Dustin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, homer said: Agree to disagree. If I am playing a team like SDSU, Montana or another MVFC or Big Sky team, I would want to play them in the Alerus. We have seen what the playoff atmosphere in there can be. I guess the only thing we're disagreeing about is how beneficial it is to have two bye weeks before hosting a playoff game. That said, a point I hadn't thought of was that the bidding may be against a team like SDSU that has a bigger facility and could outbid us. In that case, two bye weeks and hosting a playoff game is better than one bye week and going on the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: I think we should all back off on the polls and UND rankings. Yes, we DID beat Sacramento St handily, BUT Cal-Poly was without their FB. And UND was without their All American running back 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, petey23 said: And UND was without their All American running back Pretty sure he was being sarcastic since all of the talk has been about Protherone not playing with little to no mention of Santiago going down on the second play from scrimmage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, petey23 said: And UND was without their All American running back 8 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: Pretty sure he was being sarcastic since all of the talk has been about Protherone not playing with little to no mention of Santiago going down on the second play from scrimmage. winner winner chicken dinner! UND missing any players is completely irrelevant. We could beat NDSU with a bunch of 12 year olds out there .... BUT if they were missing their water boy, combined with the fact that they are in the MVFC ... UND still drops from the polls, is eliminated from playoff contention through the year 2020, AND is put back on the NCAA's naughty list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 45 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: Obviously early, but for those who need material to read while at work. NoBowls has us playing SDSU in Brookings ... to go to Fargo. http://nobowls.com/ So the best case for being able to host a playoff game is either: 1) UND makes it to the top 8 and get seeded; 2) SDSU makes it to the top 8 and gets seeded; or 3) SDSU sputters and doesn't make the playoffs. My guess is number 2 is the most likely, if they can beat their conference opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 http://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Link&utm_campaign=FCSFootball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: http://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Link&utm_campaign=FCSFootball We are a bit high in this one at 16, but I will take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: http://herosports.com/fcs-football-rankings?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Link&utm_campaign=FCSFootball UNI and ISU too high. Cal Poly too low. NAU @ 23..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, UNDBIZ said: UNI and ISU too high. Cal Poly too low. NAU @ 23..... I hadn't even see that one. Even more to my point about ranking based on pre-season potential rather than what is actually happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WYOBISONMAN Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Congrats. It looks like Bubba is starting to unwind the mess that Muss left behind. It would sure be interesting to have a crystal ball and see what would have happened had Dale Lennon never left. I still think Lennon is a much better coach than his record at Southern Illinois. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 9 minutes ago, WYOBISONMAN said: It would sure be interesting to have a crystal ball and see what would have happened had Dale Lennon never left. I still think Lennon is a much better coach than his record at Southern Illinois. Dale's style of play better fit this region (and the available players). I don't wonder what would've happened; I wonder if he wonders ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 UNI beat Iowa State who has 1 win on the year. They have lost to Montana, USD, and Eastern Washington. Why are they ranked at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Dale's style of play better fit this region (and the available players). I don't wonder what would've happened; I wonder if he wonders ... For one, he would've continued making less money than the women's hockey head coach. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgieOgilthorpe Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 What time does the STATS poll typically get updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, Dagger said: UNI beat Iowa State who has 1 win on the year. They have lost to Montana, USD, and Eastern Washington. Why are they ranked at all. The magic of the quality loss lives on................................ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 AGS poll = Not bad WEEK 6 - 10/10/2016: Rank Team: Total Points First Place Votes Previous Wk. 1 North Dakota State Bison 1999 79 1 2 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1849 2 3 Eastern Washington Eagles 1835 1 3 4 Sam Houston State Bearkats 1735 4 5 Chattanooga Mocs 1708 5 6 James Madison Dukes 1558 6 7 The Citadel Bulldogs 1423 7 8 Richmond Spiders 1396 9 9 Montana Grizzlies 1386 8 10 Charleston Southern Buccaneers 1199 10 11 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1165 12 12 Youngstown State Penguins 1095 13 13 Villanova Wildcats 1058 15 14 Western Illinois Leathernecks 963 16 15 Cal Poly Mustangs 843 17 16 Albany Great Danes 813 14 17 Central Arkansas Bears 650 18 18 North Dakota Fighting Hawks 584 20 19 Samford Bulldogs 575 19 20 Harvard Crimson 411 21 21 Eastern Illinois Panthers 377 22 22 North Carolina A&T Aggies 344 23 23 Northern Iowa Panthers 268 11 24 New Hampshire Wildcats 238 26 25 Southern Utah Thunderbirds 170 27 ORV: 26 Stony Brook Seawolves 130 29 27 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 49 36 28 Wofford Terriers 44 39 29 Grambling State Tigers 28 32 30T South Dakota Coyotes 19 NR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 28 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: AGS poll = Not bad WEEK 6 - 10/10/2016: ORV: 26 Stony Brook Seawolves 130 29 27 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 49 36 28 Wofford Terriers 44 39 29 Grambling State Tigers 28 32 30T South Dakota Coyotes 19 NR You forgot to post all of the "ORV" teams. Looks like Sac. States quality losses are starting to get them noticed...Here they are: ORV: 26 Stony Brook Seawolves 130 29 27 Lehigh Mountain Hawks 49 36 28 Wofford Terriers 44 39 29 Grambling State Tigers 28 32 30T South Dakota Coyotes 19 NR 30T Tennessee State Tigers 19 28 32 McNeese State Cowboys 14 24 33 Illinois State Redbirds 13 25 34 Sacred Heart Pioneers 10 35T 35 Indiana State Sycamores 9 31 36T Missouri State Bears 5 33 36T Monmouth Hawks 5 NR 36T Sacramento State Hornets 5 NR 39 William & Mary Tribe 4 35T 40 Fordham Rams 1 NR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 #22 in the Stats rankings. I actually don't have a big problem with UNI being at #21. I mean they dropped 10 places from last weeks, which is huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 http://www.fcs.football/fcsfront.asp #22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Dustin said: So the best case for being able to host a playoff game is either: 1) UND makes it to the top 8 and get seeded; 2) SDSU makes it to the top 8 and gets seeded; or 3) SDSU sputters and doesn't make the playoffs. My guess is number 2 is the most likely, if they can beat their conference opponents. I better throw in there that UNI probably can't make the playoffs either if UND wants to host, unless number 1 happens, then it won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Dustin said: I better throw in there that UNI probably can't make the playoffs either if UND wants to host. Correct, it'd be key for both SDSU and UNI to miss the playoffs. That's why this weekend is interesting. I'd never cheer for NDSU, but it might be better for UND if NDSU beat the Jacks. Losing to NDSU won't drop them a lot, but it will give them 3 loses, which will in turn kind of put them on the bubble as far as one more loss (have a pretty tough schedule), would really hurt. That being said, if either / both go 7-4 they will be in no question. Getting SDSU to 5 losses is pretty tough to do, could see UNI going 6-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, AJS said: Correct, it'd be key for both SDSU and UNI to miss the playoffs. That's why this weekend is interesting. I'd never cheer for NDSU, but it might be better for UND if NDSU beat the Jacks. Losing to NDSU won't drop them a lot, but it will give them 3 loses, which will in turn kind of put them on the bubble as far as one more loss (have a pretty tough schedule), would really hurt. That being said, if either / both go 7-4 they will be in no question. Getting SDSU to 5 losses is pretty tough to do, could see UNI going 6-5. At this point, I don't think SDSU could lose a playoff spot with all the profit being made from playing a MVFC schedule, unless they really tank. Like you say, a loss to NDSU won't really hurt them that badly. I also think that UND getting a top 8 seed is also extremely unlikely, given there's no profit on their Big Sky schedule. So, if UND and SDSU are both at-large selections, those two schools would probably be matched up against each other, and it will probably be in Brookings, based on their ability to bid high. I would say root for SDSU to get one of the 8 seeds, and root for UNI to get knocked out of the playoffs all together. I think both of these things happening are achievable goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, Dustin said: At this point, I don't think SDSU could lose a playoff spot with all the profit being made from playing a MVFC schedule, unless they really tank. Like you say, a loss to NDSU won't really hurt them that badly. I also think that UND getting a top 8 seed is also extremely unlikely, given there's no profit on their Big Sky schedule. So, if UND and SDSU are both at-large selections, those two schools would probably be matched up against each other, and it will probably be in Brookings, based on their ability to bid high. I would say root for SDSU to get one of the 8 seeds, and root for UNI to get knocked out of the playoffs all together. I think both of these things happening are achievable goals. I believe UND could still outbid SDSU (assuming we make the playoffs). Their last home playoff game had 4,000 fans. The last few years they have gone on the road for the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OgieOgilthorpe Posted October 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2016 "The teams that generally have the best chance of stopping the dynasty are right within the Bison's Missouri Valley Football Conference. Since 2011, four of their five losses have come from four different teams within their conference." - FCS Top 25 Preview by Craig Haley (STATS Sr. Editor) He is just dying to compliment the MVFC. I mean, wouldn't you automatically assume most of their losses would come from teams that comprise 80% of their schedule??? It doesn't seem very shocking that most of their losses are coming from teams...that they play. Stupid 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, homer said: I believe UND could still outbid SDSU (assuming we make the playoffs). Their last home playoff game had 4,000 fans. The last few years they have gone on the road for the playoffs. Wow, I wonder why the fans didn't turn up. Anyway, good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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