UND- NDSU GDT 9/7/2019

[nodakgirl93]

1 hour ago, iramurphy said:

We shouldn’t have played these 2. We caved to playing both games in Fargo. We weren’t ready the first time and it cost us a playoff game. We weren’t ready this time. I hope it doesn’t cost us another playoff bid at the end of the year. 

If we are not ready to play the Bison right now then does this program even deserve a playoff spot? Nothing wrong with good competition. 

[Oxbow6]

On a positive note Danny is a big upgrade from Rudy. Couple head scratcher calls but I like the direction of his play calling.

[SWSiouxMN]

26 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

You know you've packed it when you see this.......

That seriously can't be real.

But if it is.…. that's awful and everyone from the AD down should be embarrassed to allowing that to happen.

This picture should be emailed to Chaves and explained why this is a terrible look. 

 

[SiouxVolley]

1 minute ago, SWSiouxMN said:

That seriously can't be real.

But if it is.…. that's awful and everyone from the AD down should be embarrassed to allowing that to happen.

This picture should be emailed to Chaves and explained why this is a terrible look. 

 

It was at near the end of the game according to Bozovillle.

[SWSiouxMN]

Just now, SiouxVolley said:

It was at near the end of the game according to Bozovillle.

That's makes it even worse.

If that is possible

[iramurphy]

52 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

It's the lack of competitiveness and the lack of concern from so many people in the UND fan base.

I have pointed it out many times on this forum and have been told in response that I don't know what I am talking about and I am not a real fan of our teams and whatever other garbage people can come up with.

Well, I think I am being proven right.

And I am not happy at all about that.

This game was a huge measuring stick for where we are and we didn’t measure up. We aren’t a complete team right now offensively, defensively or special teams. I doubt your disappointment and concern is greater than mine or others. I thought we could be more competitive by now but today’s game is over. We need to focus on the upcoming game and we need to improve in a number of areas. We all have our own style and manner which if different than yours is not indicative of complacency. We aren’t going to make coaching changes before the end of the season so, to me, that discussion is fruitless unless I’m speaking to the decision makers. In the meantime, these coaches have my full support until they resign or until the end of the season whichever comes first. The Bison are pretty good right now.  Unless we improve each week we are mediocre at best. I expect us to improve each week. If we don’t, you will need to stand in line to demand changes. My friends, alumni that I know, and former players expect excellence. I can’t play anymore, I can’t coach anymore, so until the time is right I can keep attending games, donating what I can and offer my support.  These coaches are subject to the measuring stick I have applied to subordinate staff in the past. Are we better off with them or without them?  That question must be answered at the end of each season. Until then, Go Hawks. 

[shep]

As bad a loss as this team has had in the last 5 years. No closer the Moo Yu than we were 8 years ago.

[Tangolou]

12 minutes ago, shep said:

Rudy got lots of flack and for good reason. For at least the last 2 years and NOW , the D simply can not figure out how to stop a running QB. Yet the D coordinator is deemed a god around here.

I knew this quote was from you even before I checked to see who the author was. What does that say about your playbook RUDY???

[surewhynot]

46 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

LOL...go look dork

UND is 2-4 i think  against MVFC in the last 5 years??....who is the dork? a win against misery st. and south dakota?

 

[shep]

1 minute ago, iramurphy said:

This game was a huge measuring stick for where we are and we didn’t measure up. We aren’t a complete team right now offensively, defensively or special teams. I doubt your disappointment and concern is greater than mine or others. I thought we could be more competitive by now but today’s game is over. We need to focus on the upcoming game and we need to improve in a number of areas. We all have our own style and manner which if different than yours is not indicative of complacency. We aren’t going to make coaching changes before the end of the season so, to me, that discussion is fruitless unless I’m speaking to the decision makers. In the meantime, these coaches have my full support until they resign or until the end of the season whichever comes first. The Bison are pretty good right now.  Unless we improve each week we are mediocre at best. I expect us to improve each week. If we don’t, you will need to stand in line to demand changes. My friends, alumni that I know, and former players expect excellence. I can’t play anymore, I can’t coach anymore, so until the time is right I can keep attending games, donating what I can and offer my support.  These coaches are subject to the measuring stick I have applied to subordinate staff in the past. Are we better off with them or without them?  That question must be answered at the end of each season. Until then, Go Hawks. 

I've stopped being surprised that some think they care more than the rest of us. We all want this football team to be successful. We all want playoffs, but because we don't constantly bi&th about it,  some posters here take it that we don't  care. Today sucked and the team sucked and it reminds me of the 80s when I went to UND and the team sucked and I'm sick of it.

[Mama Sue]

6 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

This game was a huge measuring stick for where we are and we didn’t measure up. We aren’t a complete team right now offensively, defensively or special teams. I doubt your disappointment and concern is greater than mine or others. I thought we could be more competitive by now but today’s game is over. We need to focus on the upcoming game and we need to improve in a number of areas. We all have our own style and manner which if different than yours is not indicative of complacency. We aren’t going to make coaching changes before the end of the season so, to me, that discussion is fruitless unless I’m speaking to the decision makers. In the meantime, these coaches have my full support until they resign or until the end of the season whichever comes first. The Bison are pretty good right now.  Unless we improve each week we are mediocre at best. I expect us to improve each week. If we don’t, you will need to stand in line to demand changes. My friends, alumni that I know, and former players expect excellence. I can’t play anymore, I can’t coach anymore, so until the time is right I can keep attending games, donating what I can and offer my support.  These coaches are subject to the measuring stick I have applied to subordinate staff in the past. Are we better off with them or without them?  That question must be answered at the end of each season. Until then, Go Hawks. 

Very well said... stand behind the coaches and team...

[iramurphy]

56 minutes ago, oldage said:

It is the first year for this offense using players recruited for another offense.  You expect instant transformation? 

Actually yes. Either that or you transition differently. You need to put the players in a position to be successful and you put them in a scheme that gives them the best chance to succeed.  

[UND1983]

6 minutes ago, surewhynot said:

UND is 2-4 i think  against MVFC in the last 5 years??....who is the dork? a win against misery st. and south dakota?

 

Another clown starting an account just to say that.  

[Mama Sue]

12 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

That seriously can't be real.

But if it is.…. that's awful and everyone from the AD down should be embarrassed to allowing that to happen.

This picture should be emailed to Chaves and explained why this is a terrible look. 

 

Well I posted send me a photo and I can sew you a hawk.... seriously, mine would be a LOT better and I don’t want to brag...I did not vision this.

If I wasn’t sewing for the high school play Mary Poppins, I would whip onecuo this week and bring it with..... might anyway!

[surewhynot]

56 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Don't feed this pathetic troll. That is what he wants.

Look it up bud...you're living in a Sioux reality that doesn't exist. 

Seriously, look it up, your memory is tainted

[Midwestern Hawk]

Tough situation for UND.  As much as I hate to say it, for its level(FCS) NDSU is premiere program in football.  A tough measuring stick for us.  Let’s see what happens next Saturday vs a good opponent before getting to dramatic about the state of UND football program. 

[homer]

11 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

On a positive note Danny is a big upgrade from Rudy. Couple head scratcher calls but I like the direction of his play calling.

This is my one positive take away from this game.  I think Danny will learn a lot from this tape and get better.  There were some things consistently there today that we didn’t take advantage of.  Not 30’points worth of stuff but enough to move some chains.  

I also think Danny learns that some personnel we roll out there doesn’t fit what he wants to do.  I’d rather get the personnel out and be a little more predictable than put the personnel out that won’t allow a play to work even if perfectly executed.  

There is not a team left on the schedule as good as what we played today.  Let’s win enough to get back to Fargo and play this one again.  Lots of teams are going to lose to FU by 20-30 this year.  

I’m not saying today is acceptable and I’m not disappointed.  I took a lot of !@#$ today and thought we would compete.  Some of today can be corrected and the expectation is it will be.  

[rover]

This is off the subject

but why the hell would you schedule Oklahoma?

[Midwestern Hawk]

1 minute ago, rover said:

This is off the subject

but why the hell would you schedule Oklahoma?

A team which was pummeled by Montana last Saturday.

[SWSiouxMN]

1 minute ago, rover said:

This is off the subject

but why the hell would you schedule Oklahoma?

must be one big $$$$$$$$$$$$$

[surewhynot]

4 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Another clown starting an account just to say that.  

You said "Go look it up dork" (in regards to how mighty UND is against MVFC)

So, facts have been presented to you, and now you look like Bubba when he plays an actual football team...confused

 

[northernraider]

I'm not native to North Dakota so not familiar with all the history between UND and NDSU. As I understand it, during D2 days both teams were competitive, often switching dominance every few of years. However since  the move up to FCS, NDSU has basically become king. 

My question is how did this happen? Was it because NDSU went D1 first? Did Mussman hold us back? Focus on football over hockey at UND? None or all the above?

[SteppenHawk]

The answer you seek is called leadership.

[Wilbur]

1 hour ago, Rory said:

Yet another ass kicking 

Was it your mom or dad?

You were told to clean the basement. 

 

[fightingsioux4life]

3 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

This game was a huge measuring stick for where we are and we didn’t measure up. We aren’t a complete team right now offensively, defensively or special teams. I doubt your disappointment and concern is greater than mine or others. I thought we could be more competitive by now but today’s game is over. We need to focus on the upcoming game and we need to improve in a number of areas. We all have our own style and manner which if different than yours is not indicative of complacency. We aren’t going to make coaching changes before the end of the season so, to me, that discussion is fruitless unless I’m speaking to the decision makers. In the meantime, these coaches have my full support until they resign or until the end of the season whichever comes first. The Bison are pretty good right now.  Unless we improve each week we are mediocre at best. I expect us to improve each week. If we don’t, you will need to stand in line to demand changes. My friends, alumni that I know, and former players expect excellence. I can’t play anymore, I can’t coach anymore, so until the time is right I can keep attending games, donating what I can and offer my support.  These coaches are subject to the measuring stick I have applied to subordinate staff in the past. Are we better off with them or without them?  That question must be answered at the end of each season. Until then, Go Hawks. 

And how many mediocre and disappointing seasons do we have to have before something is done about it? The question never ends up getting answered after the season is over because nobody wants to acknowledge the 800 pound gorilla in the room. This is the sort of "Aw, shucks, nothing we can do about it, everything is fine the way it is, let's move on" mentality that I have noticed seep into the administration and athletic department over the past 10-12 years. We have had rudderless leadership from UND's administration for such a long time I forget what strong leadership looks and feels like. And a look at the state of our programs gives you an idea of the consequences of that thinking.

We don't have Phase II of the HPC. We have 80 year old FB locker rooms and facilities in Memorial Stadium which even a good Division II program would be embarrassed to have. And on top of that, 52% of FB revenues get skimmed off the top by REA, Inc. And then people have the unmitigated gall to say the FB program should just "pull itself up by its bootstraps". Never mind that the bootstraps are old and worn out and haven't been up to code since about 2005. We are just supposed to pretend that all is well and not worry about it.

When we made this move to Division I, we should have known it would cost a lot more money to put competitive teams on the field/court. It would take more fundraising and more thinking outside the box to fund more scholarships, new and/or upgraded facilities and a new athletic department wide attitude towards making all our programs successful. But we haven't done those things. We still try to fund our athletic department with season tickets, Champions Club memberships and 50/50 raffles. A Division II funding model won't work anymore. We aren't playing the likes of Augustana, Winona State or UM-Crookston anymore.

I do think Chaves has the potential to help turn things around (his MBB hire showed the creativity and outside-the-box thinking that Tom Buning and Brian Faison were incapable of). But we do need to hire a strong UND President to clean up the mess Kennedy left behind in so many areas of campus. And one of those messes is the athletic department, which, with the exception of volleyball, has produced average at best teams over the past several years.

It all starts at the top. And we have been lacking in that area for a long time.