And then there were 2....

[Fetch]

A kitty nazi BS & golf balls .....wow

[obborg]

A kitty nazi BS & golf balls .....wow

Vote Roughriders!

[geaux_sioux]

Nazis/Germans are all about the Falcons. Similar but not the same.

 

http://animals.mom.me/differences-hawks-falcons-8511.html

[geaux_sioux]

German national soccer team logo.

[tnt]

I googled hawk logo images and out of a ton of them couldn't find any that seemed cool or worthy of UND.  Hope they can use a swooping bird to fill in the "N" of ND, and make it a relevant logo.  Just don't know if the consultants would take the time to differentiate it enough from the hundreds of stale images.  Bennett Brien would at least care what he puts out for consumption.

[SiouxVolley]

German national soccer team logo.

An eagle has been the symbol of the German region since Holy Roman Empire days.

[MafiaMan]

Ralph Engelstad was a great guy to UND. Did a lot for the school and athletics. Like him I'm a huge Sioux supporter. Will be voting Roughriders again, Hawks is the worst name ever (I highly suspect that "Fighting" will be dropped from the official name.) 

However, maybe Ralph wouldn't have much of a problem with Hawks since it means we could transition to something this. The soldiers that wore it were pretty into fighting if I recall and a lot of North Dakotans have German background. Win-win, right?

If you're a UND fan, I'm Winston Churchill's great grandson.  Gopher or Bison troll, more likely.

[ericpnelson]

I have it on good authority that Mussman will come back to replace Bubba as the head football coach if Fighting Hawks wins  #factsonly

[MafiaMan]

That is an awesome advertisement for Roughriders!  Get this on Facebook and ask if we should be hawks.

Apparently a Roughrider supporter believes the end justifies the means by posting this type of stuff.

[snova4]

With the Hawks logo that was circulating, I can say this, my wife is a multiple time graduate of UND, born and raised in Grand Forks, and it took me until this final vote to convince her that the Blackhawks logo that was circulating had less than a snowball's chance in **** of ever being the logo. Now, someone that knows Kelley as well as her, and understands this process took that long to convince that logo wouldn't happen, how many others do you think are voting based on that logo? I'd say at a minimum, a solid 50% of the Fighting Hawk vote. That's what saddens me, because you think their are people mad about this process now, just wait until they finally realize that the logo they thought was attached to that nickname is not being used.

[choyt3]

http://www.valleynewslive.com/home/headlines/UND-Nickname-Ralph-Engelstads-possible-response-to-controversy-may-surprise-you-346958212.html

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

With the Hawks logo that was circulating, I can say this, my wife is a multiple time graduate of UND, born and raised in Grand Forks, and it took me until this final vote to convince her that the Blackhawks logo that was circulating had less than a snowball's chance in **** of ever being the logo. Now, someone that knows Kelley as well as her, and understands this process took that long to convince that logo wouldn't happen, how many others do you think are voting based on that logo? I'd say at a minimum, a solid 50% of the Fighting Hawk vote. That's what saddens me, because you think their are people mad about this process now, just wait until they finally realize that the logo they thought was attached to that nickname is not being used.

But let's just be honest and say you pulled that 50% number out of your butt.

I'm voting for Riders but inventing statistics does nothing for me.

[jdub27]

http://www.valleynewslive.com/home/headlines/UND-Nickname-Ralph-Engelstads-possible-response-to-controversy-may-surprise-you-346958212.html

 

The deniers will be out in full force on these quotes because they sure shoots a ton of holes in all those "Ralph would have done xxxxx" theories:

Reporter: “I’m guessing Ralph Engelstad would have had some rough language if he’d known Fighting Hawks or Roughriders was going to be UND’s new nickname?”
Earl Strinden, Engelstad Board of Directors: “He wouldn’t have been happy. Many of us are not happy. But Ralph would never do anything to do harm to the University of North Dakota.”

 

However, Ralph Engelstad was apparently aware the winds of political correctness were already changing. Strinden revealed today that during a meeting in the late 1990’s with then President Kupchella and Engelstad in Las Vegas, that Engelstad suggested the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo be kept for 5 years and then changed.

 

[Shawn-O]

  

However, Ralph Engelstad was apparently aware the winds of political correctness were already changing. Strinden revealed today that during a meeting in the late 1990’s with then President Kupchella and Engelstad in Las Vegas, that Engelstad suggested the Fighting Sioux nickname and logo be kept for 5 years and then changed.

 

I think Fetch just pushed his Life Alert button.  

Edited November 12, 2015 by Shawn-O

[UNDBIZ]

  

 

I think Fetch just pushed his Life Alert button.  

[Fetch]

  

 

I think Fetch just pushed his Life alert

I won long ago by making up my mind to stay Fighting Sioux

If Ruffriders wins the split will never go away

LikE I've  said if Fighting Hawks wins it will eventually become more accepted

[fargosioux]

But let's just be honest and say you pulled that 50% number out of your butt.

I'm voting for Riders but inventing statistics does nothing for me.

Nobody will ever know, but if I had to guess, I'd say the number is closer to 50% than to the 1-3% that somebody else has suggested.

[fightingsioux4life]

I won long ago by making up my mind to stay Fighting Sioux

If Ruffriders wins the split will never go away

LikE I've  said if Fighting Hawks wins it will eventually become more accepted

I think you have that backwards.

[Fetch]

Then change ur name to fightingroughriders4life

[bigskyvikes]

With the Hawks logo that was circulating, I can say this, my wife is a multiple time graduate of UND, born and raised in Grand Forks, and it took me until this final vote to convince her that the Blackhawks logo that was circulating had less than a snowball's chance in **** of ever being the logo. Now, someone that knows Kelley as well as her, and understands this process took that long to convince that logo wouldn't happen, how many others do you think are voting based on that logo? I'd say at a minimum, a solid 50% of the Fighting Hawk vote. That's what saddens me, because you think their are people mad about this process now, just wait until they finally realize that the logo they thought was attached to that nickname is not being used.

Im willing to bet you this outrage of not getting the Blackhawks logo will NOT happen...You might dig deep and find 15 people to admit that, but 50% of the FH voters??   That hilarious!

[snova4]

Im willing to bet you this outrage of not getting the Blackhawks logo will NOT happen...You might dig deep and find 15 people to admit that, but 50% of the FH voters??   That hilarious!

If you honestly believe that logo hasn't significantly affected this voting process,I have ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you.

[Shawn-O]

Then change ur name to fightingroughriders4life

Aren't you the one always starting threads like "If Ralph were alive..." blobbety blop....did you read what Strinden said? 

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

If you honestly believe that logo hasn't significantly affected this voting process,I have ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you.

With the melting polar ice caps and all, you never know.  Still seems more likely than thousands of UND students and alumni being as gullible as some think.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

If you honestly believe that logo hasn't significantly affected this voting process,I have ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you.

Show me proof, not conjecture

If you believe the fake FH logo determined which logo won, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. (See, I can do it too )

[bigskyvikes]

If you honestly believe that logo hasn't significantly affected this voting process,I have ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you.

If you honestly bbelieve that 50% of the vote was because of that logo I have ocean.......