scpa0305 Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 I was trying to throw Bjugstad a bone- he did score 25 goals last year and has a knack for the net down low. There is no real comparison between an NHL all-star, conn smythe winning, arguably best two-way center in the NHL and a college kid with potential. What always stood out to me on JT in college, was not his hands per se, but rather his perfect positional play and excellent all around skill. Not saying he couldn't shoot (ask Frazee at the WJC) or wasn't a great passer...he had all of the tools. What stands out to me on Bjugstad is that he has great hands and a big body. Maybe its because it is unexpected or because Toewser did everything so well that it makes Bjugstad's hands stand out to me. Bjugstad will be a very good NHL player, I believe. But I he'll never be what Toews is....as far as all around player...face of the league, etc. Bjugstad probably has a few 30 goal seasons in him with that heavy shot and size. Quote
yzerman19 Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 I agree that Bjugstad will be a very good NHL player Bjugstad will be a very good NHL player, I believe. But I he'll never be what Toews is....as far as all around player...face of the league, etc. Bjugstad probably has a few 30 goal seasons in him with that heavy shot and size. Agree. Toews will arguably be the greatest NHLer ever to have played college hockey. Quote
Mariucci Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Rau is super overrated. Not sure why you think that. He produced big time in high school, went straight to the USHL and led in playoff scoring, then had over 40 pts as a frosh. Why is he overrated? Quote
tnt Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Berry is our counter to Guentzel! Only, we don't have quite as much room for improvement, after all Cary Eades is no John Hill. Out of respect for Cary, mentioning them in the same sentence seems very odd. Quote
willythekid Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Not sure why you think that. He produced big time in high school, went straight to the USHL and led in playoff scoring, then had over 40 pts as a frosh. Why is he overrated? I agree with Mariucci on this one... Rau gave UND fits last year and has talent in spades. Quote
yzerman19 Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Rau may not ever skate in the NHL, but he has skill. He is another guy with a nose for the net...some guys, loose pucks just find their sticks when goalies are out of position. Quote
Mariucci Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Rau may not ever skate in the NHL, but he has skill. He is another guy with a nose for the net...some guys, loose pucks just find their sticks when goalies are out of position. Yeah Im certainly not convinced he'll play in the NHL but he's one heck of a college player, at least so far. Spehar had a a great freshman season as well so you never know. Quote
SiouxFanatic Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Zemgus Girgensons signed with the Buffalo Sabres. That's a blow to Vermont. Even if the kid would've most likely been a one and done. Schlossman says he'll most likely end up in the CHL. Quote
Sodbuster Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 Zemgus Girgensons signed with the Buffalo Sabres. That's a blow to Vermont. Even if the kid would've most likely been a one and done. Schlossman says he'll most likely end up in the CHL. Zemgus Girgensons?! That's one heck of a name! Quote
Siouxman Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Sooooooo, if the Gophers have a good year in 2012-2013, wouldn't they primarily be John Hill recruits?? Quote
Wilbur Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 I hate to give a gopher player too much credit, but Rau was tremendous for them. Got underneath the skin of other players, scored some pretty big goals, and had a great freshman year. If Grimaldi has the type of Freshman year that Rau had I think UND wins the league. If he has a better one, special things.... Quote
MissSioux85 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Mike Guentzel's son Jake has committed to UNO for 2013 Quote
siouxforce19 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Rau reminds me of Ryan Duncan We must be watching different players. Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Not sure why you think that. He produced big time in high school, went straight to the USHL and led in playoff scoring, then had over 40 pts as a frosh. Why is he overrated? I just think he is, as far as an NHL prospect goes. He seems to get himself in very opportunistic positions but that is it. He is terrible in his own zone, is not overly quick, and plays with about the same physicality as basketball player. Not to mention he doesn't have a quick or hard shot. I read some people comparing him to Duncan.....this is fair, however, there is one difference...Duncan had an extremely quick shot. He could get it off quickly. They both had the pleasure of playing with great college players. Back to Rau, he played with arguably the top three college player in the league and Budish....who is greatly underrated. Bjugstad is 6'6'' 220 (and very gifted) and Budish is either 6'1'' or 6'2'' and like 230 (and very gifted). Just saying, not many people agree with me but let's see what he ends up doing. I have seen Rau up close though, he looks pretty immature physically to me so he may grow more and pack on more lbs, that would help him tremendously and I would take back everything I just wrote. Right now he looks 16 years old. Quote
siouxnews Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 I just think he is, as far as an NHL prospect goes. He seems to get himself in very opportunistic positions but that is it. He is terrible in his own zone, is not overly quick, and plays with about the same physicality as basketball player. Not to mention he doesn't have a quick or hard shot. http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6uvz0sjN11robtyu.gif Quote
Wilbur Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 I can't see the Rau-Duncan comparison.....I guess you could argue the finding the soft spot in the zone and finding the back of the net, but thats just about all.... As far as speed and a quick shot goes....I think he'll be okay.... http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/goldengopherhky-goal-kyle-rau-on-a-rush-into-the-undmhock-about-final-five-semifinal-north-dakota-vs-minnesota-on-fox-sports-north Quote
willythekid Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 I just think he is, as far as an NHL prospect goes. He seems to get himself in very opportunistic positions but that is it. He is terrible in his own zone, is not overly quick, and plays with about the same physicality as basketball player. Not to mention he doesn't have a quick or hard shot. I read some people comparing him to Duncan.....this is fair, however, there is one difference...Duncan had an extremely quick shot. He could get it off quickly. They both had the pleasure of playing with great college players. Back to Rau, he played with arguably the top three college player in the league and Budish....who is greatly underrated. Bjugstad is 6'6'' 220 (and very gifted) and Budish is either 6'1'' or 6'2'' and like 230 (and very gifted). Just saying, not many people agree with me but let's see what he ends up doing. I have seen Rau up close though, he looks pretty immature physically to me so he may grow more and pack on more lbs, that would help him tremendously and I would take back everything I just wrote. Right now he looks 16 years old. I disagree with you and I think a lot of others will too... Rau is a great player with a skill set that will only get better. Quote
DAR Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I disagree with you and I think a lot of others will too... Rau is a great player with a skill set that will only get better. Agree. Glad you are a hockey scout scpa0305. Duncan was undrafted, Rau went high in the 4th round with similar size. I dislike Rau with a passion. That being said not may players can come right out of high school and step onto the top line in the WCHA. Oh and if you forgot the Sioux were hard after him as well. Quote
yababy8 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I agree that Bjugstad will be a very good NHL player Agree. Toews will arguably be the greatest NHLer ever to have played college hockey. Eddie might argue that one.. Quote
yzerman19 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Eddie might argue that one.. Joe Niewendyk, Keith Tchachuk, and Chris Chelios (and others that I am missing) might too Quote
Ole in MSP Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Joe Niewendyk, Keith Tchachuk, and Chris Chelios (and others that I am missing) might too Brett Hull might disagree also. Quote
82SiouxGuy Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Joe Niewendyk, Keith Tchachuk, and Chris Chelios (and others that I am missing) might too Add Tony Esposito to the list. Quote
yzerman19 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Yeah, Brett Hull...pretty decent career...forgot about that one. Quote
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