Shawn-O Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Anyone predicting what would happen if sundogs is actually chosen I predict I won't buy tickets, merchandise, or make any future donations. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Anyone predicting what would happen if sundogs is actually chosen Unfortunately, I get the impression there will be a petition drive to go back to no nickname if anything other than North Dakota is chosen. Whether it's successful or not is another thing, but it'll certainly drag out the whole process. And if sundogs is chosen, I'll be tempted to sign the petition. It'll take one h*ll of a logo. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Anyone predicting what would happen if sundogs is actually chosen A riot on campus. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Because a lot of students are from Minnesota. agreed...seems like minny people/students love north stars (no malice involved just slightly biased), fargo people love sundogs (much malice involved with wanting the worst possible nickname), and north dakota students/people like roughriders??? Quote
jdub27 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Unfortunately, I get the impression there will be a petition drive to go back to no nickname if anything other than North Dakota is chosen. Whether it's successful or not is another thing, but it'll certainly drag out the whole process. Seriously? Who would they submit the petition to? UND? I can't imagine other than symbolism, it would carry any weight. Quote
ScottM Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Anyone predicting what would happen if sundogs is actually chosen People would whine, cry and vow to never send another dollar to UND. And then promptly forget about it the moment the first football is kicked, or the first puck is dropped. 2 Quote
IrishSiouxFan Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 North Dakota is the Rough Rider State not the North Star State. I can't believe people would not want to at least have a nickname that was relevant to the state's history because of a local high school having the same name. Honestly who cares (other than RRHS Alums)? And Sun Dogs? Come on man, that's the worst (actually Pride, Spirit, and Force would be worse). Quote
jimdahl Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 North Stars seems to be gaining steam. Not very many folks here like it though. I don't think that's quite right. When you look at the "top 15" poll here, of the votes for a new nickname (disregard "North Dakota" for now) North Stars was top 3 after only Roughriders and Cavalry. When it was cut to 7, eliminating Cavalry, North Stars is #2 behind only Roughriders. I'm certainly among those who think we can live with North Stars. Much as I don't think anyone outside the city of GF will know or care that Roughriders is the local high school's nickname, I don't think anyone outside of Minnesota will know or care that North Stars is Minnesota's motto. UND is like 2 miles from Minnesota, it's not surprising that each feel an affiliation with similar mottos/nicknames. Quote
Popular Post IrishSiouxFan Posted June 18, 2015 Popular Post Posted June 18, 2015 I don't think anyone outside of Minnesota will know or care that North Stars is Minnesota's motto. UND is like 2 miles from Minnesota, it's not surprising that each feel an affiliation with similar mottos/nicknames. We play way too many schools from that state for it not to be brought to their attention if we chose it. I for one would think it would be more embarrassing to steal a rival state's nickname over that of a local high school. 9 1 Quote
Shawn-O Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 People would whine, cry and vow to never send another dollar to UND. And then promptly forget about it the moment the first football is kicked, or the first puck is dropped. Perhaps. Not in my case. Doubt it will be Sundogs so likely won't come to that. Quote
scpa0305 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 I don't think that's quite right. When you look at the "top 15" poll here, of the votes for a new nickname (disregard "North Dakota" for now) North Stars was top 3 after only Roughriders and Cavalry. When it was cut to 7, eliminating Cavalry, North Stars is #2 behind only Roughriders. I'm certainly among those who think we can live with North Stars. Much as I don't think anyone outside the city of GF will know or care that Roughriders is the local high school's nickname, I don't think anyone outside of Minnesota will know or care that North Stars is Minnesota's motto. UND is like 2 miles from Minnesota, it's not surprising that each feel an affiliation with similar mottos/nicknames. Good point. Also, I agree with you 100% on your second paragraph. I personally think the North Stars name has a better ring to it, that's why I like it. Also, I don't think anyone outside of Twin City folks will even care....and we don't play them in many sports anymore. Give it 5 years and it would be a thing of the past. Even the smaller MN schools we do compete against, they all would have had the same chance to choose North Stars as a nickname. 1 1 Quote
Fetch Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 I love that it would pizz off many from Minn. 1 Quote
Shawn-O Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 I love that it would pizz off many from Minn. You mean half the alumni base? Quote
Hambone Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Anyone predicting what would happen if sundogs is actually chosen Personally, I would say "Well, that sucks" and then get on with life and follow UND sports the same as I do now. 2 Quote
Hambone Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 I will say with North Stars, the main reason I don't like it is I don't think it sounds very good since you have the word "North" twice. Just doesn't roll off the tongue right. I also think that the name has too much of a hockey connotation for me because of the former NHL team - just gives the impression that the name as picked moreso for hockey. 1 Quote
tnt Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Good point. Also, I agree with you 100% on your second paragraph. I personally think the North Stars name has a better ring to it, that's why I like it. Also, I don't think anyone outside of Twin City folks will even care....and we don't play them in many sports anymore. Give it 5 years and it would be a thing of the past. Even the smaller MN schools we do compete against, they all would have had the same chance to choose North Stars as a nickname. Anyone outside of Grand Forks won't care about Roughriders, and it is the state motto, and doesn't add any redundancy. Quote
scpa0305 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 You mean half the alumni base? It seems the MN alumni/current students are the largest backers Quote
scpa0305 Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 Anyone outside of Grand Forks won't care about Roughriders, and it is the state motto, and doesn't add any redundancy. Agreed, there is that redundancy, but it doesn't sound that bad. Quote
Hawk E Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 In the interest of accuracy TNT, the ND state motto is Liberty and union, now and forever, one and inseparable. Roughriders is simply a state nickname. Quote
ksixpack Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 This logo could be the best compromise for all of us... Quote
Snake Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 We play way too many schools from that state for it not to be brought to their attention if we chose it. I for one would think it would be more embarrassing to steal a rival state's nickname over that of a local high school. If we were the North Stars maybe we could get an invite to the mid-season college hockey tourney at the X named in our honor! Roll Ridas! 2 Quote
ksixpack Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 This logo may be a good compromise for all... 1 Quote
breakin face Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 This logo may be a good compromise for all... It also is already copyrighted and has been the subject of a lawsuit once before. http://icethetics.squarespace.com/blog/2010/7/12/a-history-of-logo-larceny.html?currentPage=2 1 Quote
ksixpack Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 The logo is just as important as the name and this logo is very good. I wasn't big on the Fighting Hawks name but this logo makes it acceptable. I think it could be a good compromise...it looks like the Ben Brien logo with a hawk face...it is also basically the same logo as the Chicago Black Hawks bird logo that is sometimes used; only difference is the color of the feathers. If you remember, our Indian head logo worn until the 90's was the exact same logo as The Black Hawks except for the color of the feathers so it also harkens back to that tradition and we are a hockey school so I like that too. Fighting Hawks is not a Native American name...no way the NCAA can have an issue with it. Another reason I like it: it will not make the logos in the Ralph look obsolete like rough riders or any other team logo would...this logo would actually be an extension of the Sioux logo just like the Black Hawks bird logo is an extension of their Indian head logo. All in all it is very cool looking and ties into our past nicely. Quote
ksixpack Posted June 18, 2015 Posted June 18, 2015 It also is already copyrighted and has been the subject of a lawsuit once before. Understand that yes this is a replica of the Black Hawks seldemly used bird logo but we can alter it slightly to make it our own...we got by with changing the colors of the feathers as we used the same Black Hawk Indian head on our jerseys until the early 90's so we could make this work...calling Ben Brien... Quote
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