gazette in my hotel at last year's Final Five and he says there are some fans grumbling that the Tigers don't have enough postseason success. I imagine if enough big-shot alums complain enough, someone in the administration might get it in their head that a change needs to be made. My point is that contract extensions don't provide the protection they once might have.
Frozen4sioux Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Id say any of those people that may be grumbling at CC may have glanced over at how things have gone for DU....and found the greener side of the pasture as far as Owens is concerned. Id be shocked to see him go anywhere.
bigskyvikes Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I am not saying Owens should be canned; I think he he's done a good job at a small, private school with fewer resources than UND, UM, UW, etc. But I talked to a sportswriter from the Colorado Springs Gazette in my hotel at last year's Final Five and he says there are some fans grumbling that the Tigers don't have enough postseason success. I imagine if enough big-shot alums complain enough, someone in the administration might get it in their head that a change needs to be made. My point is that contract extensions don't provide the protection they once might have. I always chuckle when people think "alums" have any kind of power to pick or fire coaches. Like on this site (some) alums think they should pick the new nickname for the Sioux! The only thing alums can do is say they are an alum... Alums have the same power non-alums have...none.
UNDBIZ Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I always chuckle when people think "alums" have any kind of power to pick or fire coaches. Like on this site (some) alums think they should pick the new nickname for the Sioux! The only thing alums can do is say they are an alum... Alums have the same power non-alums have...none. Alums are tied to $$ for the school, so some of them do have a fair amount of influence. Not to say non-alum donors can't have the same influence. 1
siouxweet Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Alums are tied to $$ for the school, so some of them do have a fair amount of influence. Not to say non-alum donors can't have the same influence. I'm guessing some of mussman's buyout money is coming from alums as well.
UNDBIZ Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I'm guessing some of mussman's buyout money is coming from alums as well. They said it's ALL being paid with private funds. So that's donors and/or sponsors and most of those are alums.
fightingsioux4life Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Id say any of those people that may be grumbling at CC may have glanced over at how things have gone for DU....and found the greener side of the pasture as far as Owens is concerned. Id be shocked to see him go anywhere. Agreed.
Siouxman Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Here is an idle thought....What if CC hired Gwozdecky? Ponder that for a moment.
bigskyvikes Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I'm guessing some of mussman's buyout money is coming from alums as well. I don't doubt that, I bet UND went to that type of alum and asked for help. I'm not talking about multi-millionaire alums, because their money is their main strength. I'm talking average Joe alums that speak as if they have or should have power.
Siouxman Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I don't doubt that, I bet UND went to that type of alum and asked for help. I'm not talking about multi-millionaire alums, because their money is their main strength. I'm talking average Joe alums that speak as if they have or should have power. I don't think UND needed to go to the alumni. They spoke loud enough by not attending the games at the end of the season. The drop in attendance more than indicated the loss of ticket sales were more than the buyout cost.
TC_transplant Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I always chuckle when people think "alums" have any kind of power to pick or fire coaches. Like on this site (some) alums think they should pick the new nickname for the Sioux! The only thing alums can do is say they are an alum... Alums have the same power non-alums have...none. What's the name of the arena?
bigskyvikes Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 What's the name of the arena? Better keep reading...
jk Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 1999-00 Colorado College 18-18-3 .500 2000-01 Colorado College 27-13-1 .671 2001-02 Colorado College 27-13-3 .663 2002-03 Colorado College 30-7-5 .774 2003-04 Colorado College 20-16-3 .551 2004-05 Colorado College 31-9-3 .756 2005-06 Colorado College 24-16-2 .595 2006-07 Colorado College 18-17-4 .513 2007-08 Colorado College 28-12-1 .695 2008-09 Colorado College 16-12-10 .553 2009-10 Colorado College 19-17-3 .526 2010-11 Colorado College 23-19-3 .544 2011-12 Colorado College 18-16-2 .528 2012-13 Colorado College 18-19-5 .488 Totals (14 seasons) 317-204-48 .599 I think that's a pretty good track record, don't you? I don't really care, but just from a presentation standpoint, if I were arguing for him to be let go, I would bring out this table. To me it clearly shows waning performance. Almost all his best years were in the first half of his tenure, with almost all his poor years in the second half. The average performance has also gone on long enough now that it's not just an anomaly.
smokey the cat Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 1999-00 Colorado College 18-18-3 .500 2000-01 Colorado College 27-13-1 .671 2001-02 Colorado College 27-13-3 .663 2002-03 Colorado College 30-7-5 .774 2003-04 Colorado College 20-16-3 .551 2004-05 Colorado College 31-9-3 .756 2005-06 Colorado College 24-16-2 .595 2006-07 Colorado College 18-17-4 .513 2007-08 Colorado College 28-12-1 .695 2008-09 Colorado College 16-12-10 .553 2009-10 Colorado College 19-17-3 .526 2010-11 Colorado College 23-19-3 .544 2011-12 Colorado College 18-16-2 .528 2012-13 Colorado College 18-19-5 .488 Totals (14 seasons) 317-204-48 .599 I think that's a pretty good track record, don't you? Not a 600 percentile record though.
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 no coach on campus has done less with more than hak…..crappy boring game tonite…….again
willythekid Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 no coach on campus has done less with more than hak…..crappy boring game tonite…….again lot of truth here... I expected dumb penalties to be down tonight after last week's saturday night debacle. But no, tons of terrible, selfish penalties tonight again. Hak doesn't seem to have control of this team. Lots of talent for not much output...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 North Dakota where talented players go to get worse. Hakstol is to stubborn to change anything.
yzerman19 Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 I just trashed a major rant. Simply put, we have had the most talent run through our program without a championship... Toewser can win at the NHL level but not in college...wonder why... 1
The Sicatoka Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 We are playing NHL style in college rinks. That doesn't work. Something has to change.
Irish Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 We are playing NHL style in college rinks. That doesn't work. Something has to change. Ah, that's the question - can Hak change or is he addicted to chip chip dump dump chase chase cycle cycle? Even very sharp hockey minds can have a huge blind spot - seems everyone sees Hak's except him. I hope Brad Berry takes him aside and lets him know that there is anothe way to look at offense or it will be a long season. 2
yzerman19 Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 I have an idea...d to d to wing to center to wing to center... crazy how short passes and simple give and gos can make the game work in your favor...then...OMG...stop and start and go to the net hard with stick on the ice...and then...OMG...shoot, pass to the far post, to the trailer, or use your point...or OMG...if nothing, stop and pivot with your head up and find an open man moving to an open spot on the ice... From Pee Wee on, it is the same darn game... 2
sioux rube Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Hockey isn't that complicated. Talent or coaching missing right now. Maybe both. Time will tell.
cberkas Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 I'm just frustrated with these slow starts year after year, this trend is starting to get old. At some point a head coach of any team in any sport at any level figures it out. 10 years and you would think Hakstol would have figured it out with these slow starts. This team shouldn't be getting to the point where they're fighting to save the season in November. Hakstol should have this team playing like Minnesota is with all the talent that comes in each year. Some people said that Brad Berry was a good hire I'm not seeing it, the power play doesn't look it should be at 20% with countless times the team can't establish offensive possession. I can't say the defense has gotten better with Berry over Eades, team defense is ranked 44th in the nation (last in the NCHC) I remember when Eades was running the defense this team was blocking a ton of shots and the power play looked a lot better then it does now. I hope Hakstol get's the ship right sooner then later or it going to be a long season, the second half surge isn't guaranteed this team has to earn it.
gfhockey Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 all hail the dump and chase!!! dump and chase wins us titles??? oh wait....
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