Popular Post NoiseInsideMyHead Posted April 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, bison73 said: The other day they were complaining they were running out of money. So they waste it on this? Not to mention that when this thing is all over they have to dig it out. That's a hybrid bulldozer...runs on a combination of Tesla batteries and skateboarder tears. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 7 hours ago, iramurphy said: Well, we went went for an hour or two before someone felt the need to inject politics. I am surprised it took that long. Hang in there Ira. I really enjoy learning from what you and Keikla have to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynato Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 https://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/health/positive-virus-tests-mount-after-north-dakota-plant-outbreak/article_f11a5390-de62-58b8-b3bc-efce9f4d36bd.html Nearly 900 total people work at LM Windpower. 424 tests were administered to infected workers and their family members. 110 positive cases were found. 52 tests do not have results. Only 1 hospitalized so far. A second mass testing event will be held next week in GF. Burgum is quoted saying he doesn't think an outbreak could have been prevented because it is a “highly contagious disease that is spread very easily" and clusters have popped up in places that have taken extreme precautions, such as nursing homes. The plant will remain closed for 14 days, employees will still be paid, and are told to remain at home to self quarantine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, dynato said: https://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/health/positive-virus-tests-mount-after-north-dakota-plant-outbreak/article_f11a5390-de62-58b8-b3bc-efce9f4d36bd.html Nearly 900 total people work at LM Windpower. 424 tests were administered to infected workers and their family members. 110 positive cases were found. 52 tests do not have results. Only 1 hospitalized so far. A second mass testing event will be held next week in GF. Burgum is quoted saying he doesn't think an outbreak could have been prevented because it is a “highly contagious disease that is spread very easily" and clusters have popped up in places that have taken extreme precautions, such as nursing homes. The plant will remain closed for 14 days, employees will still be paid, and are told to remain at home to self quarantine. Can anyone that worked there provide some insight as to what protective measures were or were not in place? What was done right and what was done wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynato Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, Redneksioux said: Can anyone that worked there provide some insight as to what protective measures were or were not in place? What was done right and what was done wrong? I'd suggest you drop the conversation on what additional preventative measures current industries can take. Most are likely doing as much as they can without financially ruining themselves or laying off people. This virus has been found to be asymptomatic the first few days. It is also highly contagious, even when showing no symptoms. Meaning it spreads to many people before it is known to even be an issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 What's next? Theyll start putting sand in kids playgrounds too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Cratter said: What's next? Theyll start putting sand in kids playgrounds too? Well that would be nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 2 hours ago, dynato said: I'd suggest you drop the conversation on what additional preventative measures current industries can take. Most are likely doing as much as they can without financially ruining themselves or laying off people. This virus has been found to be asymptomatic the first few days. It is also highly contagious, even when showing no symptoms. Meaning it spreads to many people before it is known to even be an issue. Exactly. His/her posts are devoid from reality. But hey I guess if everyone was able to permanently stay at home in a cocoon of bubble wrap, maybe every single outbreak could be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 I think it is a valid point when employees are expressing concern about the protection policies in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, dynato said: I'd suggest you drop the conversation on what additional preventative measures current industries can take. Most are likely doing as much as they can without financially ruining themselves or laying off people. This virus has been found to be asymptomatic the first few days. It is also highly contagious, even when showing no symptoms. Meaning it spreads to many people before it is known to even be an issue. Hey shh nothing to see here. With 900 employees we will eventually hear some stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 The sad fact of the matter is OSHA issued only 'guidance suggestions' on how to keep workers safe from the Coronavirus. No new legal obligations exist for employers. That said, it doesn't let employers off the hook for basic negligence. I have no idea about ND state law. Switching topics, it will be interesting, a few weeks from now, to assess the extent to which 'shutting things down' helped keep Covid within the confines of this workplace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 In one Massachusetts city, about one-third of randomly tested people tested posiive for Coronavirus antibodies. In a city with a 2% reported case rate, that's 16-1 ratio. Many cautions apply of course: the test hasn't been FDA approved (but it was good enough for Mass General); these were people out-and-about, it sounds like (strictly sheltering in place population is probably lower prevalance, etc). https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/17/business/nearly-third-200-blood-samples-taken-chelsea-show-exposure-coronavirus/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 You test everyone is GF >10,000 plus probably have had it or currently do. I'm shocked by how people are acting shocked a bunch of tests came back positive. More tests = higher numbers. The huge increase just happened to correspond with Grand Forks first drive up testing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 According to CDC.gov from 2/1 thru 4/11 there have been 1169 deaths that were recorded as COVID-19 only for the ages of 54 and younger. COVID plus pneumonia deaths are another 449. So that's 1618 total COVID related deaths 54 and younger. That age group makes up 260M+ people in this country. Those people also make up a vast majority of our workforce. BTW the same age group, 54 and under, during same time frame above recorded 141009 deaths from all causes. 2x as many children 4 and under died from all causes compared to the COVID total in the 54 and younger group during that time. The CDC does note lag in data received and recorded but does take into "presumed" COVID deaths via ICD-10 coding in the numbers above. I also fully understand these numbers are not to the day, or minute in real time. When one hears some continually parroting "save lives", which has been the drumbeat from both sides from the beginning, and you see numbers published by the CDC like this, albeit just thru 4/11, it make one wonder WTF is actually going on in our county when you look at the total picture and what the end game is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: According to CDC.gov from 2/1 thru 4/11 there have been 1169 deaths that were recorded as COVID-19 only for the ages of 54 and younger. COVID plus pneumonia deaths are another 449. So that's 1618 total COVID related deaths 54 and younger. That age group makes up 260M+ people in this country. Those people also make up a vast majority of our workforce. BTW the same age group, 54 and under, during same time frame above recorded 141009 deaths from all causes. 2x as many children 4 and under died from all causes compared to the COVID total in the 54 and younger group during that time. The CDC does note lag in data received and recorded but does take into "presumed" COVID deaths via ICD-10 coding in the numbers above. I also fully understand these numbers are not to the day, or minute in real time. When one hears some continually parroting "save lives", which has been the drumbeat from both sides from the beginning, and you see numbers published by the CDC like this, albeit just thru 4/11, it make one wonder WTF is actually going on in our county when you look at the total picture and what the end game is. If covid19 is such a minor blip when you look at the big picture, how can you explain the worldwide shortage on ppe and certain meds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planetearth Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Supply and demand does not equal use. Toilet paper is also scarce and it’s not because of an uptick in #2’s. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: If covid19 is such a minor blip when you look at the big picture, how can you explain the worldwide shortage on ppe and certain meds? Simple. It’s Trump's fault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nodak78 Posted April 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2020 WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME BOAT ... I heard that we are all in the same boat, but it's not like that. We are in the same storm, but not in the same boat. Your ship could be shipwrecked and mine might not be. Or vice versa. For some, quarantine is optimal. A moment of reflection, of re-connection, easy in flip flops, with a cocktail or coffee. For others, this is a desperate financial & family crisis. For some that live alone they're facing endless loneliness. While for others it is peace, rest & time with their mother, father, sons & daughters. With the $600 weekly increase in unemployment some are bringing in more money to their households than they were working. Others are working more hours for less money due to pay cuts or loss in sales. Some families of 4 just received $3400 from the stimulus while other families of 4 saw $0. Some were concerned about getting a certain candy for Easter while others were concerned if there would be enough bread, milk and eggs for the weekend. Some want to go back to work because they don't qualify for unemployment and are running out of money. Others want to kill those who break the quarantine. Some are home spending 2-3 hours/day helping their child with online schooling while others are spending 2-3 hours/day to educate their children on top of a 10-12 hour workday. Some have experienced the near death of the virus, some have already lost someone from it and some are not sure if their loved ones are going to make it. Others don't believe this is a big deal. Some have faith in God and expect miracles during this 2020. Others say the worst is yet to come. So, friends, we are not in the same boat. We are going through a time when our perceptions and needs are completely different. Each of us will emerge, in our own way, from this storm. It is very important to see beyond what is seen at first glance. Not just looking, actually seeing. We are all on different ships during this storm experiencing a very different journey. Unknown author 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Simple. It’s Trump's fault. Come on now. He saved billions of lives! https://apple.news/Afn1XZIZtSwKQHbgLS91iCw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Simple. It’s Trump's fault. Take this crap elsewhere. We had gone almost a day with only one other stupid post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Come on now. He saved billions of lives! https://apple.news/Afn1XZIZtSwKQHbgLS91iCw You too. Get lost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Redneksioux said: If covid19 is such a minor blip when you look at the big picture, how can you explain the worldwide shortage on ppe and certain meds? How can I explain gas for 94 cents a gallon in Red Wing MN while the Faygo 24oz pop I bought along with it costs $1.29? I’m curious to see how this plays out in Sweden... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233783/Sweden-herd-immunity-month-claims-infectious-diseases-chief.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: How can I explain gas for 94 cents a gallon in Red Wing MN while the Faygo 24oz pop I bought along with it costs $1.29? Dang that’s a good price for gas. We are paying 1.73 in ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmania Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Defensiveness and condescension free discussion https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/14/coronavirus-models-ihme-ic/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, iramurphy said: Take this crap elsewhere. We had gone almost a day with only one other stupid post. One? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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