And then there were 2....

[petey23]

to be fair, people were complaining 6 months ago, 3 months ago, 1 month ago...about everything that even related to the process.  There was major complaining long before they started changing the rules.

and with good reason.

It was a complete clusterfu&^ from start to finish. A freshmen marketing class at Devry could have put together and implemented a better process. Absolute fail from the leadership.

Edited November 9, 2015 by petey23

[Oxbow6]

From almost everything I can find and read on this topic it sounds like the university students are going to carry the vote and elect FH as the new nickname. Pretty sad scenario that they A) have followed the Pied Piper Kelley and his PC BS B) are basically voting for an adjective C) bought into a NA looking Hawk logo that will never happen

 

...........or D) all of the above

[UNDBIZ]

H.A.W.K.S

How

About

We

Keep

Sioux

[Fetch]

I dont think the students are as dumb as many of u think

I bet they are tired of old folks telling them what should happen

Obviously a lot of them wanted Nodaks by all the flags at games & I understand they had some club before all this & can still use Nodak Nation

Roughriders has little chance of catching on with them plus locals & regional people don't want 2 roughriders ........DUH !

Plus the vast majority will be Fighting Sioux Forever so it's not really going to matter

Edited November 9, 2015 by Fetch

[UND1981]

I participated in1 of the 4 hour focus meetings at the start of this process.  Hard to accept that FH will probably win and doesn't meet any of the criteria that was given to the committee.

[ericpnelson]

I'm not trying to make people sound dumb or uninformed, but kinda as teasing me (them knowing I'm pretty vocal about support about Roughriders) I get a lot of my friends who are still in school who send me a picture of that blackhawk logo captioned "pretty good reason to vote for fighting hawks" and it's not facetious. I have quite a few Facebook friends who changed it to their profile picture as well.

[ScottM]

I'm not trying to make people sound dumb or uninformed, but kinda as teasing me (them knowing I'm pretty vocal about support about Roughriders) I get a lot of my friends who are still in school who send me a picture of that blackhawk logo captioned "pretty good reason to vote for fighting hawks" and it's not facetious. I have quite a few Facebook friends who changed it to their profile picture as well.

Do they actually know the back-story on that proposed Blackhawk logo?

[The Sicatoka]

Do they actually know the back-story on that proposed Blackhawk logo?

Scott, reality doesn't matter. They'll be sorely disappointed. 

[Lakeside58703]

Let me say first off, I hate both of these final names and think the process was a sham. If we would end up with a bird as a mascot

could we at least name her Sue or even fighting sue?

[tnt]

Since we will be getting a logo that will most likely be somewhat generic, so as not to offend, maybe we should just make it similar to the Detroit Redwings logo with the interlocking ND in the middle.  Or maybe something with 2 wings with the ND connecting them and somehow incorporating the state outline in there. I agree with Schlossman that we need Brien or someone else doing the logo, and keeping the consultants out of that phase. Maybe we could get something decent out of that scenario. 

Edited November 9, 2015 by tnt

[jdub27]

If we would end up with a bird as a mascot could we at least name her Sue or even fighting sue?

[Goon]

Ha, I went to that movie with my daughter and wife.

 

Edited November 9, 2015 by Goon

[yababy8]

to be fair, people were complaining 6 months ago, 3 months ago, 1 month ago...about everything that even related to the process.  There was major complaining long before they started changing the rules.

Not aallowing North Dakota as a choice in the vote was when complaining became very justified.

[jdub27]

Not aallowing North Dakota as a choice in the vote was when complaining became very justified.

How so? The committee (who was tasked to come up with a new nickname) removed it (because it isn't a nickname) with exact same process that eliminated everything but the top 5. The only complaining that is justified is because it got a second look when nothing else did.

[TrueSioux2000]

Me: "I got into college! I'm officially a Fighting Hawk!"

Fam: "Oh my goodness, congratulations, that's awesome!...............now which school is that, again?"

[Sioux_FF]

I'm not trying to make people sound dumb or uninformed, but kinda as teasing me (them knowing I'm pretty vocal about support about Roughriders) I get a lot of my friends who are still in school who send me a picture of that blackhawk logo captioned "pretty good reason to vote for fighting hawks" and it's not facetious. I have quite a few Facebook friends who changed it to their profile picture as well.

My brother works at UND and I talked to him after the first vote.  He said one of the 6 people in his technical maintenance department printed out the fierce fighting hawk logo with the feathers and all 6 thought it was great.  He was going to vote Roughriders, but he thought the "hawk logo was too great to pass up." and changed his mind.  He said all 6 voted for the Hawks.   He is 63,  a longtime season ticket holder and a Sioux sports fan.  Just hasn't followed the whole nickname change as passionately as many have.  I told him there is no way UND will ever use a logo anywhere close to what they were shown, but his group of 6 bought the idea that it would be the logo.  I have to think a high percentage of the Hawk vote is in that camp.  Strong UND and Sioux fans, not dumb, but certainly uninformed.  

[The Sicatoka]

The same student body that cheered a "Fire Kelley" sign is giving Kelley his greatest win: his inoffensive bird mascot. 

[Oxbow6]

Griz, 'Cats, 'Yotes, Jacks, Bison, Gophers, Badgers.........Fighting Hawks. 

[The Sicatoka]

Mike Ivall: The Most Ripped Off Man In The Hockey Concept World

Folks, share this story. It is clear that there is about no possible way for UND to use that logo. Others have tried. 

[Siouxperfan7]

The Herald/WDAZ/KVLY/all media etx really have done a piss poor job in putting the truth out there about the hawk logo going around.  They need to do their job and report that no logos have been submitted for any name and that the hawk logo in question is absolutely 100% NOT going to be the logo if HAwks is selected.  We live in a world of uninformed naive people out there.  Truth needs to be told.  Heck, if Schlossman would jsut tweet out the correct info about that logo more people would know!!

[The Sicatoka]

Here's better:

Mike Ivall ‏@M_IvallOJHLI  Nov 1

Thank You everyone for enjoying my Blackhawks design. If it ever happens, I would be happy and sad. Alas, I no longer own the rights to it.

I bet Chicago of the NHL bought it to shelve it for when they need it. 

That means "NO" for UND. 

[UNDhoops]

so much for UND encouraging critical thinking I guess

[The Sicatoka]

so much for UND encouraging critical thinking I guess

So going with the generic, done at least a dozen times before by other schools in similar circumstances, consultant approved "idea" is critical thinking? 

Alrightythen ... 

[UNDhoops]

So going with the generic, done at least a dozen times before by other schools in similar circumstances, consultant approved "idea" is critical thinking? 

Alrightythen ... 

no.......exactly the opposite

[SWSiouxMN]

Don't shoot the messenger, its the new thing going around the student body from the Hawk supporters.