2022 Football Season

[AJS]

The corner opposite of Siegel doesn’t appear to be a glaring issue anymore. Over the past few weeks it’s appeared the opposition has thrown to #3’s side as much if not more. Not calling CB a strength, but they definitely aren’t favoring the opposite side anymore. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, AJS said:

The corner opposite of Siegel doesn’t appear to be a glaring issue anymore. Over the past few weeks it’s appeared the opposition has thrown to #3’s side as much if not more. Not calling CB a strength, but they definitely aren’t favoring the opposite side anymore. 

without the tape you wonder if cj has been left on an island a little too much to cover for the other side...he was 1-1 on htat td against sdac.

[geaux_sioux]

2 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

Lost more than 1 DL and 1 OLB and corners, but I agree, I thought D would be better by this point in season.

Who were the other DLs and OLBs that were unexpected departures?

[UND Fan]

2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i've watched him too....really good recruiter...might have gotten a raw deal at und

Don't think he got a raw deal other than we were unable to pay him what he received to move to SDSU!

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, UND Fan said:

Don't think he got a raw deal other than we were unable to pay him what he received to move to SDSU!

Didn't he leave when Mussman was let go?
He was WR/OC his last year here. A new coach likely wasn't going to keep the old OC at the same position and took a guaranteed job in Brookings. Doubt there was some sort of definitive pay increase to go to SDSU and be the TE coach. Can't find the info that far back but in 2017, he was only at ~$50,000.

[Sioux94]

53 minutes ago, UND Fan said:

Don't think he got a raw deal other than we were unable to pay him what he received to move to SDSU!

I might be wrong, but I believe he was our OC the last year under Muss.  So when Muss got fired they let everyone go other than Freund.  Luke appears to be doing quite well and moving up the ranks.  But he has also surely gained a lot more knowledge in the last 10 years working for one of the better offenses in the FCS (SDSU).   With his experience at the time, I don't think any FCS school would have made him their OC when we did, but we were familiar with him and got him cheaper than most FCS coordinators were getting paid at the time.   He appears to be doing really well at Idaho now though, well the Idaho team is doing really well I haven't really looked at their offense specifically but it all goes hand in hand.  Is he a better OC than Danny, it could turn out to be that he is, but who knows.  I do think Danny is a pretty good OC though, even though I get frustrated with him at times.   Maybe if Danny got elevated to Head Coach, he would try to recruit Luke as OC.  Which I'm sure he would only  take it if we paid him more than Idaho and if it appeared to be a step up for him in general.

[UND1983]

3 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i've watched him too....really good recruiter...might have gotten a raw deal at und

He left

[nodakvindy]

On 10/31/2022 at 11:08 AM, Dustin said:

I like the fact that our defense is unique from most other systems, but the cracks that have been developing for a while seem to be getting wider.  I am not a proponent of switching systems, but I'd like our system to work better.  

But at what point do you gameplan based on the skills of the players you actually have and not the players you wished you had.  This holds true for all 3 phases of the game.

[UND-FB-FAN]

15 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

But at what point do you gameplan based on the skills of the players you actually have and not the players you wished you had.  This holds true for all 3 phases of the game.

100% of the time if you know how to coach worth a damn - that’s literally the job of the coaches, to put the players in the best position to be successful. Not force the players to do what the coaches want or like. Failure to adjust to your players is a measure of sh*tty coaching. It shows the coaches can’t adapt or change to something else - they’re only able to teach one thing…

[Dustin]

21 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

But at what point do you gameplan based on the skills of the players you actually have and not the players you wished you had.  This holds true for all 3 phases of the game.

Yeah, I agree.  Design the system for the players you have.  I think we’ve been doing a really good job with on offense. 

[108498]

If you could only have one which would you rather have? A really good defense and a bad offense, or a bad defense and a really good offense?

[UND-FB-FAN]

17 minutes ago, 108498 said:

If you could only have one which would you rather have? A really good defense and a bad offense, or a bad defense and a really good offense?

One sells tickets, the other wins championships (which coincidentally also sells tickets). 

[johnsowe]

27 minutes ago, 108498 said:

If you could only have one which would you rather have? A really good defense and a bad offense, or a bad defense and a really good offense?

Can I have both?

[Nodak78]

3 minutes ago, johnsowe said:

Can I have both?

Yes

[SWSiouxMN]

No freshman that is lighting it up on the scout team that they wouldn't want to try and throw into the rotation and see what happens?

Of course, if there was one, they probably would have put him out there by now. 

[Sioux>Bison]

13 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

No freshman that is lighting it up on the scout team that they wouldn't want to try and throw into the rotation and see what happens?

Of course, if there was one, they probably would have put him out there by now. 

Both sides of the ball have complicated schemes to learn. Caden Denis has burned his shirt though 

[SWSiouxMN]

6 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

Both sides of the ball have complicated schemes to learn. Caden Denis has burned his shirt though 

I figured my post would be wishful thinking. 

It is what it is at this point, I hope that someone can figure it out soon and can bring the defense up to respectable. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

3 hours ago, UND1983 said:

He left

left before he was told to get lost by the new coach imo

[UND Fan]

20 hours ago, UND Fan said:

Don't think he got a raw deal other than we were unable to pay him what he received to move to SDSU!

My statement above was incorrect.  Bubba was named head coach between Christmas and New Years of 2013.  In January, 2014, prior to Bubba completing his staff, Schleusner made the deal to move to SDSU (announced in early February).  

So.... he left due to the coaching change and (probably) not knowing if he would be retained at UND.  Either way, he did make considerably more at SDSU.

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, UND Fan said:

My statement above was incorrect.  Bubba was named head coach between Christmas and New Years of 2013.  In January, 2014, prior to Bubba completing his staff, Schleusner made the deal to move to SDSU (announced in early February).  

So.... he left due to the coaching change and (probably) not knowing if he would be retained at UND.  Either way, he did make considerably more at SDSU.

Not that it matters, I don't think that part is accurate based on what I can find in the state salary databases, though I can't confirm 100%.
Also, guessing by February, he probably knew he wasn't going to be on the staff or wasn't interested in the position he was offered.
He was a solid coach and a good recruiter, not surprised to see he's continued to do well.

[sioux24/7]

I don’t think this is popular amongst all (especially the crowd that would rather have someone with no connection to UND or even the area) but I’m all in on Freund being the heir apparent and I kind of think that may be the plan, although I have zero knowledge on that. 

[Sioux94]

37 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

I don’t think this is popular amongst all (especially the crowd that would rather have someone with no connection to UND or even the area) but I’m all in on Freund being the heir apparent and I kind of think that may be the plan, although I have zero knowledge on that. 

I'd be ok with that too.  Danny has a very peppy and upbeat personality and I think players would really love to play for him and buy in.  Also, if that did happen I would hope it would happen immediately and not have to go through that 30 day window and watch a ton of transfers occur in the meantime.  

[Midwestern Hawk]

On 11/1/2022 at 3:36 PM, geaux_sioux said:

Who were the other DLs and OLBs that were unexpected departures?

I meant overall. We lost a lot of players on D.  Here is starting D last season.  

 

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

I meant overall. We lost a lot of players on D.  Here is starting D last season.  

 

Right, my point though, is that most departures weren’t surprises. That means the roster management is an issue.

[Midwestern Hawk]

25 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Right, my point though, is that most departures weren’t surprises. That means the roster management is an issue.

We agree completely on that point.