The UND @ Boise State 9/16/2023

[Sioux94]

On Friday I said.....they need to take full advantage of the opportunities that present themselves. That is what was so frustrating, the dropped picks....fumbling as getting near red zone before half.  We just can't ever seem to seize the moment. Not that we for sure win if the drops and fumble don't happen, but think it would have been a 4 quarter game at a minimum. 

[iramurphy]

49 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

missed extra point

roughing the kicker (led to td)

targeting on a punt

same old song and dance.......day by day

The question was about the “kicking other than the extra point”.  

[homer]

14 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

On Friday I said.....they need to take full advantage of the opportunities that present themselves. That is what was so frustrating, the dropped picks....fumbling as getting near red zone before half.  We just can't ever seem to seize the moment. Not that we for sure win if the drops and fumble don't happen, but think it would have been a 4 quarter game at a minimum. 

Fumble before half was a game changer.  In the 20, minute thirty left in the half.  Lots can happen but I was thinking worse case we go into half down 8 although the way we were moving the ball possibly down one.  Get the ball right after half.  Instead we go in down 15.  
 

Dropped picks were frustrating as well.  Some of those are huge game changers.  

[Wilbur]

2 hours ago, 90siouxfan said:

Does anyone think Bubba is the man for the job?  I suspect nobody on here thinks that.  

I really think it's time for a younger and fresher approach.  I'll never know a smiggen about the game of football that Bubba does, but I do feel once things feel somewhat dormant it's time for a new approach.

I thought I'd love Zimmer coaching my Vikings forever, but the time came and everyone knew.  I think it's getting there with Bubba.  

People will have their differences of opinion about what success looks like.  Is it a great season making the tournament most years, but losing out soon after?  I dunno, maybe that's where I see things feeling dormant.  Every year we're 7-4 and complaining that we got sent on the road before a first round exit.

 

[wheelsup]

5 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Other than the missed XP was the kicking that bad?

Other than that.. how was the play Mrs Lincoln? 
 

i guesss u are generally correct.. kickoffs were mostly good.. I recall one pretty mediocre punt but I think most of the other ones were good. 

[petey23]

I often think about The Roman Empire  and where our program would be if we had hired this guy when we had the chance.

[Irish]

24 minutes ago, petey23 said:

I often think about The Roman Empire  and where our program would be if we had hired this guy when we had the chance.

We'd rather have a coach who was 22-21 because he is "one of us".  Heavy lobbying by the old school won the day.  And here we are 10 years later.  One playoff win and we extended him after a 5-6 season.  Absolutely no demand for excellence from the administration.  

 

[bison73]

6 hours ago, 90siouxfan said:

Does anyone think Bubba is the man for the job?  I suspect nobody on here thinks that.  

I said years ago that Bubba would not take you to the promised land.

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 hours ago, petey23 said:

I often think about The Roman Empire  and where our program would be if we had hired this guy when we had the chance.

Crosses my mind numerous times. So close in ‘13 to making this hire, but yet, so far. Bubba is a great guy, but a change in leadership would be best for UND. Bubba has given UND a decade of solid coaching, but at some point (and I think it’s soon), transition to a different leader is best. This is a conversation best had after the season - obviously. For now, it’s onto SDSU.

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 hours ago, Irish said:

We'd rather have a coach who was 22-21 because he is "one of us".  Heavy lobbying by the old school won the day.  And here we are 10 years later.  One playoff win and we extended him after a 5-6 season.  Absolutely no demand for excellence from the administration.  

 

Spot on. Our next HC will likely be another “one of us”. But, have to hope for the best, I guess. A different leader is ultimately a different leader. You never truly know until you give the individual the opportunity. 

[AJS]

@Sioux94 I think that's the most appropriate description of this program. They cannot seize the moment. Seems they are incapable of it. Although it starts with the coaches, clearly, it's on the players as well. It feels like it's in this programs DNA to not make "the play". Up until this point.

Bubba has done a great job elevating the floor of the program. What I'm talking about is the three games every year that they won't be favored, or it won't be the coin-flip type of games. They are also games I'm convinced they can win if they play clean, up to their ability. 

As predictably disappointing and frustrating as last Saturday was, it's also really important to take a step back when it comes to this season. Almost every fan if you said they would go 1-1 vs Boise State / SDSU, they would be excited. That's still a possibility. It's absolutely way too early to get too low. 

[Hawkster]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Spot on. Our next HC will likely be another “one of us”. But, have to hope for the best, I guess. A different leader is ultimately a different leader. You never truly know until you give the individual the opportunity. 

I use the term "inbred" instead of "one of us".

[SiouxHawkGuy]

I like Pawlak 

[SD UND]

UND is 2-1 with a loss to Boise St on the road… is the sky really falling?

[DL Sioux]

3 minutes ago, SD UND said:

UND is 2-1 with a loss to Boise St on the road… is the sky really falling?

Is the sky ever not falling??

 

[The Sicatoka]

16 hours ago, Kab said:

he is a nice guy but he just doesn’t exude confidence 

I don't need a Tigger.
I could live with a Pooh or Piglet.
Far too often Bubba comes off as Eeyore.   

[The Sicatoka]

My hope is that Bubba is Roger Thomas 2.0 -- moves program forward but can't finish.

Just need to find Dale Lennon 2.0. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

kelly h getting a little salty with our "special teams".....

where ya been the last 10 years kelly?

[Wilbur]

41 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

kelly h getting a little salty with our "special teams".....

where ya been the last 10 years kelly?

We have got to be top five in FCS football in missed XPs the last however many years.  I mean it's at the point where you expect to miss one at least once a week.

And when was the last time the Bizen or Jacks missed one?  Hell, how about time between two misses?  We are three games in with two already....

[geaux_sioux]

3 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

We have got to be top five in FCS football in missed XPs the last however many years.  I mean it's at the point where you expect to miss one at least once a week.

And when was the last time the Bizen or Jacks missed one?  Hell, how about time between two misses?  We are three games in with two already....

There has been a precipitous decline in kicking performance since 2014. 50 yarders are basically out of the question now.

[Sioux94]

1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said:

There has been a precipitous decline in kicking performance since 2014. 50 yarders are basically out of the question now.

I would roll on the floor in laughter/disgust if we even lined up for a 50 yard FG. I think I said last week or the week before, we probably only have made like 1 from more than 43 yards in 5 years. I mean it feels like we've made zero from beyond that but I am sure I am missing at least one. 

 

Not sure how the kicker made every extra point last year. For a brief moment you could go grab another beer for the extra point, now it's back to sitting on edge of your chair hoping and praying it goes in. 

 

We need an NIL just to get a kicker. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

15 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

I would roll on the floor in laughter/disgust if we even lined up for a 50 yard FG. I think I said last week or the week before, we probably only have made like 1 from more than 43 yards in 5 years. I mean it feels like we've made zero from beyond that but I am sure I am missing at least one. 

 

Not sure how the kicker made every extra point last year. For a brief moment you could go grab another beer for the extra point, now it's back to sitting on edge of your chair hoping and praying it goes in. 

 

We need an NIL just to get a kicker. 

or a new special teams coach.....

[The Sicatoka]

Confidence: the missed extra point took all the air out of that balloon. 

[Sioux>Bison]

3 hours ago, SD UND said:

UND is 2-1 with a loss to Boise St on the road… is the sky really falling?

It is if we are 3-3 after the first 6 games. We need to be 5-1 or 4-2 otherwise this fan base will be disappointed.

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said:

Confidence: the missed extra point took all the air out of that balloon. 

But.....but.....but the laces