2024 UND Football

[AJS]

Seemingly since the Sac State game, it's just been one hit after another for this program. It's so incredibly frustrating to see other peer institutions (Dakota / Montana schools) navigate the transfer portal this off-season so much better than UND. Pre-season polls are coming out, you'll find all of schools in the Top 5 / 10, while UND in nowhere to be found. Losing coaches / players to "peer" schools. It's embarrassing. Need something to turn the tide. The outlook for this program has never looked so bleak. 

 

Note: Very possible perception does not equal reality. Since the program gets such embarrassingly poor coverage, we won't know if things are as bad as they appear until the games are played. 

 

[jdub27]

4 minutes ago, AJS said:

The outlook for this program has never looked so bleak. 

I'd argue that you have a pretty short memory.

[The Sicatoka]

7 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

I'd argue that you have a pretty short memory.

Thoughts of Mussman give me PTSD. 

[petey23]

4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Thoughts of Mussman give me PTSD. 

I remember being at a Booster meeting in Fargo and he was talking about the new NCAA rules regarding the play clock and when the game clock stops and starts and him talking about their being less plays in football games now so he was planning on a lot more no huddle and playing fast on offense and I am sitting there thinking "but Coach you haven't recruited any talent on defense in a couple years, wouldn't it make more sense to keep the offense on the field as long as possible?"

 

Sadly I was correct in my assessment.

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

If you wanted the tough questions asked, sounds like you had your opportunity. 

… of course.

Incredibly predictable response. And my response is also very predictable: I didn’t need to ask any difficult questions; I’ve already done that behind closed doors. Fairly obvious any difficult questions that were raised during a “town hall” were not going to lead to any changes, particularly involving staffing. Still, I was curious to see what would transpire, and it was, like I said, generic.

[SiouxHawkGuy]

https://theanalyst.com/2024/05/2024-fcs-football-preseason-top-25-rankings/
 

 

wow no love after finishing at #16

[90siouxfan]

9 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

If you wanted the tough questions asked, sounds like you had your opportunity. 

He only throws popcorn from the cheap seats, but to be faiiiiiirrrrr... it is often buckets and buckets of popcorn  

[Sioux>Bison]

1 hour ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

https://theanalyst.com/2024/05/2024-fcs-football-preseason-top-25-rankings/
 

 

wow no love after finishing at #16

We return almost no one outside of Bo, including coaches. Not many programs can keep it rolling after that kind of upset. Honestly not worried about offense though the the question is if the defense can really ever get any worse than last year…

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 hour ago, 90siouxfan said:

He only throws popcorn from the cheap seats, but to be faiiiiiirrrrr... it is often buckets and buckets of popcorn  

This program is in mediocrity purgatory, and I won’t blindly agree with all the decisions that are obviously keeping UND football irrelevant. But, for everyone not throwing popcorn, carry on, and pretend all is well. Fairly low expectations at UND right now, it certainly appears, despite ”leaders” stating everyone wants to win. Anyone in a leadership position at UND right now needs to be looking at themselves in the mirror. Politically-correct town halls do not change that. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

3 hours ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

https://theanalyst.com/2024/05/2024-fcs-football-preseason-top-25-rankings/
 

 

wow no love after finishing at #16

Trajectory appears to be “down” … time will tell. 

[SooToo]

6 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

… of course.

Incredibly predictable response. And my response is also very predictable: I didn’t need to ask any difficult questions; I’ve already done that behind closed doors. Fairly obvious any difficult questions that were raised during a “town hall” were not going to lead to any changes, particularly involving staffing. Still, I was curious to see what would transpire, and it was, like I said, generic.

Do tell! Very interested in what you learned "behind closed doors." Perhaps you could share the  difficult questions you asked, to whom you addressed them and what specifically you were told in response.

[UND-FB-FAN]

53 minutes ago, SooToo said:

Do tell! Very interested in what you learned "behind closed doors." Perhaps you could share the  difficult questions you asked, to whom you addressed them and what specifically you were told in response.

The majority of this forum is populated by the exact opposite sort of people I’d like to share any of that with. I’d be very surprised if UND football takes on a different identity in 2024, as the same ol’, same ol’ is still in the place. But hey, if you enjoy some wins here, some losses there, and an early playoff exit, then you should love 2024, just like all the other seasons (albeit playoffs might not even happen this season). 
 

[Hawkster]

6 hours ago, SiouxHawkGuy said:

https://theanalyst.com/2024/05/2024-fcs-football-preseason-top-25-rankings/
 

 

wow no love after finishing at #16

Take it with a grain of salt, maybe lots of salt.   Bison at 1?   Coyotes at 4?  Sac State at 7?    Have to see what the polls look like after a few weeks of play.

[forksandspoons]

I hope they strike gold on some of these lower division players, but it is a little concerning given the amount of FBS and FCS guys out there that UND isn’t landing them. 

[fightingsioux4life]

11 hours ago, Hawkster said:

Take it with a grain of salt, maybe lots of salt.   Bison at 1?   Coyotes at 4?  Sac State at 7?    Have to see what the polls look like after a few weeks of play.

Whomever did this ranking obviously must think what SDSU did the last two years was a fluke.

[NDRA]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Whomever did this ranking obviously must think what SDSU did the last two years was a fluke.

????  They ranked them number 2 didn't they?  I'd say that's showing respect.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, NDRA said:

????  They ranked them number 2 didn't they?  I'd say that's showing respect.

The two-time defending FCS champions should be #1. No exceptions. If the Bison were defending FCS champions and were ranked #2, the outrage from Imperial Cass County would be palpable.

[NDRA]

9 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

The two-time defending FCS champions should be #1. No exceptions. If the Bison were defending FCS champions and were ranked #2, the outrage from Imperial Cass County would be palpable.

IIRC there were years that they weren't ranked one after winning the NC.  Think a couple of times JMU came out on top in preseason polls.  At any rate SDSU had 2 guys drafted and another 5 or 6? signed UDFA contracts so I'd say they have some questions to answer.

[Mama Sue]

WOW An absolutely great editorial in the Mpls. Star Tribune this morning about college sports but mostly football. The “Wild West of college football that the NCAA” and “1906 Teddy Roosevelt helped create the NCAA (?)to stop TRAMP ATHELTES who were forever on the move from school to school.” The author says we now have tramp athletes again due to NIL.

[AJS]

Interested what people think. Either rank these in order of most likely to least likely or how many (if any) of the three do you think are likely.

• Improved QB play over last year
• O-Line being average MVFC unit (Step back from last year, but still adequate) 
• Defense being average MVFC unit (Step or two better than last year)

[The Sicatoka]

Most: OLine MVFC average
Middling: QB play has a tough comp to hit
Least: D MVFC average 

[Oxbow6]

On 5/9/2024 at 10:24 PM, Hawkster said:

Take it with a grain of salt, maybe lots of salt.   Bison at 1?   Coyotes at 4?  Sac State at 7?    Have to see what the polls look like after a few weeks of play.

Not disagreeing with some rankings but UND is nowhere to found. Would having UND being ranked at #22 be any better? Look at some of those schools in the top 25. What's going to be the continued excuses? Coach's pay? Locker rooms? Facilities? 

[tnt]

On 5/10/2024 at 12:45 PM, fightingsioux4life said:

The two-time defending FCS champions should be #1. No exceptions. If the Bison were defending FCS champions and were ranked #2, the outrage from Imperial Cass County would be palpable.

It's a new year, the rankings are on the perception of what the new year is going to bring.  If SDSU lost their whole offensive line to FBS, they should still be ranked #1?

[AJS]

I do find it incredibly odd that a playoff team from the previous year would be left off of any Top 25 poll.

Edit: Granted, I couldn't have my finger on the pulse of non-MVFC teams any less but do find it somewhat surprising that (1) All the hits UND has taken got to the "national" FCS personalities (2) That other schools presumably haven't had some of the same issues (especially outside of the Top 10 teams). 

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, tnt said:

It's a new year, the rankings are on the perception of what the new year is going to bring.  If SDSU lost their whole offensive line to FBS, they should still be ranked #1?

Truth be told, all preseason rankings are worthless. Nobody knows which teams will underachieve and/or overachieve. We won't have a good sense of that until 3 to 4 weeks into the season.