Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Let's be honest, if South Dakota State was the first to offer, do you think the end result on schools offering FCOA would be any different?No, but then I'd be telling you that the only reason you did it was because of SDSU . . . and you'd be making up some BS like you were going to do it all along, and the timing was just right at that time, and it had nothing to do with SDSU. Doooh-K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Which is the same as saying "Me Too" after NDSU announce FCOA for all sports.Do you want a pat on the back for making the announcement 6 days ahead of UND? Does NDSU have all the money secures yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlsiouxfan Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Let's be honest, NDSU is meeting the requirements set forth by the ncaa. Their athletics scholarship plan is certiified by the ncaa. Is that honest?Let's be honest . . . UND offered FCOA for hockey with no intention of doing FCOA for all sports. Faison acted like the cat that swallowed the canary when he said that UND was doing FCOA for hockey where they were needed to compete at the highest level. He had zero intention of doing FCOA for anything but hockey. He certainly didn't need it in the BSC, still doesn't. Let's be honest.Let's be honest . . . NDSU said "who cares that UND is offering FCOA for hockey, that doesn't affect us, we will do what's right for us." NDSU looked at FB, BB, Wresting, T&F and other sports and said that everything needs to be included based on recruiting against FBS level teams in all of these sports. NDSU received a matching donation offer for 3 years from a doner which put them in a good spot to easily achieve the 750k needed starting in 2016.Let's be honest . . . when UND saw NDSU was doing FCOA for all sports, Faison had a steady stream of coaches in his office. Then he gulped and said, Me Too . . . and went to find a scissors. Let's be honest. So is NDSU's policy in other parts of the university that women should have half the opportunities they afford men? It would seem so. Maybe they should put that on a recruiting poster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't know the exact breakdown, but that's pretty accurate from what I've seen. Total of 700-750k.Can't make it up. You are OK with that breakdown but are getting after UND for announcing 6 days after NDSU that they are offering too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Do you want a pat on the back for making the announcement 6 days ahead of UND? Does NDSU have all the money secures yet? No, there's a specific plan for 1/2 of it for 3 years, the rest will be fundraising. Does UND have all the money sources? No, no they don't, they are working on it, just like NDSU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 No, there's a specific plan for 1/2 of it for 3 years, the rest will be fundraising. Does UND have all the money sources? No, no they don't, they are working on it, just like NDSU.Yah, so go away then. What is your point even? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 So is NDSU's policy in other parts of the university that women should have half the opportunities they afford men? It would seem so. Maybe they should put that on a recruiting poster?NDSU follows the activities and interests outline set forth by the ncaa, and are certified to this outline. Is this not correct? NDSU has 8 womens sports, all of which are fully funded and all of which will have FCOA. Are all of UND womens sports fully funded like I'm sure hockey is? Will UND need to cut sports or strip schollies in order to pay FCOA for the scholarships that are offered? We will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 No, there's a specific plan for 1/2 of it for 3 years, the rest will be fundraising. Does UND have all the money sources? No, no they don't, they are working on it, just like NDSU. I guess I don't understand what your trying to imply about UNDs timing when NDSU doesn't even have the money secure yet for their plan. Shouldn't you be more concerned about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) NDSU follows the activities and interests outline set forth by the ncaa, and are certified to this outline. Is this not correct? NDSU has 8 womens sports, all of which are fully funded and all of which will have FCOA. Are all of UND womens sports fully funded like I'm sure hockey is? Will UND need to cut sports or strip schollies in order to pay FCOA for the scholarships that are offered? We will see. It remains to be seen. Edited September 18, 2015 by homer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I guess I don't understand what your trying to imply about UNDs timing when NDSU doesn't even have the money secure yet for their plan. Shouldn't you be more concerned about that? NDSU will need to raise $350k or less by Sep 2016. Team Makers will eat that up and spit it out. I'm not implying anything, just stating facts. UND said "me Too" to FCOA six days after Ndsu did. I think that says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 NDSU will need to raise $350k or less by Sep 2016. Team Makers will eat that up and spit it out. I'm not implying anything, just stating facts. UND said "me Too" to FCOA six days after Ndsu did. I think that says it all.You really have a needled*ck complex. Was it a race? UND and NDSU are #2 and #3 in the entire country to announce and you are acting like we are followers. USD and SDSU are followers then-BIGTIME. Do you drive a big truck with accessories, by chance? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 NDSU will need to raise $350k or less by Sep 2016. Team Makers will eat that up and spit it out. I'm not implying anything, just stating facts. UND said "me Too" to FCOA six days after Ndsu did. I think that says it all.It says they can offer the same amount in recruiting as the schools they will be recruiting against. Nothing less than that. Does a recruit care if this announcement came 6 days early or late? How much did the wooden bleachers save in the SHAC? Surprised Teammakers couldn't eat that up and spit that amount out for a brand new arena. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It says they can offer the same amount in recruiting as the schools they will be recruiting against. Nothing less than that. Does a recruit care if this announcement came 6 days early or late? How much did the wooden bleachers save in the SHAC? Surprised Teammakers couldn't eat that up and spit that amount out for a brand new arena. Why are people questioning how NDSU will raise the $350/year, when UND needs to raise $900 and might have to cut sports to do it. That issue would be much more concerning to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It says they can offer the same amount in recruiting as the schools they will be recruiting against. Nothing less than that. Does a recruit care if this announcement came 6 days early or late? How much did the wooden bleachers save in the SHAC? Surprised Teammakers couldn't eat that up and spit that amount out for a brand new arena. No, it doesn't really matter does it. But at least be honest about why UND did it. Faison would still be fat and happy with FCOA for hockey only if Ndsu wasn't doing FCOA for all sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Why are people questioning how NDSU will raise the $350/year, when UND needs to raise $900 and might have to cut sports to do it. That issue would be much more concerning to me.Because you keep questioning how UND is going to fund it. Who cares? The FCOA is going to get paid for and how is none of your concern. Pay attention to your own program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 No, it doesn't really matter does it. But at least be honest about why UND did it. Faison would still be fat and happy with FCOA for hockey only if Ndsu wasn't doing FCOA for all sports.And he was honest about that when they announced it for hockey. They were going to monitor the schools they recruit against on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Why are people questioning how NDSU will raise the $350/year, when UND needs to raise $900 and might have to cut sports to do it. That issue would be much more concerning to me.Cause you seem to think $350,000/year is going to be a walk in the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Because you keep questioning how UND is going to fund it. Who cares? The FCOA is going to get paid for and how is none of your concern. Pay attention to yourSo, you need to know exactly how NDSU is funding FCOA, but at UND it will just get paid, no big deal, nothing to see here.Compared to $900k and cutting sports, $350 is a walk in the park. Edited September 18, 2015 by Herd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 You really have a needled*ck complex. Was it a race? UND and NDSU are #2 and #3 in the entire country to announce and you are acting like we are followers. USD and SDSU are followers then-BIGTIME. Do you drive a big truck with accessories, by chance?His truck has a "No Fat Goats" bumper sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Cause you seem to think $350,000/year is going to be a walk in the park. Thanks for pointing out the dirt in my eye. if you need some help with log in yours, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 You are the one making a big deal about announcing first, and are claiming UND had no intention of doing FCOA until after FU said they are. Yet, FU has no concrete plan in place to fund 1/2 for three years and 100% after that for eternity. If you can't connect the dots on how nonsensical your argument is, I would suggest getting out of the manure pit while you still have some of your faculties; those pits are dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks for pointing out the dirt in my eye. if you need some help with log in yours, let me know.old wooden bleachers, brand new facility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks for pointing out the dirt in my eye. if you need some help with log in yours, let me know.That's some high-end smack there. What are you, 80 years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 You are the one making a big deal about announcing first, and are claiming UND had no intention of doing FCOA until after FU said they are. Yet, FU has no concrete plan in place to fund 1/2 for three years and 100% after that for eternity. If you can't connect the dots on how nonsensical your argument is, I would suggest getting out of the manure pit while you still have some of your faculties; those pits are dangerous.UND has to raise nearly 3x what NDSU needs to raise to fund FCOA in '16, and may need to cut sports. Neither school has a concrete plan, both just announced. Why is that a problem at NDSu and not at UND? I'd rather be raising $350 than $900, and I rather not be worrying about whether or not I need to cut my sport offerings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Why are people questioning how NDSU will raise the $350/year, when UND needs to raise $900 and might have to cut sports to do it. That issue would be much more concerning to me.You would be concerned if ndsu started hinting it may cut men's swimming and diving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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