Sandy

[Frozen4sioux]

On 4/2/2021 at 12:00 PM, jdub27 said:

You'll never convince me 2011 wasn't. UND was 2-1 against Duluth that year, outscoring them 11-5. ***************

played the game of his life to keep Duluth from having to face UND again.

We dont F%#&#<ing say that name.

[nodakvindy]

NCAAs are very much cyclical. UND is the only school to win titles in 6 decades, a remarkable model of consistency.  Since our first title, the longest drought we have ever had is 17 years. UND has also won its 8 titles with 5 different coaches, so the program has shown the ability to sustain under different leadership.

Other big programs

Michigan

Most titles (9), but majority are ancient.  Program was stuck on 7 for 32 years, then returned to take 2 of 3, and is now in 23 year drought. 

Denver

Among its 8 titles are multiple repeats, the one accomplishment UND lacks. Team of the 60s with four titles, but then a 35 year drought where Program also rarely challenged in the WCHA

Wisconsin

Big game hunters with 6 NCAAs, but stunningly only picked up 3 McNaughton Cups. Went 16 years between titles 5 and 6 and now in identical drought. 

Minnesota 

Wins NCAAs in clusters with a a repeat and 3 in 6 under Herb Brooks on their ledger.  Went 26 years before first title, a 23 year drought between 3 and 4 and now at 18 and counting. 

Boston U

Along with their city rivals, the kings of the East. Took 24 years to win first of 5 titles. After leading the 70s with 3 wins, took 17 years to get title 4, 14 more to get title 5, and now 12 and counting. Have also made only 2 Frozen Four appearances since 1997.

Boston College

Won second ever NCAA tournament in 1949. Heard Ranger style chants of "1949" from opposing fans for more than a half century until finally grabbing title number 2 on an ill-fated night in Albany.  Then grabbed 3 titles in 5 years from 2008 to 2012. Now nearly a decade removed from a title. 

 

Building and sustaining a program is what you want as a fan.  No one really comes close to North Dakota in that regard. Another NCAA title will happen, it's when not if. But if you can't also enjoy the Penroses and Frozen Face-offs  what's the point.

[Wilbur]

On 4/2/2021 at 12:56 PM, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Duluth also was moments away from first round elimination when Bowling Green had an own goal to tie it up late in the 3rd in 2018. Sandelin coaching had nothing to do with that.

I will never forget that one, was actually 2019.  BG had them all kinds of frustrated and then they get one of the biggest gifts I've ever seen in the NCAA tournament with about 3 minutes left.  After that they just rolled every one.  Probably the best team that year, but to say they didn't get a gift in PA regional wouldn't be accurate. 

[cberkas]

9 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

NCAAs are very much cyclical. UND is the only school to win titles in 6 decades, a remarkable model of consistency.  Since our first title, the longest drought we have ever had is 17 years. UND has also won its 8 titles with 5 different coaches, so the program has shown the ability to sustain under different leadership.

Other big programs

Michigan

Most titles (9), but majority are ancient.  Program was stuck on 7 for 32 years, then returned to take 2 of 3, and is now in 23 year drought. 

Denver

Among its 8 titles are multiple repeats, the one accomplishment UND lacks. Team of the 60s with four titles, but then a 35 year drought where Program also rarely challenged in the WCHA

Wisconsin

Big game hunters with 6 NCAAs, but stunningly only picked up 3 McNaughton Cups. Went 16 years between titles 5 and 6 and now in identical drought. 

Minnesota 

Wins NCAAs in clusters with a a repeat and 3 in 6 under Herb Brooks on their ledger.  Went 26 years before first title, a 23 year drought between 3 and 4 and now at 18 and counting. 

Boston U

Along with their city rivals, the kings of the East. Took 24 years to win first of 5 titles. After leading the 70s with 3 wins, took 17 years to get title 4, 14 more to get title 5, and now 12 and counting. Have also made only 2 Frozen Four appearances since 1997.

Boston College

Won second ever NCAA tournament in 1949. Heard Ranger style chants of "1949" for more than a half century until finally grabbing title number 2 on an ill-fated night in Albany.  Then grabbed 3 titles in 5 years from 2008 to 2012. Now nearly a decade removed from a title. 

 

Building and sustaining a program is what you want as a fan.  No one really comes close to North Dakota in that regard. Another NCAA title will happen, it's when not if. But if you can't also enjoy the Penroses and Frozen Face-off, what's the point.

If BC kept those gold helmets UND would have had back to back and they'd still have only one.

Changed to maroon helmets in 2001 and started winning titles

BU had the luckiest title win in 2009 over Miami

[crb1]

The Devil finally came to collect on good ole Sandy. He said no mas. 

[gfhockey]

8 hours ago, brianvf said:

Too soon? 

All in all, I would say that Berry had the far superior year with two trophies compared to Sandelin's zero.
He just got out-coached tonight...UMass coach had his players let UMD control play so that they could crush their souls in OT. 

I’d rather be in frozen four bud then watching the team that out coached me on tv

[Blackheart]

17 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

I’d rather be in frozen four bud then watching the team that out coached me on tv

How was UND outcoached in that game?

[Dustin]

7 hours ago, nodakvindy said:

NCAAs are very much cyclical. UND is the only school to win titles in 6 decades, a remarkable model of consistency.  Since our first title, the longest drought we have ever had is 17 years. UND has also won its 8 titles with 5 different coaches, so the program has shown the ability to sustain under different leadership.

Other big programs

Michigan

Most titles (9), but majority are ancient.  Program was stuck on 7 for 32 years, then returned to take 2 of 3, and is now in 23 year drought. 

Denver

Among its 8 titles are multiple repeats, the one accomplishment UND lacks. Team of the 60s with four titles, but then a 35 year drought where Program also rarely challenged in the WCHA

Wisconsin

Big game hunters with 6 NCAAs, but stunningly only picked up 3 McNaughton Cups. Went 16 years between titles 5 and 6 and now in identical drought. 

Minnesota 

Wins NCAAs in clusters with a a repeat and 3 in 6 under Herb Brooks on their ledger.  Went 26 years before first title, a 23 year drought between 3 and 4 and now at 18 and counting. 

Boston U

Along with their city rivals, the kings of the East. Took 24 years to win first of 5 titles. After leading the 70s with 3 wins, took 17 years to get title 4, 14 more to get title 5, and now 12 and counting. Have also made only 2 Frozen Four appearances since 1997.

Boston College

Won second ever NCAA tournament in 1949. Heard Ranger style chants of "1949" from opposing fans for more than a half century until finally grabbing title number 2 on an ill-fated night in Albany.  Then grabbed 3 titles in 5 years from 2008 to 2012. Now nearly a decade removed from a title. 

 

Building and sustaining a program is what you want as a fan.  No one really comes close to North Dakota in that regard. Another NCAA title will happen, it's when not if. But if you can't also enjoy the Penroses and Frozen Face-offs  what's the point.

When UND was in their 16 year title "drought," I had to remind myself of these very statistics.  Even the most storied programs go long stretches without national titles. What made things so painful is how close we were during those 16 years without getting over the hump.  But it definitely made the '16 title very very sweet.  Of college hockey's "Big 7,"  UND's longest title drought (17 years) is the second shortest (only Wisconsin's is shorter, but we'll see for how long...)

[gfhockey]

9 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

How was UND outcoached in that game?

Sandy turned it on in the OT periods 

[skateshattrick]

Just now, gfhockey said:

Sandy turned it on in the OT periods 

Why don't you take 5 seconds and tell us everything that you know about hockey. 

[crb1]

8 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Sandy turned it on in the OT periods 

I am sorry but you are just flat out wrong. UND had the better play through most of the OT's and almost buried it on a number of occasions A couple of posts and a puck that flopped over the goalie and landed on top of the net inches from falling in. UMD just got the lucky bounce but to say they turned it on in OT is just not living in reality.

[iramurphy]

20 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

I’d rather be in frozen four bud then watching the team that out coached me on tv

Your bs gets a bit old. You wanted to get rid of Hakstol. You criticize Berry. What do you know about coaching or what it takes to become a champion?  Had UND played UMass, missing those key players, I’m pretty sure the first person calling for a coaching change would have been you. Some of the people actually believe you and something called the GOBC could influence coaching decisions anymore than any of the rest of us. Sandy is an excellent coach. His players didn’t get the job done. Berry and Hakstol have proved to be excellent coaches. They and Sandy have been recognized as outstanding coaches by their players, peers, and the NHL community. I dare say winning an NCAA championship in hockey is as difficult if not the most difficult as any sport. Stuff happens. For those whose lives are dependent on the success or failure of a sports team I can’t help that. However, our program has remained as one of the premier programs in the nation for 40 yrs. A big part of that is our outstanding coaches from Gino to Blais to Hak and now Berry. It is really that simple. 

[UNDColorado]

bUt sAndY iS GoDS gIFt tO hOcKeY 

[sioux rube]

24 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Sandy turned it on in the OT periods 

UND dominated overtime. What the hell were you watching? Of course the game ended at 12:30 in the morning I’m sure you were hammered by then 

[Blackheart]

24 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Sandy turned it on in the OT periods 

There’s the stupid.

[Dustin]

7 hours ago, cberkas said:

Minnesota 

Wins NCAAs in clusters with a a repeat and 3 in 6 under Herb Brooks on their ledger.  Went 26 years before first title, a 23 year drought between 3 and 4 and now at 18 and counting. 

Minnesota in the '80s and '90s was like UND in the '00s and early '10s - chance after chance to bring home a title but never over the hump.

The one thing that often gets forgotten by demanding fan bases - it's hard to win a championship!

[Siouxphan27]

23 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Sandy turned it on in the OT periods 

But he couldn’t beat a short handed UMass team in overtime. He definitely should be fired. Right?

[UNDColorado]

1 minute ago, sioux rube said:

UND dominated overtime. What the hell were you watching 

He was blacked out drunk by OT.

[sioux rube]

Just now, UNDColorado said:

He was blacked out drunk by OT.

Yeah I added that he was probably hammered by then 

[The Sicatoka]

27 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Sandy turned it on in the OT periods 

He also made sure his goalie was conditioned to cramp up in 4OT and get replaced so he wouldn't be slow down to the butterfly in 5OT. 

[The Sicatoka]

Folks, that's why I look at those conference banners more than most. 

The NCAA tournament is a harsh battle.

Conference regular season battles is the war. 

[Siouxphan27]

2 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

He was blacked out drunk by OT.

You spelled ‘noon’ wrong. 

[gfhockey]

I think most people would agree nattys are more important then a conny

 

sandy built a program from nothing. Berry Hak inherited a crown jewel 

[petey23]

If UND had lost in the same manner as UMD did last night we would have people on here debating

A. Is it Berry's fault for having the team take their foot off the gas after the 2nd period and try and ride the game out for the 2-1 win

or

B. Is it Berry's fault for not skating 4 lines all night so the team got gassed and didn't have enough in the tank in the 3rd period and overtime.

[siouxweet]

6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Folks, that's why I look at those conference banners more than most. 

The NCAA tournament is a harsh battle.

Conference regular season battles is the war. 

It was either Lucia or Gwoz that once said it is harder to win the regular season title and conference tournament championship than the NCAA title.