NDSU grad Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, homer said: I'll sum up your post- "there is no grey area but the only grey area is. They seem lax on it but it's not clearly defined. ". If my username was was UNDgrad you wouldn't be coming back at me at all, but that's ok. I get it. Quote
nd1sufan Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 7 hours ago, homer said: There is a lot of grey area. It's not as cut and dry as you make it out to be either. I had a conversation with one of NDSUs coaches after DeLuca got granted And they were fairly certain it was going to happen but couldn't 100% guarantee it would be granted. There was a lot of work that went into making the decision to end his season after he wasn't needed anymore. Actually he was needed. They would likely be playing this weekend if DeLuca hadn't gotten hurt. He played as a true freshman, therefore next year is his 5th year and he gets his hardship year. You could tell in the Iowa game he could barely lift his arm because of the pain. He is actually better than most FCS linebackers with one arm though, so if they didn't think there was a very good chance of him getting another year, he probably would have played through the pain. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 46 minutes ago, nd1sufan said: Actually he was needed. They would likely be playing this weekend if DeLuca hadn't gotten hurt. He played as a true freshman, therefore next year is his 5th year and he gets his hardship year. You could tell in the Iowa game he could barely lift his arm because of the pain. He is actually better than most FCS linebackers with one arm though, so if they didn't think there was a very good chance of him getting another year, he probably would have played through the pain. They didn't lose because of their LBs. They lost because of their WRs QB and DBs Quote
Bison06 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 41 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: They didn't lose because of their LBs. They lost because of their WRs QB and DBs Having Deluca in that game would have significantly impacted JMU from embarrassing our defense in the first half on the ground. I don't think he would have been enough for NDSU to pull out the win, but he absolutely would have helped NDSU stop their amazing running back. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Having Deluca in that game would have significantly impacted JMU from embarrassing our defense in the first half on the ground. I don't think he would have been enough for NDSU to pull out the win, but he absolutely would have helped NDSU stop their amazing running back. He sure would have helped but even he wouldn't have been able to fix all the holes that were exposed by the Dukes. Quote
Texas rancher Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 2 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: He sure would have helped Quote
Bison06 Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 9 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: He sure would have helped but even he wouldn't have been able to fix all the holes that were exposed by the Dukes. I agree Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 15 hours ago, nd1sufan said: Actually he was needed. They would likely be playing this weekend if DeLuca hadn't gotten hurt. He played as a true freshman, therefore next year is his 5th year and he gets his hardship year. You could tell in the Iowa game he could barely lift his arm because of the pain. He is actually better than most FCS linebackers with one arm though, so if they didn't think there was a very good chance of him getting another year, he probably would have played through the pain. He would of not beat James Madison. Quote
shep Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 Speaking of the current Champs, not that many Sr's on the roster. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 JM will be good as long as there's no drug problem? Quote
nd1sufan Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 On January 6, 2017 at 9:01 PM, geaux_sioux said: They didn't lose because of their LBs. They lost because of their WRs QB and DBs DeLuca is very good in the pass game covering backs an te's, but yes they do need help at corner. You act like JMU blew out NDSU. It was pretty close. If they had contained the JMU back it would have been a toss up game. The JMU QB biggest pass plays came on scrambles when he escaped pressure and heaved up a couple of bombs that were caught. On a side note, did anybody catch the ESPN announcers say the JMU secondary was the best in the FCS? They obviously hadn't watched the UND secondary had they? Quote
UND-1 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, nd1sufan said: DeLuca is very good in the pass game covering backs an te's, but yes they do need help at corner. You act like JMU blew out NDSU. It was pretty close. If they had contained the JMU back it would have been a toss up game. The JMU QB biggest pass plays came on scrambles when he escaped pressure and heaved up a couple of bombs that were caught. On a side note, did anybody catch the ESPN announcers say the JMU secondary was the best in the FCS? They obviously hadn't watched the UND secondary had they? Crickets...... Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, nd1sufan said: DeLuca is very good in the pass game covering backs an te's, but yes they do need help at corner. You act like JMU blew out NDSU. It was pretty close. If they had contained the JMU back it would have been a toss up game. The JMU QB biggest pass plays came on scrambles when he escaped pressure and heaved up a couple of bombs that were caught. On a side note, did anybody catch the ESPN announcers say the JMU secondary was the best in the FCS? They obviously hadn't watched the UND secondary had they? And if we hadn't choked against Richmond we would have won...... But we didn't, and neither did you. 1 Quote
gundy1124 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, nd1sufan said: DeLuca is very good in the pass game covering backs an te's, but yes they do need help at corner. You act like JMU blew out NDSU. It was pretty close. If they had contained the JMU back it would have been a toss up game. The JMU QB biggest pass plays came on scrambles when he escaped pressure and heaved up a couple of bombs that were caught. On a side note, did anybody catch the ESPN announcers say the JMU secondary was the best in the FCS? They obviously hadn't watched the UND secondary had they? Without the BS holding call it's 7-0, Stick actually did fumble, and JMU just lost their starting RT and the backup was terrible, and 2 other starters were suspended. Yet, they still traveled to the mighty Fargo Dome and in spite of 8 false starts by all accounts 'HANDLED' you. All things considered the game wasn't that close. The announcers also said JMU beats the Bison 8 of 10 times. I would argue 10 out of 10 times. 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, nd1sufan said: DeLuca is very good in the pass game covering backs an te's, but yes they do need help at corner. You act like JMU blew out NDSU. It was pretty close. If they had contained the JMU back it would have been a toss up game. The JMU QB biggest pass plays came on scrambles when he escaped pressure and heaved up a couple of bombs that were caught. On a side note, did anybody catch the ESPN announcers say the JMU secondary was the best in the FCS? They obviously hadn't watched the UND secondary had they? It was 17-0 at one point - NDSU was lucky to even make it a game. Also, NDSU was a coin flip away from losing several other games; Charleston Southern, Eastern Washington, Iowa, and Northern Iowa are some that come to mind. UND was close to winning a playoff game as they led 24-7 in the third quarter but they choked and need to get better. Same goes for NDSU; they aren't "best team" caliber anymore and they need to improve to get there again. Face reality. Quote
darell1976 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: It was 17-0 at one point - NDSU was lucky to even make it a game. Also, NDSU was a coin flip away from losing several other games; Charleston Southern, Eastern Washington, Iowa, and Northern Iowa are some that come to mind. UND was close to winning a playoff game as they led 24-7 in the third quarter but they choked and need to get better. Same goes for NDSU; they aren't "best team" caliber anymore and they need to improve to get there again. Face reality. If we are talking close games, we also were a blocked punt (Stony Brook), and a 2 point conversion against an FBS team (Bowling Green) away from an undefeated regular season, and a possible 1 or 2 seed. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, gundy1124 said: Without the BS holding call it's 7-0, Stick actually did fumble, and JMU just lost their starting RT and the backup was terrible, and 2 other starters were suspended. Yet, they still traveled to the mighty Fargo Dome and in spite of 8 false starts by all accounts 'HANDLED' you. All things considered the game wasn't that close. The announcers also said JMU beats the Bison 8 of 10 times. I would argue 10 out of 10 times. exactly...the game really wasn't that close when you factor in the bad calls against JMU too!!!! (call it both ways) Quote
Bison06 Posted January 8, 2017 Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, darell1976 said: If we are talking close games, we also were a blocked punt (Stony Brook), and a 2 point conversion against an FBS team (Bowling Green) away from an undefeated regular season, and a possible 1 or 2 seed. It goes both ways Darrell. USD could've been a loss, weber and Montana state both could have been losses. winning is what matters. Good teams find a way to win tight games. Quote
Ozzie82 Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Isn't this thread about the 2017 Fighting Hawks season? 3 Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Ozzie82 said: Isn't this thread about the 2017 Fighting Hawks season? It's apparently about the trolls interfering with this thread. Let them fall in 2017. 1 1 Quote
Nodak78 Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Chris Carter has transferred to Grand Valley. Good Luck to him 2 Quote
UNDMOORHEAD Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Nodak78 said: Chris Carter has transferred to Grand Valley. Good Luck to him Best of luck. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Nodak78 said: Chris Carter has transferred to Grand Valley. Good Luck to him If you're going D2 that's one of the places to go. I hope he does great. 2 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: If you're going D2 that's one of the places to go. I hope he does great. I guess so. Still hate GVSU from the 2003 championship game. Proud to say I was there, and had a blast, but still bums me out that we lost that one. 2 Quote
AJS Posted January 9, 2017 Posted January 9, 2017 Good luck to Chris going forward, the last week hasn't been great for our secondary. 1 Quote
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