The UND @ Boise State 9/16/2023

[sioux24/7]

3 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

The dropped picks and the fumbles really bothered me. The game was there for the taking. Boise isn’t that good. Tommy absolutely !@#$ the bed out there. That fumble reminded me of his pick against NDSU at home. Should’ve run for a probably 5 yard gain and instead got greedy. 

This. So many opportunities in the first half to go up on them but we couldn’t capitalize. Tommy didn’t play well, fact. Seems like the receivers weren’t getting separation much which resulted in Tommy trying to improvise in the pocket and the fumbles/sacks. 

Despite giving up 42 points, I thought the defense gave me a bit of confidence for the rest of the year. That may sound ridiculous but it’s true. Capitalize on a few more of those turnover opportunities and this boards mood is completely different. 

I will say, I wasn’t able to watch this game as closely as I would have liked, especially the second half so some of my opinions may be wrong haha. 

[Parkers Pros]

Love the passion. 
 

1. There are over 120 FCS football teams, we have been in the top 20 most of the last five years. I’m not a math major but I am guessing there are a lot of programs that would love to trade their records and progress with ours.

2. Tommy Schuster is a great FCS quarterback. He is at a FCS level for a reason.  He was playing an FBS athletic defense. He was trying to play up and press and make plays. He doesn’t have an FBS line, or FBS receiving core, or an FBS offensive coordinator. And when you try to press, mistakes are made. That’s what happened to Borude , and that’s what happened to Tommy, and yes, even Fruend. If Feeney was ready he would be in there. If Jerry was ready, he would be in there. They are not. Tommy is our best hope this year to make further strides. We may not be ready to win it this year. But the deeper we get the better our recruiting gets the closer to our goal.

3. We are building our reputation. We don’t have NDSU’s long-standing reputation of excellence. We don’t have SDSU’s facilities, and now reputation for success. (if you wanna see what I mean, go to the game in Brookings in a couple weeks and you’ll understand why, Coughlin Stadium and the S-Jack, their indoor practice facility, are impressive and have been fully funded and completed for 10 years). Danny is developing a reputation as a really good FCS offensive coordinator, where kids want to come here and play. Schwezfier has the defense swarming. They are building something there.

4. Patience everyone. Stay the course. When we were playing, well, I liked what I saw. And what I saw showed we could play with anyone at our level. That’s fun. I actually feel like we have a chance of winning these SU games. Not hoping, but thinking we can actually do it. That’s growth.

[SiouxHawkGuy]

1 hour ago, Parkers Pros said:

Love the passion. 
 

1. There are over 120 FCS football teams, we have been in the top 20 most of the last five years. I’m not a math major but I am guessing there are a lot of programs that would love to trade their records and progress with ours.

2. Tommy Schuster is a great FCS quarterback. He is at a FCS level for a reason.  He was playing an FBS athletic defense. He was trying to play up and press and make plays. He doesn’t have an FBS line, or FBS receiving core, or an FBS offensive coordinator. And when you try to press, mistakes are made. That’s what happened to Borude , and that’s what happened to Tommy, and yes, even Fruend. If Feeney was ready he would be in there. If Jerry was ready, he would be in there. They are not. Tommy is our best hope this year to make further strides. We may not be ready to win it this year. But the deeper we get the better our recruiting gets the closer to our goal.

3. We are building our reputation. We don’t have NDSU’s long-standing reputation of excellence. We don’t have SDSU’s facilities, and now reputation for success. (if you wanna see what I mean, go to the game in Brookings in a couple weeks and you’ll understand why, Coughlin Stadium and the S-Jack, their indoor practice facility, are impressive and have been fully funded and completed for 10 years). Danny is developing a reputation as a really good FCS offensive coordinator, where kids want to come here and play. Schwezfier has the defense swarming. They are building something there.

4. Patience everyone. Stay the course. When we were playing, well, I liked what I saw. And what I saw showed we could play with anyone at our level. That’s fun. I actually feel like we have a chance of winning these SU games. Not hoping, but thinking we can actually do it. That’s growth.

Patience is growing thin 

[F'n Hawks]

I feel like there was a certain point last year where the coaches told Tommy he needed to scramble more. He does have it in him, he needs to go back to it again.

[90siouxfan]

3 hours ago, F'n Hawks said:

Are you 5 years old? 

I have wondered the same thing, and wondered about "special needs"...   but i think we are witness to a product of anonymity...  where a person regurgitates everything in their head with no "people will judge" filter....  there may also be an element of self proclaimed or internet expert at work.

[Sioux94]

10 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:

I feel like there was a certain point last year where the coaches told Tommy he needed to scramble more. He does have it in him, he needs to go back to it again.

That shalacking on the sidelines last week against NAU may have been in his head not sure. 

Right before his fumble I was thinking he should have cut it up the middle. Looked like a small opening but I couldn't tell for sure from my angle how quickly that would have closed.  Hoping I can maybe find the game online somewhere this week to watch again.  The crappiest thing about that fumble was there was only about 1:40 left in the half, which means they had to run hurry up. At that point I knew they were gonna score a TD. If they were 5 minutes left maybe they run their regular offense and we hold them. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

19 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said:

I have wondered the same thing, and wondered about "special needs"...   but i think we are witness to a product of anonymity...  where a person regurgitates everything in their head with no "people will judge" filter....  there may also be an element of self proclaimed or internet expert at work.

once apathy sets in.....and it is if you ask around about "UND football"....it'll be a long climb out of the hole that bubba is digging us. even 4 year olds know this.

[90siouxfan]

blah blah blah, whatever you need to say to avoid looking in the mirror....

 

[GoodGood]

2 hours ago, Parkers Pros said:

 

2. Tommy Schuster is a great FCS quarterback. 

Great? Term gets thrown around pretty loosely these days..

[Sioux>Bison]

14 hours ago, wheelsup said:

The bad..

• Schuster had his worst game that I have seen him play.. poor passes.. bad fumbles etc.
• the snaps were very poor many times
• we were able to run the ball.. Danny just didnt seem willing to take what he was given
• kicking game and lack of confidence in the kicking game is inexcusable.. bad punt as well
• multiple missed pics.. right in the DB hands 
• really bad game by siegal. 

the decent

• our defense kept us in the game for 3 quarters while the offense really struggled
• we had chance after chance to make this game competitive.. super painful

Other

• if we struggle with a running QB.. NDSU will roll us
• to all of the special teams apologists.. I dont see NDSU or any other college team regularly missing extra points etc.  I realize Kostich didnt miss the extra point.. but he is the special teams coordinator and has been for the last 10 years or so.. he recruits and coaches these players.. somehow the extra point is still an exciting play for UND.. ITS TERRIBLE.. ITS AUTOMATIC FOR MOST, many high school teams dont have this level of excitement in the xtra point.  Spare me the kostich didnt miss the extra point B.S.
• The extra point miss didnt lose the game.. but it put pressure where there shouldnt have been.. at the end of the 3rd quarter it should have been 21-28.
• this game was totally winnable.. totally winnable.. 

By the way.. Im not as negative as some.. I expect us to be very competitive against SDSU and have a chance to win that game as well. A week off will help this team and we should be ready to rock .  This game was winnable.. Im super disappointed... unforced errors

Other than the missed XP was the kicking that bad?

[Goon]

If it makes any difference, the Kansas City Chiefs play on the field today resembles UND's against Boise. Fumbling, fumbling and fumbling. 

[sioux24/7]

12 minutes ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

Finally, people are starting to call bulls**t. Bubba needs to go. 

I’ve been saying this for years that Bubba just needs to step aside and let Danny run the show. I don’t want Bubba fired but I don’t want to lose Danny either. I get that the offense didn’t perform yesterday so maybe not the best time to be hyping him up. Bubba did a great job of fixing the mess Muss left but we have plateaued. 

[gfhockey]

33 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

I’ve been saying this for years that Bubba just needs to step aside and let Danny run the show. I don’t want Bubba fired but I don’t want to lose Danny either. I get that the offense didn’t perform yesterday so maybe not the best time to be hyping him up. Bubba did a great job of fixing the mess Muss left but we have plateaued. 

What more will Danny give us that bubba isn’t it?

[shep]

1 hour ago, gfhockey said:

What more will Danny give us that bubba isn’t it?

Not saying this should happen, but if it does, you don't think Danny is different than Bubba? One comes from a D background, the other O background. That alone makes them different. 

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Other than the missed XP was the kicking that bad?

No. Last punt was short but no returns even on the 50 yd punt. He netted over 40 yds per punt. That is good at any college level and not bad in the pros. Longest KO return was 24 yds and they brought that out of the end zone 

Missed XP can’t happen. Tends to be a mental issue with the kicker if it keeps up. Not sure about the backup but both of them need to be automatic on XP’s and short FG’s. 
 

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

6 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

No. Last punt was short but no returns even on the 50 yd punt. He netted over 40 yds per punt. That is good at any college level and not bad in the pros. Longest KO return was 24 yds and they brought that out of the end zone 

Missed XP can’t happen. Tends to be a mental issue with the kicker if it keeps up. Not sure about the backup but both of them need to be automatic on XP’s and short FG’s. 
 

 

missed extra point

roughing the kicker (led to td)

targeting on a punt

same old song and dance.......day by day

[Kab]

On the extra point can anyone see if it was a kicking issue or a placement issue 

the roughing the kicker should have been a penalty on them, clock was at 0

[90siouxfan]

Does anyone think Bubba is the man for the job?  I suspect nobody on here thinks that.  

[Kab]

1 minute ago, 90siouxfan said:

Does anyone think Bubba is the man for the job?  I suspect nobody on here thinks that.  

The ones to ask are the players though they won’t say 

he is a nice guy but he just doesn’t exude confidence 

[Sioux94]

On Friday I said.....they need to take full advantage of the opportunities that present themselves. That is what was so frustrating, the dropped picks....fumbling as getting near red zone before half.  We just can't ever seem to seize the moment. Not that we for sure win if the drops and fumble don't happen, but think it would have been a 4 quarter game at a minimum. 

[iramurphy]

49 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

missed extra point

roughing the kicker (led to td)

targeting on a punt

same old song and dance.......day by day

The question was about the “kicking other than the extra point”.  

[homer]

14 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

On Friday I said.....they need to take full advantage of the opportunities that present themselves. That is what was so frustrating, the dropped picks....fumbling as getting near red zone before half.  We just can't ever seem to seize the moment. Not that we for sure win if the drops and fumble don't happen, but think it would have been a 4 quarter game at a minimum. 

Fumble before half was a game changer.  In the 20, minute thirty left in the half.  Lots can happen but I was thinking worse case we go into half down 8 although the way we were moving the ball possibly down one.  Get the ball right after half.  Instead we go in down 15.  
 

Dropped picks were frustrating as well.  Some of those are huge game changers.  

[Wilbur]

2 hours ago, 90siouxfan said:

Does anyone think Bubba is the man for the job?  I suspect nobody on here thinks that.  

I really think it's time for a younger and fresher approach.  I'll never know a smiggen about the game of football that Bubba does, but I do feel once things feel somewhat dormant it's time for a new approach.

I thought I'd love Zimmer coaching my Vikings forever, but the time came and everyone knew.  I think it's getting there with Bubba.  

People will have their differences of opinion about what success looks like.  Is it a great season making the tournament most years, but losing out soon after?  I dunno, maybe that's where I see things feeling dormant.  Every year we're 7-4 and complaining that we got sent on the road before a first round exit.

 

[wheelsup]

5 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Other than the missed XP was the kicking that bad?

Other than that.. how was the play Mrs Lincoln? 
 

i guesss u are generally correct.. kickoffs were mostly good.. I recall one pretty mediocre punt but I think most of the other ones were good. 

[petey23]

I often think about The Roman Empire  and where our program would be if we had hired this guy when we had the chance.