FCS Playoffs

[jdub27]

I really think you need to rank 1-24 so that the 1st round matchups more clear as well and not regionalized. It wouldn't cause all that much more uproar than seeding 1-16. And why should the 16 seed get to play the worst team in the field just because they are a bus ride away and team #9 have to play a team that just missed being ranked for the same reason?

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

And why should the 16 seed get to play the worst team in the field just because they are a bus ride away and team #9 have to play a team that just missed being ranked for the same reason?

Because committee members love being "lobbied" for seeding preferences. 

Make it analytic and the "lobbying" (and any perks that may come along the way) goes away. 

 

[UNDBIZ]

Credit to Chaves.  Shame on the committee.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

Smoke

 

[farce poobah]

I hope this is yet another NCAA fiasco where UND getting the shaft results in a change in rules. 

[jdub27]

Worth noting that the NCAA still made more money off of Montana than they would have on UND. However, anyone who's still questioning the athletic department's willingness is just flat out wrong at this point. They put up more guaranteed money than anyone in the first round.

 

 

[Dustin]

48 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Credit to Chaves.  Shame on the committee.

So UND did indeed outbid Montana.  My proposed situation from earlier is actually rendered moot.  For shame...

[Und246]

Anybody who was on playoff selection committee should be immediately removed. Start over. 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

? 4 those in da know?

I'm thinking, the bid amount is figured into the NCAA proceeds formula they get out of the actually attendance ticket sales for that game? If the regular NCAA proceeds don't exceed the bid, then the home team also coughs up the difference?

Not thinking, the bid is paid on top of the regular NCAA formula revenues?

[The Sicatoka]

Lemme get this straight:

Montana bids $126,281 and gets home game against conference champion.
North Dakota bids $127,500 and gets sent on the road against a third-place team (like UND is a third-place team). 

And UND's bid was 3x Weber's.  

[UNDColorado]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Lemme get this straight:

Montana bids $126,281 and gets home game against conference champion.
North Dakota bids $127,500 and gets sent on the road against a third-place team (like UND is a third-place team). 

And UND's bid was 3x Weber's.  

Yep, UND got the shaft. I really think we win this game at home. 

[The Sicatoka]

10 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

Yep, UND got the shaft. 

I think more the "BOHICA" ... Bend Over, Here It Comes, Again. 

[Rebel_Sioux]

No system is perfect.  People complain about the Frozen 4 seeding and Final 4 seedings too. However this FCS process is clearly broken. The last team in shouldn't be able to bribe its way in and then get to host on top of that. 

[The Sicatoka]

1 minute ago, Rebel_Sioux said:

The last team in shouldn't be able to bribe its way in and then get to host on top of that. 

... yet here we are, or more correctly they, Montana, are. 

[SiouxHawkGuy]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Lemme get this straight:

Montana bids $126,281 and gets home game against conference champion.
North Dakota bids $127,500 and gets sent on the road against a third-place team (like UND is a third-place team). 

And UND's bid was 3x Weber's.  

And was sent to tent locker rooms in ‘19

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

And was sent to tent locker rooms in ‘19

BOHICA 

More reason why ...

[Sioux95]

8 hours ago, Und246 said:

Anybody who was on playoff selection committee should be immediately removed. Start over. 

It's never good to be the person behind a rule, or policy change that prevents screwing over other people. Good job NDSU AD. HE, AS THE MISSOURI VALLEY REP, HAD MORE ABILITY THAN ANYONE TO KEEP UND FROM GETTING SCREWED OVER. I ASSUME HE WAS IN FACT THE LEADING DRIVER OF UND GETTING THE SHAFT.

[rochsioux]

[The Sicatoka]

17 hours ago, farce poobah said:

I hope this is yet another NCAA fiasco where UND getting the shaft results in a change in rules. 

Anyone keeping the list of rules modified after they "negatively impacted" UND?

- the 2022 FCS seeding (high bid until it's not)
- off side reviews for goals (NCAA hockey regional) 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Anyone keeping the list of rules modified after they "negatively impacted" UND?

- the 2022 FCS seeding (high bid until it's not)
- off side reviews for goals (NCAA hockey regional) 

The very first rule was the unwritten human nature rule in 2006
Screw the U that sues the NCAA

I remember there was talk about this happening when we started the lawsuit over the Sioux name.

[tnt]

36 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Anyone keeping the list of rules modified after they "negatively impacted" UND?

- the 2022 FCS seeding (high bid until it's not)
- off side reviews for goals (NCAA hockey regional) 

Didn't they change the game times in the regionals because of the Michigan Covid fiasco, where UND had to play the late game as a number 1 seed, then had to play Duluth the next day coming off of the late game.  Not sure if the game time change just became flexible in the case of a forfeit, or what, but nevertheless it was changed in part because of our regional that year, but maybe they couldn't stand Motzko whining that they had to play Mankato coming off of the late game, and Minnesota was the top seed. 

[The Sicatoka]

3 minutes ago, tnt said:

Didn't they change the game times in the regionals because of the Michigan Covid fiasco, 

Yes, yes they did. 

... the list of rules modified after they "negatively impacted" UND ... 

- the 2022 FCS seeding (high bid until it's not)
- off side reviews for goals (NCAA hockey regional)
- hockey regional game times and adding the off day (the COVID fiasco)

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

9 hours ago, Sioux95 said:

It's never good to be the person behind a rule, or policy change that prevents screwing over other people. Good job NDSU AD. HE, AS THE MISSOURI VALLEY REP, HAD MORE ABILITY THAN ANYONE TO KEEP UND FROM GETTING SCREWED OVER. I ASSUME HE WAS IN FACT THE LEADING DRIVER OF UND GETTING THE SHAFT.

SU AD Larsen should of been so furious when this unprecedented reasoning kind of discussion started, creating a stop to such a bad decision.
UND should of called Matt out on how this went down. Maybe he tried? Some on committee have made public comments, let's hear something from Matt.
Matt keeping his mouth shut, STINKS.

I'd call this a rivalry builder implosion. This stinks of the kind of NCAA poop that used to happen in the 50's & 60's (see pic 19 posts back).

If Matt sat in his chair and chuckled to himself as sucking on his pen (no cigar), then we need to get this cat out of the bag.
Imagine the potential hype created by this.
Revealing this would be a huge team motivator on October  14, 2023 at the Hawks' Nest. 

[The Sicatoka]

Give Bill Chaves credit:

- he had the biggest bid of the 2022 first round
- he metered his public words after the brackets came out so to not burn bridges ... publicly

Seeing those wise and professional action, I strongly suspect Bill Chaves has had some strong and pointed private conversations with the appropriate persons (e.g. MVFC commissioner, the MVFC committee representative, for starters). 

[UNDBIZ]

A change that needs to come from this, at minimum, is the conference commissioner (or appointee) reps the conference, not the AD of 1 school.