choyt3 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm the Trifecta as well........maybe if they give all of us in this group 3 votes RR will win!Same here. I'd also push all 3 at RR at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I have two UND degrees. So do I get four votes (tix, donor, degree x 2)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fight on sioux Posted November 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2015 I still don't understand where all of these Fighting Hawks supporters are coming from? Still haven't met one personally... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I have two UND degrees. So do I get four votes (tix, donor, degree x 2)? A BA in Pinochle doesn't count................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I still don't understand where all of these Fighting Hawks supporters are coming from? Still haven't met one personally...This...^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I guess I don't see anyone real "giddy", I know my choices lost 3 times! But I'm ready to support the choice, and that sure looks like its going to be FH, seen as how it won the last two votesI agree. I don't see any giddyness. I see either acceptance, or the early stages of grief. Just like the no nicknamers were told to move on, the Roughriders diehards will need to do the same. But it will take some time.Go Hawks!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I still don't understand where all of these Fighting Hawks supporters are coming from? Still haven't met one personally...I'd start looking along University Avenue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1981 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 But it will take some time.I agree. It will take me some time to warm up to FH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenWing Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I agree. I don't see any giddyness. I see either acceptance, or the early stages of grief. Just like the no nicknamers were told to move on, the Roughriders diehards will need to do the same. But it will take some time.Go Hawks!!Is Chicago playing tonight? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'll never warm up to Fighting Hawks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Somewhere, maybe here, I read a description of a consultant as someone who borrows your watch to tell you what time it is and then keeps the watch. This description fits the consultants who gave us Fighting Hawks. I think this is what bothers me so much, is they are going to have a big payday at our expense of having a cliché for a name, and it took them maybe three minutes of their precious lives to come up with it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 voting should have been doled out something like this1 vote per hat you wear (Oxbow and Sic would get three votes)Donors votes weighted at 2xSeason ticket holders weighted at 1.75xAlum weighted at 1.5xStudents/faculty weighted at 1xReason being that a lot of the students aren't even familiar with the history of the university. How many students association with this place start the day they walk on campus? Too many to be making lifelong decisions for the University. An alarming number of students I've spoken with completely disagree with this logic (which describes fascination w/blackhawk logo and HowAboutWeKeepSioux). But it doesn't matter. Go Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Having to accept losing Fighting Sioux was easier for me than having to accept F. Hawks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 voting should have been doled out something like this1 vote per hat you wear (Oxbow and Sic would get three votes)Donors votes weighted at 2xSeason ticket holders weighted at 1.75xAlum weighted at 1.5xStudents/faculty weighted at 1xReason being that a lot of the students aren't even familiar with the history of the university. How many students association with this place start the day they walk on campus? Too many to be making lifelong decisions for the University. An alarming number of students I've spoken with completely disagree with this logic (which describes fascination w/blackhawk logo and HowAboutWeKeepSioux). But it doesn't matter. Go Green.students are roughly 20% of the eligible voters. Giving 80% of the eligible voters potential "extra" votes would've been viewed as grossly unfair. The frustration with the students for the outcome doesn't add up. Literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I am not saying the students should get fewer votes because they disagree with me -- I'm saying a 60 year old donor and alumn who has season tickets (has been donating for probably 30-35 years) should get more - much more - say than a snot-nosed 20 year old kid who didn't know what the University of North Dakota was two years prior. Does that seem unreasonable? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 students are roughly 20% of the eligible voters. Giving 80% of the eligible voters potential "extra" votes would've been viewed as grossly unfair. The frustration with the students for the outcome doesn't add up. Literally. Students almost live on the internet today. A lot of them, and faculty, have to use the UND system daily. It's easy for students and faculty to vote, and probably 60-80% voted. Compare that with alums who work. Many of them can't access personal items on the internet or are just so busy or to removed from the whole issue. Probably 25% voted this time, and less before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I am not saying the students should get fewer votes because they disagree with me -- I'm saying a 60 year old donor and alumn who has season tickets (has been donating for probably 30-35 years) should get more - much more - say than a snot-nosed 20 year old kid who didn't know what the University of North Dakota was two years prior. Does that seem unreasonable?What about a 22 year old student that has bled green since they were born? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I am not saying the students should get fewer votes because they disagree with me -- I'm saying a 60 year old donor and alumn who has season tickets (has been donating for probably 30-35 years) should get more - much more - say than a snot-nosed 20 year old kid who didn't know what the University of North Dakota was two years prior. Does that seem unreasonable?Yes, it is unreasonable. And the bolded part above was totally unnecessary and uncalled for. 1) We all were "snot-nosed 20 year olds" at one point and 2) I like the students better than I do a lot of the bureaucrats I have to deal with around here. Believe that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 What about a 22 year old student that has bled green since they were born?Like <1% of all students. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Like <1% of all students.And you know this how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 And you know this how?simple statistics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I am not saying the students should get fewer votes because they disagree with me -- I'm saying a 60 year old donor and alumn who has season tickets (has been donating for probably 30-35 years) should get more - much more - say than a snot-nosed 20 year old kid who didn't know what the University of North Dakota was two years prior. Does that seem unreasonable? Yes, it does seem extremely unfair and unreasonable to have age discrimination based voting. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. And as I stated, the numbers don't lie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 simple statisticsThen please provide them. Oh, that's right, you are really just assuming you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Other than releases from the SID's office and maybe some visitor scoreboards, I don't think we'll see much in the way of "Fighting Hawks" for a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 What about a 22 year old student that has bled green since they were born?Exceptions to every rule -- accounting for that <1% of the population is what led to the removal of the Sioux name. Use that reasoning if you'd like.Yes, it is unreasonable. And the bolded part above was totally unnecessary and uncalled for. 1) We all were "snot-nosed 20 year olds" at one point and 2) I like the students better than I do a lot of the bureaucrats I have to deal with around here. Believe that.I like some students too. We all were snot-nosed 20 year olds, just like we were all 4 year old kids needing discipline, 8th grade kids being sent to the principles office, and new grads at our first jobs -- doesn't mean they possess the same perspective, or hold the school in the same esteem as one who has been associated with the school for longer. Does your parents marriage of 50 years represent greater value than your marriage of 1 year? In a similar way, the association with the university is more valued the longer it goes back, at least in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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