siouxkid12 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 10:50 AM, Siouxphan27 said: Yeah. On second thought Berry should probably be fired for that 5OT loss against a team that didn't have to play the night before. I am not saying Berry should get fired. I think he and his staff are doing an okay job but the honeymoon phase is over for him and lets look at what he's done since he won his natty. 1. 2016/2017 - lost in the 1st round of the national tournament in Fargo 2. 2017/2018 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 3. 2018/2019 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 4 - 2019/2020 - Covid 5. 2020/2021 - Lost in the Regional Final. I am sick of hearing that excuse that UMD got the bye and that is why they won. That is not the reason they lost, UND had every opportunity to win but didn't score for close to a 100 minutes of hockey, that does not cut it when it comes time to the tournament. No one gave Hak a pass and Berry is not going to get one either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: I am not saying Berry should get fired. I think he and his staff are doing an okay job but the honeymoon phase is over for him and lets look at what he's done since he won his natty. 1. 2016/2017 - lost in the 1st round of the national tournament in Fargo 2. 2017/2018 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 3. 2018/2019 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 4 - 2019/2020 - Covid 5. 2020/2021 - Lost in the Regional Final. I am sick of hearing that excuse that UMD got the bye and that is why they won. That is not the reason they lost, UND had every opportunity to win but didn't score for close to a 100 minutes of hockey, that does not cut it when it comes time to the tournament. No one gave Hak a pass and Berry is not going to get one either. Yeah, fatigue couldn't have been a factor, considering the goalie that only played in that game couldn't make it through the game. When you are needing IV's in between overtime periods, I think fatigue might be a factor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Langster019 Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 31 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: I am not saying Berry should get fired. I think he and his staff are doing an okay job but the honeymoon phase is over for him and lets look at what he's done since he won his natty. 1. 2016/2017 - lost in the 1st round of the national tournament in Fargo 2. 2017/2018 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 3. 2018/2019 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 4 - 2019/2020 - Covid 5. 2020/2021 - Lost in the Regional Final. I am sick of hearing that excuse that UMD got the bye and that is why they won. That is not the reason they lost, UND had every opportunity to win but didn't score for close to a 100 minutes of hockey, that does not cut it when it comes time to the tournament. No one gave Hak a pass and Berry is not going to get one either. I understand what you’re saying but if you base successful years solely on post season you won’t find a coach that will stick around per those standards. Penrose and Faceoff titles have to account for something here in the last two years. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frozen4sioux Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, siouxkid12 said: I am not saying Berry should get fired. I think he and his staff are doing an okay job but the honeymoon phase is over for him and lets look at what he's done since he won his natty. 1. 2016/2017 - lost in the 1st round of the national tournament in Fargo 2. 2017/2018 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 3. 2018/2019 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 4 - 2019/2020 - Covid 5. 2020/2021 - Lost in the Regional Final. I am sick of hearing that excuse that UMD got the bye and that is why they won. That is not the reason they lost, UND had every opportunity to win but didn't score for close to a 100 minutes of hockey, that does not cut it when it comes time to the tournament. No one gave Hak a pass and Berry is not going to get one either. Und was the BEST team in college hockey for the last 48+ months... Lost a 5OT game.... Hes fine. Next year will be a big test for the coaches. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, tnt said: Yeah, fatigue couldn't have been a factor, considering the goalie that only played in that game couldn't make it through the game. When you are needing IV's in between overtime periods, I think fatigue might be a factor. you're using OT as an excuse for not scoring in the first 58 min, they were not fatigued then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: Und was the BEST team in college hockey for the last 48+ months... Lost a 5OT game.... Hes fine. Next year will be a big test for the coaches. How can you say that UND was the best team in college hockey the past 4 years when I just laid it out the last 4 years? They don't even come close to being the best team in the last 4 years. I never said Berry should get fired but he needs to find out what worked when he won it in 2016, when they could score at will. With tournaments being 1 and done, you need to bring your A game every night (no matter the circumstances) and the past 4 years UND hasn't brought their A game every night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 So do you guys value a conny more then a natty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, Langster019 said: I understand what you’re saying but if you base successful years solely on post season you won’t find a coach that will stick around per those standards. Penrose and Faceoff titles have to account for something here in the last two years. I'm not saying Berry is a terrible coach by any means and yes regular and postseason titles do count for something but they have to figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: How can you say that UND was the best team in college hockey the past 4 years when I just laid it out the last 4 years? They don't even come close to being the best team in the last 4 years. I never said Berry should get fired but he needs to find out what worked when he won it in 2016, when they could score at will. With tournaments being 1 and done, you need to bring your A game every night (no matter the circumstances) and the past 4 years UND hasn't brought their A game every night. He said they were the best team for the last 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 30 minutes ago, gfhockey said: So do you guys value a conny more then a natty? For !@#$ sakes man, nobody ever said that. Again, we lost in a 5 OT game. What is your solution here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langster019 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 52 minutes ago, gfhockey said: So do you guys value a conny more then a natty? No but it’s still hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langster019 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 59 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: How can you say that UND was the best team in college hockey the past 4 years when I just laid it out the last 4 years? They don't even come close to being the best team in the last 4 years. I never said Berry should get fired but he needs to find out what worked when he won it in 2016, when they could score at will. With tournaments being 1 and done, you need to bring your A game every night (no matter the circumstances) and the past 4 years UND hasn't brought their A game every night. 31 minutes ago, franchise said: He said they were the best team for the last 2 years I think there was math confusion. He probably meant 24 months, not 48. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusinessSiouxt Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Well, we’re back to ‘fire Berry’ but at least we’re not arguing over who’s net it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 hours ago, siouxkid12 said: I am not saying Berry should get fired. I think he and his staff are doing an okay job but the honeymoon phase is over for him and lets look at what he's done since he won his natty. 1. 2016/2017 - lost in the 1st round of the national tournament in Fargo 2. 2017/2018 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 3. 2018/2019 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 4 - 2019/2020 - Covid 5. 2020/2021 - Lost in the Regional Final. I am sick of hearing that excuse that UMD got the bye and that is why they won. That is not the reason they lost, UND had every opportunity to win but didn't score for close to a 100 minutes of hockey, that does not cut it when it comes time to the tournament. No one gave Hak a pass and Berry is not going to get one either. Well, you got your wish, a lot of the guys that didn't score aren't coming back, so I suppose you are very happy now that Pinto, Kawaguchi, Adams, Mismash, JBD, Kiersted are gone because they just couldn't cut it in the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rick Posted April 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 hours ago, siouxkid12 said: I am not saying Berry should get fired. I think he and his staff are doing an okay job but the honeymoon phase is over for him and lets look at what he's done since he won his natty. 1. 2016/2017 - lost in the 1st round of the national tournament in Fargo 2. 2017/2018 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 3. 2018/2019 - Failed to make the NCAA Tournament 4 - 2019/2020 - Covid 5. 2020/2021 - Lost in the Regional Final. I am sick of hearing that excuse that UMD got the bye and that is why they won. That is not the reason they lost, UND had every opportunity to win but didn't score for close to a 100 minutes of hockey, that does not cut it when it comes time to the tournament. No one gave Hak a pass and Berry is not going to get one either. Ahh, someone trying to compete with gf hockey for dumbest post of the year. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Maybe I’m a realist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Rick said: Ahh, someone trying to compete with gf hockey for dumbest post of the year. how is that a dumb post? are you afraid of facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, tnt said: Well, you got your wish, a lot of the guys that didn't score aren't coming back, so I suppose you are very happy now that Pinto, Kawaguchi, Adams, Mismash, JBD, Kiersted are gone because they just couldn't cut it in the tournament. Never did I wish they would leave. However, it was going to be a given that Kawaguchi, adams, kiersted and mismash were going to leave because they were seniors. Pinto is a 32nd overall pick, he wasn't going to stay (especially since they tried to get him to leave last year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, franchise said: He said they were the best team for the last 2 years math must not be your strong point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: Never did I wish they would leave. However, it was going to be a given that Kawaguchi, adams, kiersted and mismash were going to leave because they were seniors. Pinto is a 32nd overall pick, he wasn't going to stay (especially since they tried to get him to leave last year). They played well enough to win by the way they controlled the play, but ultimately it is up to the players to snipe to score goals, so if you say 100 minutes to score doesn't cut it, you are putting the onus on those that had the ability to change that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 1:52 PM, siouxkid12 said: math must not be your strong point... Apparently it's not. I also made the mistake in assuming you meant 24 months, since they clearly weren't the best team for the last 48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crb1 Posted April 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2021 This thread has probably run its course and should be buried like Sandy’s and UNDs seasons. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Barn Guy at Home Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/9/2021 at 10:50 AM, Siouxphan27 said: Yeah. On second thought Berry should probably be fired for that 5OT loss against a team that didn't have to play the night before. I am assuming that you are being sarcastic in this comment, right? Berry is doing a great job and people that are not actively involved with coaching the program can sure have their own opinions, but they really don't matter to the team or staff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Was Sandy ever considered for the HC at UND? like did he lose out to Hak or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted April 15, 2021 Author Share Posted April 15, 2021 29 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: Was Sandy ever considered for the HC at UND? like did he lose out to Hak or something? Blais recommend hak get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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