Redneksioux Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Bison Dan said: And what would President rednek do differently? Specifically! I wouldn’t encourage less testing in order to make the count look lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxForever Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: I wouldn’t encourage less testing in order to make the count look lower. @Redneksioux But skewing testing/tested data and fabricated results is totally ok in your book? You're very special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Redneksioux said: You think trump will blame the election loss on Kung flu instead of his handling of it? Let’s revisit March and have Trump shut down the country and impose a 24 hour curfew and institute martial law to keep people “safer at home.” I am wondering what Pelosi, Schumer, & co’s take on that would have been... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petey23 Posted June 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 10:45 AM, Goon said: Militant Antifa group policing CHOP or CHAZ It's all in a name. Antifa likes to call themselves an Anti Fascist "organization" which is the height of hypocrisy or just being completely unaware to the fact that they are in fact actually a group of Fascists. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Let’s revisit March and have Trump shut down the country and impose a 24 hour curfew and institute martial law to keep people “safer at home.” I am wondering what Pelosi, Schumer, & co’s take on that would have been... They would have cited the 10th Amendment and individual states rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 13 hours ago, SiouxScore said: Read this as part of an article on 24/7 sports thought it was a pretty good breakdown. Need more of this type of thing in mainstream media instead of them freaking out about how can their be a season every time a school has athletes test positive. https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/board/120/Contents/the-sunday-bucket-wants-bama-148396150/ Is anyone really surprised that a large number of athletes are asymptomatic but testing positive for COVID as they get back to campuses across America? Is this really a shock to anyone? It’s been all over the sports headlines recently: NHL players in Arizona (including superstar Austin Matthews) tested positive, Kansas State temporarily closed down workouts, a ton of Clemson and LSU players tested positive and virtually all of them are asymptomatic. This is what happens when we actually test for it, folks. Do you know how many Americans were tested for COVID last week alone? THREE AND A HALF MILLION. Back when this started, we had less than a million tests per week for the first month. According to the CDC, every week testing has skyrocketed and the % positive rates has dipped from 20% or so down to about 5%. Again, this is the widespread testing we’ve been talking about. It will only get more widespread as soon as tests don’t feature an 8 inch Q-Tip poking your brain and casual testers can just get a saliva swab. And all of these athletes previously had zero reason to get tested: They were young and healthy and going about their business like it was no big deal. I’m not surprised that initial testing found a fair number of positive cases. Clemson tested like 200 people and about a dozen ended up positive. That’s approximately 5%, directly in line with last week’s national average. Once you get them all back into a fairly controlled environment, that number among athletes should drop too. But here’s the kicker: The risk inherent to this isn’t to the athletes themselves. In the entire country, the number of COVID deaths for the college bracket (the CDC statistic I saw had it from ages 15-24) is 125 total deaths. Out of 103,000. That’s 0.01% of the total! It’s the coaches in their 50s and 60s, it’s the family members, support staff, Jerry Emig, etc that these tests are protecting. Of the COVID deaths in America, 96% are in people ages 45 and older. 91% are ages 55 and older. It’s not the athletes here that we’re really worried about. So let’s keep calm when we see headlines like “LSU PROGRAM QUARANTINES 25!” or “NHL FACILITIES TEMPORARILY CLOSE DUE TO CORONAVIRUS!” This level of testing will stop the localized spread within the team and as testing becomes more common nationally it is going to stop the spread in general. Seriously, let’s get that saliva test active here, folks. I’m not getting a Q-Tip poked into my brain unless I have to. We’re going to have sports and we’re going to have positive COVID tests. By the way, the two week quarantine is a thing of the past for these athletes: Now that you can test people on the daily, you’re going to see people back as quick as a day or two later because their testing will tell when they’ve officially ‘recovered’ from it. I bet you most teams test their players once a week this season, likely on a Sunday or Monday, so that anyone positive can have the chance to recover in time for the next week’s game. I read your post yesterday and it made my whole day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 The daily death count has become very low for covid. Some says its had to mutate to survive and isnt as deadly as before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, Cratter said: The daily death count has become very low for covid. Some says its had to mutate to survive and isnt as deadly as before. Matteo Bassetti, an infectious disease specialist in Italy, is quoted as saying he thinks the virus could probably go away completely without a vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 21 hours ago, UNDlaw80 said: Read each of the Confederate state’s Ordinance of Secession and Declarations of Causes. Slavery, Lincoln's election, the economy, and state rights are front and center....but they're all tied together by slavery. So, the issues were multifaceted as you kindly listed off. Complex problems seldom have simple origins. Usually it is many disparate issues all threading together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 9 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: So, the issues were multifaceted as you kindly listed off. Complex problems seldom have simple origins. Usually it is many disparate issues all threading together. ? I thought the Civil War was Trump’s fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynato Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 9 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: So, the issues were multifaceted as you kindly listed off. Complex problems seldom have simple origins. Usually it is many disparate issues all threading together. The state declarations of secession from the federal union and joining of the confederacy thought that the abolishing of slavery was unconstitutional. Only one state's declaration of included taxes/tariffs, which were taxes on owning slaves (property). Of the declarations that mentioned general rights, the general right they didn't want to be taken away by the federal government was right to own slaves (property). Of the states that mentioned political party, they directly opposed Lincolns republican party as he ran an anti-slavery platform, restricting free (white) enterprise. Here is what Texas officially declared in their secession from the federal union. To me, their motivations for secession are pretty clear. We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke1 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, dynato said: The state declarations of secession from the federal union and joining of the confederacy thought that the abolishing of slavery was unconstitutional. Only one state's declaration of included taxes/tariffs, which were taxes on owning slaves (property). Of the declarations that mentioned general rights, the general right they didn't want to be taken away by the federal government was right to own slaves (property). Of the states that mentioned political party, they directly opposed Lincolns republican party as he ran an anti-slavery platform, restricting free (white) enterprise. Here is what Texas officially declared in their secession from the federal union. To me, their motivations for secession are pretty clear. We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states Well, there you go with facts. That's not going to sit well with this lot. I know UND had a real crappy history department, but this has been embarrassing to say the least. Anyone who actually believes that the Civil War wasn't about slavery isn't worth the time or effort for any debate. They are deranged. I've been reading this thread and laughing all the way through it. For a bunch of hockey fans, you make horrible pubic health officials. Wear your damn masks and shut up. My God, you act like someone is pinning the Star of David on your clothes. Get over yourselves. You're not losing your "liberty" or "freedom". You're only losing your narcissism. That would be a good thing. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 hours ago, Cratter said: The daily death count has become very low for covid. Some says its had to mutate to survive and isnt as deadly as before. Also helps that the "treatment" is improving. Don't ventilate (whoops), lie in prone position, get oxygen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: Well, there you go with facts. That's not going to sit well with this lot. I know UND had a real crappy history department, but this has been embarrassing to say the least. Anyone who actually believes that the Civil War wasn't about slavery isn't worth the time or effort for any debate. They are deranged. I've been reading this thread and laughing all the way through it. For a bunch of hockey fans, you make horrible pubic health officials. Wear your damn masks and shut up. My God, you act like someone is pinning the Star of David on your clothes. Get over yourselves. You're not losing your "liberty" or "freedom". You're only losing your narcissism. That would be a good thing. . You best hold your derision for those people that are ignorant enough to be tearing down statues of people that helped free the country from slavery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Horowitz: All the ways the media is misleading you about a record spike in Florida Quote During the peak of the virus in April, Miami-Dade County found through a serology test that the likely number of people infected was 16.5 times higher than the number of known cases. We also now know that an unknown percentage of people who get the virus, particularly those who don’t present symptoms, don’t even produce antibodies because their bodies ward off the virus with T cells. It’s therefore not surprising, as testing becomes universal in doctors’ offices, hospitals, workplaces, and particularly in hot spots such as prisons, migrant labor, nursing homes, and meatpacking plants, that even if the virus is generally abating, we will discover more cases than even during the peak, especially in states that had a mild peak. Also, with the national obsession with testing, officials are now counting multiple positive tests for one patient as well as antibody tests that have all become more widespread in the past month. We never knew how many cases really existed during the peak weeks, because we were only testing those with serious cases, usually older and sicker people. Therefore, there is no way to track the true growth or decline of positive cases in a given state because we don’t have a fully transparent starting point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Hayduke1 said: Well, there you go with facts. That's not going to sit well with this lot. I know UND had a real crappy history department, but this has been embarrassing to say the least. Anyone who actually believes that the Civil War wasn't about slavery isn't worth the time or effort for any debate. They are deranged. I've been reading this thread and laughing all the way through it. For a bunch of hockey fans, you make horrible pubic health officials. Wear your damn masks and shut up. My God, you act like someone is pinning the Star of David on your clothes. Get over yourselves. You're not losing your "liberty" or "freedom". You're only losing your narcissism. That would be a good thing. . not only should this clown be kicked off here but why is mikejm upvoting this garbage? nice one mikey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Hayduke1 said: Well, there you go with facts. That's not going to sit well with this lot. I know UND had a real crappy history department, but this has been embarrassing to say the least. Anyone who actually believes that the Civil War wasn't about slavery isn't worth the time or effort for any debate. They are deranged. I've been reading this thread and laughing all the way through it. For a bunch of hockey fans, you make horrible pubic health officials. Wear your damn masks and shut up. My God, you act like someone is pinning the Star of David on your clothes. Get over yourselves. You're not losing your "liberty" or "freedom". You're only losing your narcissism. That would be a good thing. . lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Wear your mask....ialto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prison_Mike Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” “And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'” ~ George Orwell "1984" (written 1948) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEdway Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/21/2020 at 11:51 PM, UNDlaw80 said: Read each of the Confederate state’s Ordinance of Secession and Declarations of Causes. Slavery, Lincoln's election, the economy, and state rights are front and center....but they're all tied together by slavery. Interestingly, the Confederacy opposed state’s rights. The Southern States did not approve of Northern ones taking individual steps to abolish slavery, or slavery being prohibited in non-state territories. For obvious reasons the tipping point was the North's refusal to enforce the Fugitive Slave Act. And when Lincoln was elected on a platform to keep slavery out of the territories, well, it was game on. The Confederacy wasn't fighting for innate state rights as much as they were PO'd that the Union's position on slavery was changing.....and it adversely affected the southern economy, way of life, etc. Everything stemmed from slavery. It's clear as day from the Confederate Articles of Secession. And here we are still waiving the Confederate flag on government property; the flag of an entity who started a war that killed 600,000 for the purpose of subjugating an entire race of people. What a dumb ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Hayduke1 said: Well, there you go with facts. That's not going to sit well with this lot. I know UND had a real crappy history department, but this has been embarrassing to say the least. Anyone who actually believes that the Civil War wasn't about slavery isn't worth the time or effort for any debate. They are deranged. I've been reading this thread and laughing all the way through it. For a bunch of hockey fans, you make horrible pubic health officials. Wear your damn masks and shut up. My God, you act like someone is pinning the Star of David on your clothes. Get over yourselves. You're not losing your "liberty" or "freedom". You're only losing your narcissism. That would be a good thing. . UND history department? Them thar elitists with their readin’ and learnin’? Ppppffff Y'all come down to the Southern NASCAR race if you wanna see some real Johnny Reb truth. Oh wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: UND history department? Them thar elitists with their readin’ and learnin’? Ppppffff Y'all come down to the Southern NASCAR race if you wanna see some real Johnny Reb truth. Oh wait.... I heard about that broke-off garage rope...I mean noose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 53 minutes ago, UND1983 said: I heard about that broke-off garage rope...I mean noose. Since NASCAR and the FBI came out that Wallace was not a target of a hate crime UNDlaw80 can go back to the "Nazi" narrative. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 If ropes are labeled as snowflake triggers and end up being banned, how are all those statues going to get pulled down? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Since NASCAR and the FBI came out that Wallace was not a target of a hate crime UNDlaw80 can go back to the "Nazi" narrative. how have they classified this then...hoax or hate crime or not sure yet...was it the part of the pull down for the door? any cameras around? didn't know the fbi was involved edit...that was fast...what'ya know a rope in a garage to tie something down that's been there for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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