UND-FB-FAN Posted November 26 Posted November 26 50 minutes ago, iramurphy said: I think your summary regarding the initial hiring is spot on. I’m not sure about the “many” older guys but I wouldn’t know. I was never lobbied nor asked my opinion. It ls pretty normal for people to lobby for the hiring of a friend or family member. For whatever reason Bubba was extended. I think that surprised a lot of people but at this time it is what it is. I can’t speak for others but although his supporters may not be demanding he be fired, quite a few wish he would step down. If it wouldn’t cost so much, I think more people would be more vocal. It costs a lot to remove him as head coach because of an incredibly questionable and suspect extension, which hasn’t been explained. There are corruption and/or lack of accountability concerns still present, undoubtedly, based on this extension and also now with there being no removal of the head coach (despite a 5-7 season, 5-game losing streak, and only 1 playoff victory over 11 seasons). The extension was completely unwarranted and it raises signifiant questions. Being afraid to ask such questions is a poor quality, in my opinion, regardless of previous track record. 1 1 Quote
Popular Post Shawn-O Posted November 26 Popular Post Posted November 26 If hockey and hoops don’t go well the next four months I think Uncle Andy has to make a move with the AD position. 9 Quote
gfhockey Posted November 26 Posted November 26 First red flag was Bubba said this is his dream job. You and D should not be a dream Job. It should be a stepping stone. 3 Quote
UND Football Fan Posted November 27 Posted November 27 29 minutes ago, gfhockey said: First red flag was Bubba said this is his dream job. You and D should not be a dream Job. It should be a stepping stone. Or this is my dream job and my goal is to win a national title in 5 years. Or what ever the contract length was. (John McKay of the Bucs had a five year playoff plan because his contract was five years) Quote
iramurphy Posted November 27 Posted November 27 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: It costs a lot to remove him as head coach because of an incredibly questionable and suspect extension, which hasn’t been explained. There are corruption and/or lack of accountability concerns still present, undoubtedly, based on this extension and also now with there being no removal of the head coach (despite a 5-7 season, 5-game losing streak, and only 1 playoff victory over 11 seasons). The extension was completely unwarranted and it raises signifiant questions. Being afraid to ask such questions is a poor quality, in my opinion, regardless of previous track record. You are correct in that it would cost a lot to buy out the contract. I would agree the extension was unwarranted. I believe the majority of folks on this forum agree. Everyone knows about the FB team’s struggles. (I think you have made your opinion clear multiple times over multiple years by what you repeatedly post). Where did you get the idea people are afraid to ask questions? You lose credibility when you repeat your unfounded accusations of corruption. If there is corruption don’t you have an obligation to expose it so it can be fixed? Extending a coaches contract may prove to be a mistake but it isn’t corrupt. (This is exactly the kind of accusations that hurt DeBoer’s chance to be hired as the head coach years ago). 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 27 Posted November 27 45 minutes ago, iramurphy said: You are correct in that it would cost a lot to buy out the contract. I would agree the extension was unwarranted. I believe the majority of folks on this forum agree. Everyone knows about the FB team’s struggles. (I think you have made your opinion clear multiple times over multiple years by what you repeatedly post). Where did you get the idea people are afraid to ask questions? You lose credibility when you repeat your unfounded accusations of corruption. If there is corruption don’t you have an obligation to expose it so it can be fixed? Extending a coaches contract may prove to be a mistake but it isn’t corrupt. (This is exactly the kind of accusations that hurt DeBoer’s chance to be hired as the head coach years ago). My complaints of corruption have been nonspecific and don’t harm anything, but they do shed light on the major deficiencies within UND athletics. More to be determined I suppose … Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted November 27 Posted November 27 59 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: My complaints of corruption have been nonspecific and don’t harm anything, but they do shed light on the major deficiencies within UND athletics. More to be determined I suppose … It’s either corruption or else Chaves is just really that dumb. You can paint the picture however you want. Still means the same thing. Quote
jdub27 Posted November 27 Posted November 27 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: My complaints of corruption have been nonspecific and don’t harm anything, but they do shed light on the major deficiencies within UND athletics. More to be determined I suppose … I mean, if there is true corruption and you aren't shedding light on it, doesn't that makes you complicit by letting it continue? If it is actually accurate and as serious as you keep alluding to, myself and/or many others would be standing in line with you to take it to the President, legislature or SBoHE. Otherwise, the vague claims are borderline libel and do nothing other than come off as an attempt to stir the pot. My offer stands. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 27 Posted November 27 I'm not buying into the conspiracy stuff. I think the simplest explanation is the best explanation. It is simply easier for Chaves to keep extending the same coaches than facing the prospect of having to search for a replacement. It is also cheaper to keep extending a coach with a slightly above average winning percentage than hiring a younger coach with bigger upside and higher earning potential. This all goes back to my contention that UND's Division 2 era funding model is simply inadequate and incapable of providing the necessary resources to build a successful Division 1 athletic program. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 27 Posted November 27 1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said: I'm not buying into the conspiracy stuff. I think the simplest explanation is the best explanation. It is simply easier for Chaves to keep extending the same coaches than facing the prospect of having to search for a replacement. It is also cheaper to keep extending a coach with a slightly above average winning percentage than hiring a younger coach with bigger upside and higher earning potential. This all goes back to my contention that UND's Division 2 era funding model is simply inadequate and incapable of providing the necessary resources to build a successful Division 1 athletic program. All fair points, and likely true in its entirety. I’ve said this ad nauseam, but the objectives and goals (expectations) of the athletic department are so critically important. Schweigert is still head coach largely because expectations are so incredibly mediocre; not to mention I just listened to a podcast today where Chaves said they want UND football to be a top 16-24 seed team every year, with no mention of championship expectations (conference or playoffs). I think that is ridiculously low in terms of expectations, considering the FCS field as a whole and where UND fits into that budget-wise, facilities-wise, and conference-wise. The only constant deficit has been coaching … 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 27 Posted November 27 At risk of repeating myself ... On 11/26/2024 at 7:11 AM, The Sicatoka said: Accusations without evidence are not useful. If you're going to make a claim, back it up with something. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 27 Posted November 27 With the third largest MVFC FB spending, a slot in the quarters every other season seems like a hard target (mandatory minimum?). Source: https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e9912f90 3 Quote
90siouxfan Posted November 27 Posted November 27 10 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: I'm not buying into the conspiracy stuff. I think the simplest explanation is the best explanation. It is simply easier for Chaves to keep extending the same coaches than facing the prospect of having to search for a replacement. It is also cheaper to keep extending a coach with a slightly above average winning percentage than hiring a younger coach with bigger upside and higher earning potential. This all goes back to my contention that UND's Division 2 era funding model is simply inadequate and incapable of providing the necessary resources to build a successful Division 1 athletic program. good points, can you expand on the red portion, I thought earlier in the thread or in another thread it is shown that UND is near the top of spending in MVFC programs. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted November 27 Posted November 27 9 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: All fair points, and likely true in its entirety. I’ve said this ad nauseam, but the objectives and goals (expectations) of the athletic department are so critically important. Schweigert is still head coach largely because expectations are so incredibly mediocre; not to mention I just listened to a podcast today where Chaves said they want UND football to be a top 16-24 seed team every year, with no mention of championship expectations (conference or playoffs). I think that is ridiculously low in terms of expectations, considering the FCS field as a whole and where UND fits into that budget-wise, facilities-wise, and conference-wise. The only constant deficit has been coaching … Bolded part very true. 2 Quote
Parkers Pros Posted November 27 Posted November 27 Too bad. Good guy. I’m sure he wants to play. Lots of talent around him. Olson will be bringing in his guys now too so if the writing is on the wall, may as well pull stakes and get started! Good luck to him! 1 Quote
FSSD Posted November 28 Posted November 28 On 11/27/2024 at 8:05 AM, The Sicatoka said: With the third largest MVFC FB spending, a slot in the quarters every other season seems like a hard target (mandatory minimum?). Source: https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e9912f90 Just an FYI, SDSU numbers include stadium capital costs. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted November 28 Posted November 28 1 hour ago, FSSD said: Just an FYI, SDSU numbers include stadium capital costs. Both SD schools* 1 Quote
AJS Posted November 29 Posted November 29 Thank you, Mike, for actually writing about this! https://www.inforum.com/sports/college/mcfeely-what-becomes-of-bubba-at-und 4 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 1 hour ago, AJS said: Thank you, Mike, for actually writing about this! https://www.inforum.com/sports/college/mcfeely-what-becomes-of-bubba-at-und Agree. Nice to see he can occasionally get out his lane on TDS opinion columns. 1 Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 1 hour ago, AJS said: Thank you, Mike, for actually writing about this! https://www.inforum.com/sports/college/mcfeely-what-becomes-of-bubba-at-und Hopefully Mikey is right!! 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 29 Posted November 29 What’s MM pitching? I don’t give ForumComm money. 1 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: What’s MM pitching? I don’t give ForumComm money. I have a huge life hack for you if you have an iPhone….. click the link, and then at the top click this button that I have circled and then click show reader. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 29 Posted November 29 23 hours ago, FSSD said: Just an FYI, SDSU numbers include stadium capital costs. so we are lower on the scale than it looks? Quote
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