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What is the ratio of opportunities for women at NDSU at compared to what their student body percentage is at?  How does that ratio compare with other D-1 institutions?

You didnt answer the question. Are all of your sports funded to the max allowed by the NCAA? A simple yes or no will suffice.

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You didnt answer the question. Are all of your sports funded to the max allowed by the NCAA? A simple yes or no will suffice.

maybe he's waiting for one of you bison geniuses to answer the question about your swimming, diving, and hockey programs, first.

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maybe he's waiting for one of you bison geniuses to answer the question about your swimming, diving, and hockey programs, first.

What kind of a question is that considering we dont offer those sports. I realize he is trying to walk it to a preconceived conclusion as if its some type of moral equivalency. Fact is he answered a question with a question. Kind of disingenuous dont you think?

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What kind of a question is that considering we dont offer those sports. I realize he is trying to walk it to a preconceived conclusion as if its some type of moral equivalency. Fact is he answered a question with a question. Kind of disingenuous dont you think?

regarding funding fcoa, UND has more options right now than ndsu does because it supports more sports than required.  

If some sports are cut, or some of the sports deemed less important get their budgets trimmed, I fail to see why you would give two craps about it.  

Also, The "moral equivalency" IS the argument.  But you dismiss morals as an invalid argument because you're an ndsu rube, so i believe we've all reached an impasse.  

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Every woman athlete at NDSU on scholarship (they are at the max in all sports) is getting a scholarship and FCOA. Can UND say that? 

Yes, every woman at UND on scholarship (they are at the max in all sports) is getting a scholarship and FCOA. 

And that is a lot more women's scholarships than NDSUA&AS. So that is answered. Now will you please go away? 

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On ‎9‎/‎18‎/‎2015 at 11:57 AM, Herd said:

NDSU will need to raise $350k or less by Sep 2016.   Team Makers will eat that up and spit it out.   

Care to make any revisions on your prediction?

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What a crock of bull if student fees go up to pay for FCOA for sports no one follows or care about like track, soccer swimming , women's hockey, baseball. 

College is about getting an education and not about sports. This crazy student debt is ridiculous as it is.

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11 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

What a crock of bull if student fees go up to pay for FCOA for sports no one follows or care about like track, soccer swimming , women's hockey, baseball. 

College is about getting an education and not about sports. This crazy student debt is ridiculous as it is.

At this point, UND's students subsidize a larger percentage of the athletic budget than NDSU's students (13.2% vs. 5.5% or 6.6% depending on what numbers you use). This increase would put NDSU's subsidy at a slightly higher level (~14% using current budget numbers). While I partially agree that student fees are helping subsidize sports that most don't necessarily care about, it isn't as simple as just shutting down those sports, most (but not all) of them are required by either the NCAA (Title IX) or the conference.

The amusing part is that NDSU came out a few months ago and stated that FCOA was going to be fully covered through private donations. Now all of the sudden their athletic department is requesting an additional $1.5 million from student fees and citing that travel/equipment/supply costs are suddenly going to skyrocket even though they just requested an increase 2 years ago that they stated would be sufficient for the next 5 years. Strange coincidence.

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Just now, UND-1 said:

Why lie about what it's for then?

Did I lie about anything?  How do you know anyone is lying? Link to where this is going to fcoa? I'm guessing rumors and personal opinions are considered fact over here?

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Just now, Texas rancher said:

Did I lie about anything?  How do you know anyone is lying? Link to where this is going to fcoa? I'm guessing rumors and personal opinions are considered fact over here?

Well, 2 years ago they stated the increase at that time was sufficient for the next 5 years. Now all of the sudden they need more money. What else has changed in that time frame?

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1 minute ago, jdub27 said:

Well, 2 years ago they stated the increase at that time was sufficient for the next 5 years. Now all of the sudden they need more money. What else has changed in that time frame?

Your right, prices for plane rides, new equipment, increased travel, bills in general always stay constant! Carry on with your witch hunt skarpohl.

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1 minute ago, Texas rancher said:

Your right, prices for plane rides, new equipment, increased travel, bills in general always stay constant! Carry on with your witch hunt skarpohl.

Pretty sure they would have more money to pay for that stuff if they didn't spend it on FCOA...

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1 minute ago, Texas rancher said:

Your right, prices for plane rides, new equipment, increased travel, bills in general always stay constant! Carry on with your witch hunt skarpohl.

So are you saying NDSU athletics doesn't understand how to make budgets/projections or that those bills magically went up $1.5 million/year and no one saw it coming?

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2 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

So are you saying NDSU athletics doesn't understand how to make budgets/projections or that those bills magically went up $1.5 million/year and no one saw it coming?

Just trying to get our numbers up to where ndsu's conference mates are would be my guess

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4 minutes ago, Texas rancher said:

Wow, you guys would throw a fit if ndsu used to many straws at the milkshake table.

You serious?  Have you seen how active the dedicated UND threads are over at Bisonville?  You know we are right about this.  Admit it.

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