sprig Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) I think the targeting aspect is very important when they are looking at things like this. He had no intention of gaining possession of the puck, just nailing the player, and he came in with his elbow high. Just like the NFL, you do that, and right or wrong, they will tend on the side of player protection. whoa there, now you're making things up. There absolutely was no high elbow Edited November 4, 2015 by sprig 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) I think the targeting aspect is very important when they are looking at things like this. He had no intention of gaining possession of the puck, just nailing the player, and he came in with his elbow high. Just like the NFL, you do that, and right or wrong, they will tend on the side of player protection. Checking is allowed. He didn't hit the head and he didn't leave his feet. He was already kicked out of that game (which probably shouldn't have happened either). Terrible suspension. Edited November 4, 2015 by scpa0305 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 whoa there, now you're making things up. There absolutely was no high elbowHave you seen this hit from many angles? I cannot see from the angle given whether he connected or not, but I did see him take his hand off the stick and bring his arm up. I don't know if it hit or not, but I can't see how everyone is so sure of themselves from that clip, when other people see it different. I guess at the very least, the league saw it different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Barely looks like a penalty, let alone a suspension.Saw no elbow come up. Didn't leave his feet.Might have barely (accidentally) caught has the bottom of the CC's helmet with his shoulder. ( I don't even think he touched the CC's players helmet/head You can see the CC player turning his head right before the hit in preparing). With most(if not all) contact being shoulder to shoulder.Definitely wasn't malicious with intent to injure. Edited November 4, 2015 by Cratter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Have you seen this hit from many angles? I cannot see from the angle given whether he connected or not, but I did see him take his hand off the stick and bring his arm up. I don't know if it hit or not, but I can't see how everyone is so sure of themselves from that clip, when other people see it different. I guess at the very least, the league saw it different. Nope, but guessing this is the only angle the league saw as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) That is Insane if that's a penalty Stuff like this needs to be reviewed by people who really know hockeyIf it is confirmed - hockey will never be the same & folks who loved the game the way it was might as well die or move south far from hockey - but death would be far less painful than seeing the game become a PC pansy game Edited November 4, 2015 by Fetch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So I know the 3 misconducts = 1 game suspension. but what is the procedures after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So I know the 3 misconducts = 1 game suspension. but what is the procedures after that?Great question, I was wondering the same thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I believe its a 1 game per misconduct after the 2nd one, so for every misconduct he gets from here on out will cost him a game. Usually you get two strikes before being suspended on the third but he got unlucky and got a suspension tacked onto his second misconduct by the league.22.2 Suspensions - A player who receives three (3) game misconduct penalties in the same season (including exhibition games) shall not be permitted to play in the team’s next regular-season or tournament game against an NCAA member institution. For each additional game misconduct penalty (e.g. four, five, etc.) assessed to the same player in the same season, the player shall be suspended for one (1) additional game. This shall not be part of a progressive penalty structure. Exhibition games cannot be used to fulfill the suspension for this violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted November 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2015 Could be worse, he could miss a game against a D-1 team. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Could be worse, he could miss a game against a D-1 team.Nicely played! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Gotta go with GFHockey on this one. That's just hockey...wow...i guess they want to play ringette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Gotta go with GFHockey on this one. That's just hockey...wow...i guess they want to play ringetteI agree it was a bad call to suspend him. Penalty on the ice...sure. But what would you and gfhockey be saying if this happened to Cags? I think the explanation above says it all. "He did not try to take away the puck" if they look at it that way, its a penalty. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ray77 Posted November 5, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2015 I agree it was a bad call to suspend him. Penalty on the ice...sure. But what would you and gfhockey be saying if this happened to Cags? I think the explanation above says it all. "He did not try to take away the puck" if they look at it that way, its a penalty. IMO. I'll play both sides on this one....Sioux fans would be calling for a suspension if this had happened against a Sioux player, no doubt. I have no problem with this being called a penalty...suspension though? Not sure.However, saying that he didn't try to take the puck away isn't valid. You don't have to. There is checking in hockey, and it's a part of the game to make physical contact with a player to separate him from the puck. 1st man plays the body, 2nd man takes the puck. Caggulia doesn't have to "go for the puck" when making contact. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxman Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 However, saying that he didn't try to take the puck away isn't valid. You don't have to. There is checking in hockey, and it's a part of the game to make physical contact with a player to separate him from the puck. 1st man plays the body, 2nd man takes the puck. Caggulia doesn't have to "go for the puck" when making contact.Bingo! I was going to point that out but you beat me to it. It is a team game and strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'll play both sides on this one....Sioux fans would be calling for a suspension if this had happened against a Sioux player, no doubt. I have no problem with this being called a penalty...suspension though? Not sure.However, saying that he didn't try to take the puck away isn't valid. You don't have to. There is checking in hockey, and it's a part of the game to make physical contact with a player to separate him from the puck. 1st man plays the body, 2nd man takes the puck. Caggulia doesn't have to "go for the puck" when making contact.Agreed, him not "going for the puck" makes zero difference. You're allowed to check someone that possesses the puck(legally of course). It does not factor into a penalty and definitely should not factor into a suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I think it just looks bad because he was leaning to his left and had him lined up for a doozy of a hit, but looks to me as if he kept his elbow down and straightened up. Made the hit less but brought the contact to head into the situation. I am very new at video reffing and I can't afford Holiday Inn Express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Great question, I was wondering the same thing...One game for each game misconduct after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I'll play both sides on this one....Sioux fans would be calling for a suspension if this had happened against a Sioux player, no doubt. I have no problem with this being called a penalty...suspension though? Not sure.However, saying that he didn't try to take the puck away isn't valid. You don't have to. There is checking in hockey, and it's a part of the game to make physical contact with a player to separate him from the puck. 1st man plays the body, 2nd man takes the puck. Caggulia doesn't have to "go for the puck" when making contact.Great point, but you know I quoted someone else and said I agreed the suspension was wrong, right?Never thought of it that way though, makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I think most of us agree this was an unjustified suspension. And most of us probably also agree that it is too bad some of the clean, heavy hitting in the game is being outlawed. And that is interesting discussion for winter meetings and whatever seasonal meetings the heads of officials have. But the real issue on the ground for our guys is how you play smart so those officiating decisions do not increase the chance that they will lose. As fast as this game is played, and with the current enforcement goals of protecting players, that hit will get you the box every single time. Wrong call upon slow motion review? Probably. But the penalty will be called and everybody knows it. And nobody can act surprised that Cags got the dressing room for it either, right or wrong. What counts is not whether the call was justified but how the players adjust to an environment they all know exists. This team is good. They have speed and skill up and down the lineup, great defense, and some snipers. They need to play physical but smart, and that hit, while legit, was not particularly smart IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodbuster Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I think most of us agree this was an unjustified suspension. And most of us probably also agree that it is too bad some of the clean, heavy hitting in the game is being outlawed. And that is interesting discussion for winter meetings and whatever seasonal meetings the heads of officials have. But the real issue on the ground for our guys is how you play smart so those officiating decisions do not increase the chance that they will lose. As fast as this game is played, and with the current enforcement goals of protecting players, that hit will get you the box every single time. Wrong call upon slow motion review? Probably. But the penalty will be called and everybody knows it. And nobody can act surprised that Cags got the dressing room for it either, right or wrong. What counts is not whether the call was justified but how the players adjust to an environment they all know exists. This team is good. They have speed and skill up and down the lineup, great defense, and some snipers. They need to play physical but smart, and that hit, while legit, was not particularly smart IMO. Smart is something that's absolutely essential in the present mind-set of today's college hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I agree it was a bad call to suspend him. Penalty on the ice...sure. But what would you and gfhockey be saying if this happened to Cags? I think the explanation above says it all. "He did not try to take away the puck" if they look at it that way, its a penalty. IMO. I wouldn't be upset if he had gotten 2 minutes...upset if he'd gotten five...really upset on a misconduct...a DQ?? REALLY...for that??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yzerman19 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) giving me short side upper...he should be further out of his crease : ) Edited November 11, 2015 by yzerman19 added some color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 or maybe that's a height issue : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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