Who would UND hire?

[shep]

I agree that hiring DeBoer may have brought some good times but as he ascended he would have brought his assistants w him and UND could be in about the same situation it’s in now.

[Mama Sue]

His salary is projected to be $10M+. That does not count the buy out. He makes $4.2M now at Washington.

[shep]

Was offered over 8 mill at Washington

[Going48]

  On 1/13/2024 at 1:53 AM, rochsioux said:

UND was down to DeBoer and Bubba…they chose poorly. 

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"They", who were they?  Probably shouldn't be on any more coach selection committee's. 

[The Sicatoka]

Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere:

Hope NDSU coaches wear khakis this season so he's ... Jake from (ND) State (farm school) wearing khakis. 

[sioux24/7]

Tell me why I shouldn’t get this thread going again. 

[HoopsFan03]

  On 10/27/2024 at 2:55 AM, sioux24/7 said:

Tell me why I shouldn’t get this thread going again. 

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Because Chaves is our AD

[Sioux94]

  On 10/27/2024 at 2:55 AM, sioux24/7 said:

Tell me why I shouldn’t get this thread going again. 

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Because Bubba will get extended until the end of time. 

[UND-SPORTS-FAN]

I love that the bar for the football progrum is so low that being nice gets you a 3 to 4 year extension without question

[90siouxfan]

at this point any high school coach with a winning record would be a refreshing change....

[F'n Hawks]

What kind of connections does Fruechte have to put together an entirely new defensive staff? If Bubba really loves UND football he resigns after this year

[UND1983]

  On 10/27/2024 at 3:44 AM, UND-SPORTS-FAN said:

I love that the bar for the football progrum is so low that being nice gets you a 3 to 4 year extension without question

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The UND Country Club is real

[fightingsioux4life]

  On 10/27/2024 at 2:55 AM, sioux24/7 said:

Tell me why I shouldn’t get this thread going again. 

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Because Bubba is liked by old ladies?

[HoopsFan03]

  On 10/27/2024 at 4:06 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

Because Bubba is liked by old ladies?

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He’s also liked by opposing QB’s Moms

[CMSioux]

  On 10/27/2024 at 2:55 AM, sioux24/7 said:

Tell me why I shouldn’t get this thread going again. 

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Go to a booster lunch - they all have white hair and fat wallets, he's not going anywhere. 

[AJS]

Depends on when. IF they finish with 6 wins or less this year, then I do think it happens after this year. Go with Freund and keep all offensive personnel. If they get to 7 (with or without making playoffs) or more, then put the associate head coach tag on Fruechte and hope next year is Bubba’s last and then hand it over to Fruechte. 

[AJS]

  On 10/27/2024 at 8:42 PM, CMSioux said:

Go to a booster lunch - they all have white hair and fat wallets, he's not going anywhere. 

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So you’re saying the reason Bubba keeps getting extensions is there’s big $ boosters pumping money into the program to keep him? I had just assumed Chaves was incredibly lazy and loved mediocrity. Very happy with this new development. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

  On 10/27/2024 at 8:58 PM, AJS said:

So you’re saying the reason Bubba keeps getting extensions is there’s big $ boosters pumping money into the program to keep him? I had just assumed Chaves was incredibly lazy and loved mediocrity. Very happy with this new development. 

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It’s true though. A lot of influential money backing Bubba despite his mediocre at best coaching ability. Pays to be nice I guess, especially in North Dakota. Comes back to expectations though; being nice is more important than winning (or doing both!) around here I guess

[SiouxHawkGuy]

  On 10/27/2024 at 8:45 PM, AJS said:

Depends on when. IF they finish with 6 wins or less this year, then I do think it happens after this year. Go with Freund and keep all offensive personnel. If they get to 7 (with or without making playoffs) or more, then put the associate head coach tag on Fruechte and hope next year is Bubba’s last and then hand it over to Fruechte. 

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Make Fruechte HC today

[fightingsioux4life]

  On 10/27/2024 at 8:42 PM, CMSioux said:

Go to a booster lunch - they all have white hair and fat wallets, he's not going anywhere. 

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This is why our teams are mediocre to average year after year. Why big money boosters embrace this garbage is beyond my understanding.

The person who needs to start caring about excellence in athletics is Armacost. Armacost is the President; it all starts at the top. Until then..........

[NDRA]

So people are saying that the second choice OC, less than a year ago, should be made the new HC?

[SiouxHawkGuy]

  On 10/27/2024 at 9:15 PM, NDRA said:

So people are saying that the second choice OC, less than a year ago, should be made the new HC?

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Anyone else at this point

[AJS]

With these new developments (at least for me), think we’re stuck. Clearly, there would always be a tipping point, but not sure even Bubba would be able to reach that low. Let’s play hypothetical’s. He loses out this year. Would that do it? @UND-FB-FAN , @CMSioux 

I think it would. Unlikely of course as based on past results, getting to 6 would be enough. Just needs one more.
 

My new outlook is hope for the best. 7 wins this year, enough to sell another year to the team ( i.e transfer portal for key players). Key for me is putting Associate Head Coach title on Fruechte after this year.

[The Sicatoka]

  On 10/27/2024 at 9:15 PM, NDRA said:

So people are saying that the second choice OC, less than a year ago, should be made the new HC?

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Not advocating, but if something happened, and needed interim, who else? Tom Dosch? Special teams coordinator?

[UND-FB-FAN]

  On 10/27/2024 at 9:29 PM, The Sicatoka said:

Not advocating, but if something happened, and needed interim, who else? Tom Dosch? Special teams coordinator?

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Bubba will keep the job all season, I’m sure of it. At the end of year, though, after the expected occurs (one and done in the playoffs or worse), someone needs to step up and be a leader, whether that’s Bubba resigning, or Chaves and Armacost buying him out.  The latter is very unlikely to happen, so really it again comes back to Bubba. Will he admit it’s time and he can’t get it done? Special teams coordinator or Dosch getting the interim title is pointless, accomplishes nothing in the grand scheme of things.
 

The program needs a new voice/ leader in the worst way. it’s why the team is a complete shell of itself on the road or in big games / playoffs. No lead voice. No voice of reason. No leadership or direction.