Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023

[The Sicatoka]

23 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

Is Tommy’s 151.3 QB rating for 2023 statictically awesome?  Asking for a friend.

Top sixteen in FCS. 

[Dustin]

1 hour ago, CMSioux said:

Do I have this right - Offense scored 30 points in regular, drove 50+ yards in 50 seconds to tie the game and won it in overtime and some are saying the issues are our offense and QB ?

There’s no doubt the offense left some  points on the field and ran some questionable plays. But you’re right in that the offense did enough, despite some ineptitude.

[siouxweet]

35 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

Is Tommy’s 151.3 QB rating for 2023 statictically awesome?  Asking for a friend.

Analytics are overrated. 

[Sioux_FF]

1 hour ago, F'n Hawks said:

I’ve wondered this as well. Looks like there is a lot of times that Tommy is locked in on somebody short of the sticks, so I’m guessing it’s a combination of play calling and decision making. He made some good throws down field yesterday so we know he is capable of it.

I don't think the first, or even second option on those pass plays is the 3 yard pass.  Those plays are not always designed to throw for 3 and hope the receiver can get the rest.  If the other primary routes are not open or safe, Tommy is taught to not force it.  Cautious, or maybe overly-cautious, I'm not sure.

[Big Green]

1 hour ago, F'n Hawks said:

https://t.co/oPN7CQt0Tl
 

So some archaic chart told him to go for 2? 

Not a good look for Bubba.  I would rather hear some sort of reasoning than that a prior coaches charts says to go for 2.  At some point over the years I would think he would go over possible outcomes  of being up by 11

[GoodGood]

29 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Top sixteen in FCS. 

A friend of mine would like to know what his rating is on the road this year? 

[Oxbow6]

22 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

Analytics are overrated. 

Fake FG.......not kicking XP.......Bubba agrees.

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, GoodGood said:

A friend of mine would like to know what his rating is on the road this year? 

Better than Bubba's road record 

[SiouxHawkGuy]

Predicting last years Indiana State game kind of score next week.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said:

Fake FG.......not kicking XP.....Bubba agrees.

Way too early in the game for a fake FG.

[Kab]

36 minutes ago, Big Green said:

Not a good look for Bubba.  I would rather hear some sort of reasoning than that a prior coaches charts says to go for 2.  At some point over the years I would think he would go over possible outcomes  of being up by 11

Go by game situations

not charts

could use AI instead of the chart

[wheelsup]

2 hours ago, CMSioux said:

Do I have this right - Offense scored 30 points in regular, drove 50+ yards in 50 seconds to tie the game and won it in overtime and some are saying the issues are our offense and QB ?

To be fair.. the offense looked completely inept at UNI.. and for the first 2 quarters and a good chunk of the 3rd quarter at the game yesterday as well.  Both teams scored more pts in the 4th quarter than they scored the rest of the game.  You have to give Tommy a ton of credit for the last quarter and OT but i think its also fair to say where has that been.  I for 1 am tired of the trick plays, short passes and bubble screens.  I want to see Tommy play with the confidence he did in the last drive and the overtime throwing the ball further than 3 yrds and scrambling.  I hope those two drives are the catalyst for the rest of the season.

Also Quincy has got to be one of the most valuable players on the offense... making some nice plays at TE and makes the 3rd or 4th and short automatic even with the line totally stacked.

[wheelsup]

13 minutes ago, Kab said:

Go by game situations

not charts

could use AI instead of the chart

I want to see this chart..  I still cant picture an instance where this strategerie made sense

[Irish]

30 minutes ago, Kab said:

Go by game situations

not charts

could use AI instead of the chart

Or any I  

 

[GeauxSioux]

1 hour ago, wheelsup said:

I want to see this chart..  I still cant picture an instance where this strategerie made sense

Quick search for such a chart…

https://theredzone.org/Features/TwoPointConversionChart

Hmmm, it says to go for 1. 

[Sioux>Bison]

5 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

What about a five year contract extension? I bet that is being worked on as we speak.

I would chip in a couple hundred dollars towards a buyout. If enough fans were to do the same, it might inspire more stakeholders to step up. That would put pressure on Chaves to at least think about the future of the FB program and whether milktoast 7-4 seasons are good enough for the Flagship U.

Ah yes your couple hundred dollars isn’t going to help one bit. We don’t have the money to fire him so you might as well quit beating a dead horse…..

The last two games are Danny’s fault, he is the leader of the offense and it hasn’t been clicking on any cylinders. Play calling was aweful…… how is that on Bubba?

[Irish]

40 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Ah yes your couple hundred dollars isn’t going to help one bit. We don’t have the money to fire him so you might as well quit beating a dead horse…..

The last two games are Danny’s fault, he is the leader of the offense and it hasn’t been clicking on any cylinders. Play calling was aweful…… how is that on Bubba?

Hmm - Bubba's hire and he has Bubba's confidence and is coaching under Bubba's guidance and systems.  And not being able to buy out Bubba is directly on Chaves and his idea to renew him after a 5-6 season.  

[UND1983]

1 hour ago, GeauxSioux said:

Quick search for such a chart…

https://theredzone.org/Features/TwoPointConversionChart

Hmmm, it says to go for 1. 

360 questioned it too when he did it

[The Sicatoka]

Like I said before, every online chart I find says up 11 and extra point coming you kick to be up 12. Every.

11: 6+2 and 3

12: requires two TD 

[UND-FB-FAN]

it’s a good debate, but going up 12 with an XP is preferred. Another mistake by Bubba … sure. But I’ll be honest I didn’t mind it at the moment, because I didn’t expect the defense to play like crap after that point in time.

[shep]

Just saw the replay of their comeback.

On that possession when it took 2 plays to score from 50 yards we had Siegel behind his guy for the first big passing play.

Then there were at least 3 guys who blew tackles on the receiver who waltzed into the endjone.

We talk a lot about the flaws here, but tackling has to be the biggest problem. It's not often the first guy makes the tackle on most plays.

[The Sicatoka]

The fake FG and failed XP is four missing points. 

[petey23]

Not pile on but what the hell.

End of half, 1st and ten at own 36 with 11 seconds and two timeouts left. Indiana State in soft prevent.

Time for 2, maybe 3 plays and admittingly low expectation of getting points.

1st down and we run an 8 yard out to the sideline. 2nd down a pass over the middle for 30 yards and the clock runs out.....with two timeouts left I question the first down play as the whole middle of the field was wide open. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

24 minutes ago, shep said:

Just saw the replay of their comeback.

On that possession when it took 2 plays to score from 50 yards we had Siegel behind his guy for the first big passing play.

Then there were at least 3 guys who blew tackles on the receiver who waltzed into the endjone.

We talk a lot about the flaws here, but tackling has to be the biggest problem. It's not often the first guy makes the tackle on most plays.

My recollection is this - the defense played like absolute dog-sh*t to end the game, but they did hold Indiana State in OT. The interception by Schuster late in the game just plain stunk. Good play by Indiana State on that one, tipping the ball on the attempted screen to Belquist. I guess that’s where a consistent running game (or at least a focus on it) comes in handy (don’t get too cute).

[Prison_Mike]

10 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

To be fair has there ever been a Vikings bandwagon to jump on? Also hard to compare the two teams because only one of them had many more epic let downs. Yet when all the Vikings fans have the team written off they find a way back and should beat a poor GB team this week to get back in the playoff hunt. Lesson of the day, Season isn’t over until it’s over! Vikings have no bandwagon fans because it’s that brutal being a fan…..