gfhockey Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, siouxweet said: It was either Lucia or Gwoz that once said it is harder to win the regular season title and conference tournament championship than the NCAA title. So if it is why do we have so many connys snd not many nattys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SiouxFanatic Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, gfhockey said: So if it is why do we have so many connys snd not many nattys Because UND has had real good teams over the years? If the national tournament wasn’t single game elimination, I think a lot of the teams that were regular season champs would go further more often than not. Single game eliminations are a crapshoot. If you can’t comprehend that, I don’t know what to tell you. I feel like you should since you basically gave your lover Sandy another natty before they even played UMass. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, siouxweet said: It was either Lucia or Gwoz that once said it is harder to win the regular season title and conference tournament championship than the NCAA title. I've heard this before. I don't agree that that is is harder to win the Regular Season title as 6 teams do it every years. What i believe without is if there are 2 team from the same conference 1 wins the NCAA title and that other the Conference title the better team is the Conference title champion. You need to be good all year to do that. To me UND is still the best team in the country this year. Best team in the best conference. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 With all the talk of Sandy built the program/don't judge his record before Amsoil, let's compare recruiting between the two programs: Arena: Ralph doesn't lose to any other college arenas. On campus, incredible facility, rowdy and full. Not what it was for atmosphere, but blame that on cell phones. Amsoil is nice, but it's not on campus and always seems half full since empty chairs are bright yellow. Student section behind the net is the closest it has to a leg up on the Ralph. City: Duluth is an iconic Midwestern destination, currently being revitalized after industrial decay. Hills, rivers and the lake afford outdoor recreation opportunities that rival the western US.....for four or five months out of the year when it's not too cold. Economy isn't great, but tourism is booming as kids want the perfect pic for social media endorphins and the region is very photogenic. Lots of local hockey players; usually a half dozen on their roster are local. Grand Forks is a college town, with better restaurants and culture than towns of its size without a flagship, but recreation is lacking and the rendering scent is off-putting. Economy is good, and town came back in a hurry after a natural disaster 25 years ago. Local talent that mostly attends UND is another plus. Campus: Duluth having tunnels to not require students to go outside is a lifesaver, albeit psychologically jarring after not stepping outside for over a week. Students come from all over MN, WI, and Dakotas. Lots from the cities, which is attractive to recruits from there to play in front of friends. Hockey is king, but off campus hurts. Another campus within walking distance is fun, but amenities nearby are surprisingly scarce. UND's campus could use more tunnels to shield against wind. Students are mostly from surrounding states, unless pilots. Greek is a big deal, which can be a positive or negative depending on your perspective. Nightlife is downtown, which is luckily a short cab ride. Hockey is also king, but other sports are D1 and worth a gander, unlike Duluth. Logo: when Sioux logo was gone, my opinion was Duluth now has the best logo in college hockey. Prov, NMU, UAF and ASU round out my top five. I hate Duluth as a team, but their jerseys look good. Fighting Hawks is a stupid name, clinging on rather than making a clean break is a mistake. Transition was bungled, not to mention the refusal to vote for permission on the reservation. Embarrassing saga for all involved. Program: Don't care to learn about Duluth's history. Recent success helps. Seemingly last bastion of blue collar hockey in NCAAs. UND has a tradition of excellence to which other schools aspire. More upscale than we'd care to admit, and the rough and tumble has gone the way of the dodo. Fanbase: annoying fans on social media aside, Duluth is hard to gauge these days with the bandwagon being so full. Some knowledge and passion exist; let's see what happens when they miss the tournament again, hopefully sooner rather than later. UND's fanbase is massive (by NCAA hockey standards), passionate and demanding. Travels well and dominates comments sections on the internet. Stereotypes exist, but too big to pigeon hole. Players comment on how incredible and intense the fanbase is, and seem genuine when doing so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Because you need to play well over the whole season , get hot and get dimes bounces your the ncaa champ. O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, gfhockey said: I’d rather be in frozen four bud then watching the team that out coached me on tv Wait, Hakstol made the Frozen Four consistently but remember it was all about Nattys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, tnt said: Wait, Hakstol made the Frozen Four consistently but remember it was all about Nattys. He’s like a politician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, tnt said: Wait, Hakstol made the Frozen Four consistently but remember it was all about Nattys. It is all about nattys Sandy has more then hak and berry COMBINED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, siouxweet said: It was either Lucia or Gwoz that once said it is harder to win the regular season title and conference tournament championship than the NCAA title. Gino used to say that all the time, and he won National Championships, so it wasn't him trying to elevate his league championships because he hadn't won "The Big One". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, gfhockey said: It is all about nattys Sandy has more then hak and berry COMBINED! So what is your solution? Fire Berry Nobody here is happy about us losing in a 5 OT game. give Berry 20+ years and I bet he out performs this. Also, the reality is that more often than not the best team doesn;t win it all and that's just the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 Did I once say fire berry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, UNDColorado said: So what is your solution? Fire Berry Nobody here is happy about us losing in a 5 OT game. give Berry 20+ years and I bet he out performs this. Also, the reality is that more often than not the best team doesn;t win it all and that's just the way it is. This seems to ring more true for NCAA Men's Hockey than any other collegiate team sport men or women. Even the College World Series is more predicable for god's sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I don't buy the narratives that NCAA championships are easier to get than conference championships (regular or tournament) or that the best teams don't win the NCAA championship. First of all, you've got to put together a regular season resume worthy of being selected. Then once selected, you've got to win 4 consecutive games against the nation's best competition, with little room for error. Coaches also have to game plan for a new opponent every game, which is different from the 2-games series of the regular season. Yes, a hot team at the end of the season can run the table, but isn't that the point of playing the whole season...to work out all the kinks and play your best at the end of the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFanatic Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 22 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Did I once say fire berry? You imply it after each non-natty season when you dedicate yet another thread to your lover, Sandy, and asking what it would take to get him here. By the way, SiouxSports keep a history of user posts/topics. You’ve made quite a few threads about Sandelin. He might want to consider a restraining order. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said: Berry’s team won just as many games in the tournament. That’s my argument anyway. didn't win the game that mattered though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: didn't win the game that mattered though Yeah. On second thought Berry should probably be fired for that 5OT loss against a team that didn't have to play the night before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Yeah. On second thought Berry should probably be fired for that 5OT loss against a team that didn't have to play the night before. Your actually saying berry should be fired? see he the fire berry crowd i am just like Katie I keefe and ask the TOUGH QUESTIONS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Green Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: didn't win the game that mattered though Every game he won until the Conference Championship was won mattered. Every game he won in Conference Tourney mattered. Frozen Four appearances matter very little if you don't finish the job. NCAA championship>Conference Reg Season Championships>Conf. Tourney Champs>Frozen Four App Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFanatic Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Your actually saying berry should be fired? see he the fire berry crowd i am just like Katie I keefe and ask the TOUGH QUESTIONS @gfhockeyYou are a worm that implies he should be fired. You are worse than the people who explicitly say fire Berry. Just simple truths for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, gfhockey said: Sandy turned it on in the OT periods Yep he turned it on so good he got 5 of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 9 hours ago, crb1 said: The Devil finally came to collect on good ole Sandy. He said no mas. Mortgage always comes due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: ... my opinion was Duluth now has the best logo in college hockey. Any logo that desperately in need of dentistry can not be considered good, so, no. Just, ... no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted April 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2021 If the NCAA tournament transitioned to a "best of" series, instead of one-and-done format, I'd say it would better represent the best that year. The rink, a bad section of glass, can determine the National Champion in a one-and-done. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusinessSiouxt Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: If the NCAA tournament transitioned to a "best of" series, instead of one-and-done format, I'd say it would better represent the best that year. The rink, a bad section of glass, can determine the National Champion in a one-and-done. I definitely agree that it should be a best of 3 for the semis and championship. Don’t know about the regionals though. It would taken too long. How about this... realignment into 8 leagues and only league champions or tournament winners in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 15 hours ago, nodakvindy said: NCAAs are very much cyclical. UND is the only school to win titles in 6 decades, a remarkable model of consistency. Since our first title, the longest drought we have ever had is 17 years. UND has also won its 8 titles with 5 different coaches, so the program has shown the ability to sustain under different leadership. Other big programs Michigan Most titles (9), but majority are ancient. Program was stuck on 7 for 32 years, then returned to take 2 of 3, and is now in 23 year drought. Denver Among its 8 titles are multiple repeats, the one accomplishment UND lacks. Team of the 60s with four titles, but then a 35 year drought where Program also rarely challenged in the WCHA Wisconsin Big game hunters with 6 NCAAs, but stunningly only picked up 3 McNaughton Cups. Went 16 years between titles 5 and 6 and now in identical drought. Minnesota Wins NCAAs in clusters with a a repeat and 3 in 6 under Herb Brooks on their ledger. Went 26 years before first title, a 23 year drought between 3 and 4 and now at 18 and counting. Boston U Along with their city rivals, the kings of the East. Took 24 years to win first of 5 titles. After leading the 70s with 3 wins, took 17 years to get title 4, 14 more to get title 5, and now 12 and counting. Have also made only 2 Frozen Four appearances since 1997. Boston College Won second ever NCAA tournament in 1949. Heard Ranger style chants of "1949" from opposing fans for more than a half century until finally grabbing title number 2 on an ill-fated night in Albany. Then grabbed 3 titles in 5 years from 2008 to 2012. Now nearly a decade removed from a title. Building and sustaining a program is what you want as a fan. No one really comes close to North Dakota in that regard. Another NCAA title will happen, it's when not if. But if you can't also enjoy the Penroses and Frozen Face-offs what's the point. This is the best damn thing I've read on this site in a long time. I believe the word is perspective. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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