bison73 Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) You still haven't given any proof of anything that has actually been cancelled, or even delayed. Everyone knows that the 2nd phase of the practice facility is delayed as they wait for fundraising. We also know that the EERC has an ongoing deficit of $1-2,000,000 that they have been working on for a couple of years. That would be a significant part of the $5,000,000. Beyond that they are developing plans on how to approach the shortfall. As was mentioned in the article, part of the problem was that the budget was developed before the legislature met. The legislature limited the tuition increase to 2.5%. An increase of 3.7% would have covered another large chunk of the shortfall. You are trying to claim that there is a huge budget problem at UND, and that they were hiding it. The problem isn't nearly as big as you claim and hasn't been hidden by anyone.For some reason you think this short fall only has to do with the athletic department. You want me to name the company and the project proposals that have been delayed? If I did that what are the chances of that company doing business with UND again? Edited October 11, 2015 by bison73 Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 For some reason you think this short fall only has to do with the athletic department. You want me to name the company and the project proposals that have been delayed? If I did that what are the chances of that company doing business with UND again? I talked about the EERC, the total budget of UND, and the general fund and tuition budget of UND. None of those have anything to do with the athletic department (other than the fact that the athletic budget is a very small part of the total budget). The athletic department budget is approximately $21,000,000 and the budgets I discussed are several hundred million. I mentioned the practice facility because it is the only project that comes to mind that we know has been delayed. The Medical school is in progress, that's a $124 million project. The addition and remodeling of the law school is complete. The remodeling and addition to the Wilkerson Dining facility is completed or close. The new facility attached to the Aviation School is in progress. They just completed a parking lot project on 6th Avenue North. It sure sounds like they are delaying a lot of large projects, doesn't it?Project proposals are often delayed while financing issues are worked out. It happens in business and it happens in government. If you and your buddy haven't figured that out then maybe he shouldn't be in business. For instance, I was talking to someone I know at a local plumbing and HVAC company. They have several projects they are waiting for, projects that they are sure they are getting the bid on but haven't gotten a go ahead. They had hoped to start on the projects this fall, but now they don't know if they will start until spring. We didn't go into specifics, but I don't think that any of them are at UND. You don't have to name the company, but it would give you some credibility if you named a project. And even if you did name the company, I really doubt that doing so on a sports forum is going to do anything to that company's chances of doing business with UND. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Being the tuition increase was capped at 2.5%, that pretty much guarantees NDSU has to be short also since they have same amount of students, no? Or did they ask for only 2.5%?No, no, no! Have you forgotten already? NDSU is swimming in cash (like Scrooge McDuck) and can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants. Never, ever doubt the infallibility of the Imperial Cass-Clay County media conglomerates. They know all and see all. 1 Quote
bison73 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I talked about the EERC, the total budget of UND, and the general fund and tuition budget of UND. None of those have anything to do with the athletic department (other than the fact that the athletic budget is a very small part of the total budget). The athletic department budget is approximately $21,000,000 and the budgets I discussed are several hundred million. I mentioned the practice facility because it is the only project that comes to mind that we know has been delayed. The Medical school is in progress, that's a $124 million project. The addition and remodeling of the law school is complete. The remodeling and addition to the Wilkerson Dining facility is completed or close. The new facility attached to the Aviation School is in progress. They just completed a parking lot project on 6th Avenue North. It sure sounds like they are delaying a lot of large projects, doesn't it?Project proposals are often delayed while financing issues are worked out. It happens in business and it happens in government. If you and your buddy haven't figured that out then maybe he shouldn't be in business. For instance, I was talking to someone I know at a local plumbing and HVAC company. They have several projects they are waiting for, projects that they are sure they are getting the bid on but haven't gotten a go ahead. They had hoped to start on the projects this fall, but now they don't know if they will start until spring. We didn't go into specifics, but I don't think that any of them are at UND. You don't have to name the company, but it would give you some credibility if you named a project. And even if you did name the company, I really doubt that doing so on a sports forum is going to do anything to that company's chances of doing business with UND.Serious? Come on you know better than that. All it would take is one phone call, text or email. Cant believe you actually believe that. Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Serious? Come on you know better than that. All it would take is one phone call, text or email. Cant believe you actually believe that.I can't believe that you are so paranoid. Projects are put on bid for a reason, and someone reporting information legally (remember we have open records laws in North Dakota) isn't going to get in the way unless the person making the decision is petty and vindictive. Being petty and vindictive while making decisions on public projects is a good way to get in trouble. Of course, if that is your normal state of mind then you probably think that everyone reacts the same way. Quote
bison73 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 I can't believe that you are so paranoid. Projects are put on bid for a reason, and someone reporting information legally (remember we have open records laws in North Dakota) isn't going to get in the way unless the person making the decision is petty and vindictive. Being petty and vindictive while making decisions on public projects is a good way to get in trouble. Of course, if that is your normal state of mind then you probably think that everyone reacts the same way.Not paranoid at all. But nice try. Now we can wait for the other shoe to drop. Quote
jdub27 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Not paranoid at all. But nice try. Now we can wait for the other shoe to drop.And what exactly is this other shoe going to be? So far the only thing that has came out is information that is 6 months old and has nothing to do with the claims you were making. There is a lot of connected people who post on here and everything is public information to begin with yet somehow a FargoU fan has the inside scoop that he heard second or third hand. Sure thing... 2 Quote
FSSD Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Seriously 73 start another thread to talk about budget stuff.. 1 Quote
bison73 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Seriously 73 start another thread to talk about budget stuff..That is a reasonable request. Will do. Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Seriously 73 start another thread to talk about budget stuff..or, don't bother since 50 posts later, you have produced zero evidence backing your original claims. 1 Quote
choyt3 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 For some reason you think this short fall only has to do with the athletic department. You want me to name the company and the project proposals that have been delayed? If I did that what are the chances of that company doing business with UND again?About as likely as the chances of this person still being your "friend" after you name the company. I would guess you've already gone too far with what you "know" in that person's eyes and that they regret telling you anything. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Not paranoid at all. But nice try. Now we can wait for the other shoe to drop.Will it be as bad as when (figuratively) Imelda Marcos' shoe closet tipped over during the Chapman administration at NDSU? Quote
jdub27 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Will it be as bad as when (figuratively) Imelda Marcos' shoe closet tipped over during the Chapman administration at NDSU? I haven't heard UND threatening to shut down any child care facilities so it clearly can't be that bad. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 User Actions FollowPat Sweeney@PSweeneyNDHere's what the UND High Performance Center looks like today. What a shame. Heard the track was all supposed to be the darker color, but they had to mix in the cheap lighter-colored lanes due to budget cuts..... 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 User Actions FollowPat Sweeney@PSweeneyNDHere's what the UND High Performance Center looks like today. What a shame. Heard the track was all supposed to be the darker color, but they had to mix in the cheap lighter-colored lanes due to budget cuts..... I guess I never noticed that the endzones were blank...in a couple weeks they could fill the north one with either fighting/rough and the south one with nodaks/riders??? Quote
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 I guess I never noticed that the endzones were blank...in a couple weeks they could fill the north one with either fighting/rough and the south one with nodaks/riders???With those field dimensions, I think you'd be stuck with GHTI, OUG, ODAK or IDER. Quote
bison73 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 About as likely as the chances of this person still being your "friend" after you name the company. I would guess you've already gone too far with what you "know" in that person's eyes and that they regret telling you anything. Again you couldnt be further from the truth. Quote
Cratter Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) What we do know is that they don't care that much because they continue to work at UND regardless. Otherwise the first thing you do is call KVLY's Whistleblower hotline.701-237-6576 Edited October 20, 2015 by Cratter Quote
jdub27 Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Grand Opening of the HPC open the public tonight. If you want to see what a game-changer looks like, I'd recommend checking it out. 1 Quote
bincitysioux Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Very impressive building. Should be a great asset for many sports. Quote
dakotadan Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 As will iHow was the view from the %fodc suite? Quote
jdub27 Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 The HPC is incredibly impressive and absolutely massive. Everything it was advertised to be and more. The coaches were all grinning ear to ear with very good reason, absolute game changer.Need to work hard on getting Phase II completed so the weight room, locker rooms and coach's offices can be built. 1 Quote
homer Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 The HPC is incredibly impressive and absolutely massive. Everything it was advertised to be and more. The coaches were all grinning ear to ear with very good reason.Need to work hard on getting Phase II completed so the weight room, locker rooms and coach's offices can be built.did they give any indication on where they are at with fund raising for Phase 2? Quote
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