stoneySIOUX Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Cratter said: I think your initial reaction was correct. Siouxfan19 said Wilkie and Tomek had bad attitudes.... I pointed out...there seems to be a lot of conflicting issues regarding JJ.... Illness? Injury? Maybe it will come out later he also had a bad attitude? IDK (Tomek and JJ both have lots of "injuries") I don't claim to know what' is happening in the locker room. You do. I'm flat out telling you it's not an attitude issue. Up to you whether or not if you want to believe me. Play it up to a locker room issue, if you like. But, for this situation, it's just not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, stoneySIOUX said: I'm flat out telling you it's not an attitude issue. Up to you whether or not if you want to believe me. Play it up to a locker room issue, if you like. But, for this situation, it's just not the case. Injury or illness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Cratter said: Injury or illness? Locker room issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, stoneySIOUX said: Tomek came in injured, sat behind Cam. Nuff said there, IMO. Next season, he sat behind Cam and had a legit shot to find the ice. Played poorly in his starts while Cam continued to take the net. Could have stayed last year, but again he was a No. 2 behind Cam and Thome was also drafted. So he left. No where did I see you write the words, bad attitude, in the post above... Maybe you aren't really in the loop as much as you like to claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cratter said: No where did I see you write the words, bad attitude, in the post above... Maybe you aren't really in the loop as much as you like to claim. Tomek underperformed and was about to have his spot taken. I never said anything about his attitude. I have heard previously that he never had a great work ethic, but I won't criticize that because I don't know that for certain. I'm telling you JJ's situation is different. Like I said before, you can believe me or not. I really couldn't care less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: I never said anything about his attitude. Exactly. He is no longer at UND because of his attitude, not because he was "about to have his spot taken away." There are other things you don't know about UND behind closed doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Cratter said: Exactly. He is no longer at UND because of his attitude, not because he was "about to have his spot taken away." Ok? Is that you saying that? I also add that I've heard he had poor work ethic. So? And how does any of this have anything to do with JJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: And how does any of this have anything to do with JJ? 18 minutes ago, Cratter said: There are other things you don't know about UND behind closed doors. You shouldn't be so sure about JJ as has been proven you don't know everything you think you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cratter said: You shouldn't be so sure about JJ as has proven you don't know everything you think you do. D'okay. Have a good night, man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Cratter said: Tomek, a drafted player, was clearly better than some players on the UND roster, yet never, if rarely played. He was injured. When he wasn't injured, he got lit up. That's why he rarely played...and eventually transferred. And what are the odds, his stats certainly haven't improved at UNO. Man, I'd say this team's issues have a heck of a lot more to do with inconsistent play and horrendous special teams rather than figuring out if Tomek and Wilkie transferred due to locker room issues...but what do I know? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, brianvf said: He was injured. When he wasn't injured, he got lit up. That's why he rarely played...and eventually transferred. Thome has checked all three boxes so far. That means.... Thome's day are numbered at UND? There are the "official stories" you read about from Brad, and there are "the other side" stories of what happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, Cratter said: Thome has checked all three boxes so far. That means.... Thome's day are numbered at UND? There are the "official stories" you read about from Brad, and there are "the other side" stories of what happens... And Brad knows all of them, which is why it's mighty helpful to be a good friend of his. And why Stoney should be a highly trusted poster about unreported issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 So is JJ sick, hanging with a teammates girl or has a poor work ethic? Undisclosed is so wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Cratter said: I think your initial reaction maybe was correct. Siouxfan19 said Wilkie and Tomek had bad attitudes....(I'm not disputing that...its code for "didn't get along with the coaches.") I pointed out...there seems to be a lot of conflicting issues regarding JJ.... Illness? Injury? Maybe it will come out later he also had a bad attitude? I do not know. (Tomek and JJ both have long lasting "injuries.") I don't claim to know what is happening in the locker room. You do. Don't think Brad Berry would use the word "dream player" about a guy who had a bad attitude. Of course he then added he would like to see more offense out of JJ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Has JJ played at all this semester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 7 hours ago, brianvf said: He was injured. When he wasn't injured, he got lit up. That's why he rarely played...and eventually transferred. And what are the odds, his stats certainly haven't improved at UNO. Man, I'd say this team's issues have a heck of a lot more to do with inconsistent play and horrendous special teams rather than figuring out if Tomek and Wilkie transferred due to locker room issues...but what do I know? Shame on you for posting 'rational' thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 10 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said: Senden blew me away this year. So impressed. Knew the kid would work hard, but man, he's been great. Keane wouldn't be playing top 6 if JJ and Mash were healthy. Keane has shown more in limited action this year than JJ has shown in 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Keane has shown more in limited action this year than JJ has shown in 3 years. I disagree, but he's certainly not far off, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Keane has shown more in limited action this year than JJ has shown in 3 years. Well JJ's hot co-ed might beg to differ.....................................but with the history of girlfriends among teammates who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxSherm94 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 On 2/4/2019 at 2:27 PM, siouxforce19 said: Gaber is a 2020-21 recruit, so he won’t be here in the fall. CHI has Gaber coming in 19/20 season, as of Dec. 17th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, SiouxSherm94 said: CHI has Gaber coming in 19/20 season, as of Dec. 17th I don’t rely on those sites for information. His junior team says 2020-21, Schlossman says 2020-21. That’s what I’m going with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 14 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said: Hahaha Gornall and Chartrand! Is Chartrand still playing? Totally forgot about them. You know why I forgot about them? I think you know. You're using these two to try and prove your point? Goodness. Doesn't look like Chartrand is playing anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 10 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said: Tomek underperformed and was about to have his spot taken. I never said anything about his attitude. I have heard previously that he never had a great work ethic, but I won't criticize that because I don't know that for certain. I'm telling you JJ's situation is different. Like I said before, you can believe me or not. I really couldn't care less. That sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Since the 2000-01 roster (on FightingHawks.com) here are names that I recognize as not making past a sophomore season at UND. Most of these are Hakstol era; I do not claim the list is 100% accurate for including all names nor do I claim that there might not be a name on there that shouldn't be (meaning played at a junior). Nate Wright Chris Fournier Ryan Connelly Derek Faul Todd Alexander Michael Forney Anthony Grieco Shea Hamilton Landon Snider Corey Fienhage Graeme Harrington Mike Cichy Brett Bruneteau Ryan Hill Dan Senkbeil Taylor Dickin Wade Murphy Mike Gornall Chris Wilkie Danys Chartrand Matej Tomek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 When I see the above list I'd say "sophomore housecleaning" hasn't been happening under Berry. I don't know why. I suspect he didn't have someone ready to step in so he had to hold onto what are today highly under-performing junior and senior classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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