SiouxBoys Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 5:56 PM, UNDBIZ said: I think one of the main issues is an agency or university releases a model early on with limited data available and it predicts between 10,000 and 1 million deaths. The media then puts a big bold headline of "Pandemic predicted to kill 1 MILLION people!!!" It's usually not that the models are intentionally overstating, but due to unknowns the range was wide, and for the media no news sells as well as fear. Edit: It should also be noted the university/agency will typically have a LOT of notes and caveats on how the model works. All of that nuance is lost once the results are filtered through a "journalist" and it gets even worse once the editor and social media intern get ahold of it. Expand Whoa whoa whoa. I was told that the media was not to be blamed for any of this and that if you did blame them, you were just regurgitating a "right-wing" talking point?
petey23 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 5:12 PM, Bison Dan said: I find it interesting that most of the same people who believe in all the models for global warming are the same that believe these models. All have been GIGO Expand
UNDBIZ Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 7:32 PM, SiouxBoys said: Whoa whoa whoa. I was told that the media was not to be blamed for any of this and that if you did blame them, you were just regurgitating a "right-wing" talking point? Expand Not by me.
SiouxBoys Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 7:55 PM, UNDBIZ said: Not by me. Expand Not meant to be directed at you, more or less just agreeing with your point.
yzerman19 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Man some people just love doom porn... I wonder if so many people are just leading such miserable lives that they Just want everything to burn... 1
homer Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 8:03 PM, yzerman19 said: Man some people just love doom porn... I wonder if so many people are just leading such miserable lives that they Just want everything to burn... Expand It’s todays politics and the virus has become/has always been political. There are 20% that are in the middle of believing things should open and people can choose for themselves and it’s also ok if you want to stay in and your lifestyle allows. You just won’t find those people on message boards or social media.
yzerman19 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 8:15 PM, homer said: It’s todays politics and the virus has become/has always been political. There are 20% that are in the middle of believing things should open and people can choose for themselves. You just won’t find those people on message boards or social media. Expand I just don’t understand the animosity in politics today. It’s ridiculous. 3
90siouxfan Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 8:03 PM, yzerman19 said: Man some people just love doom porn... I wonder if so many people are just leading such miserable lives that they Just want everything to burn... Expand that is not fair, my life is miserable and I don't want everything to burn.... can I live by your dumpster?
yzerman19 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 9:01 PM, 90siouxfan said: that is not fair, my life is miserable and I don't want everything to burn.... can I live by your dumpster? Expand Only if you wear a mask LOL 1
Goon Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I'd have to agree. https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2020/05/quarantine-fatigue-real/165308/ Quote #StayHome had its moment. The United States urgently needed to flatten the curve and buy time to scale up health-care capacity, testing, and contact tracing. But quarantine fatigue is real. I’m not talking about the people who are staging militaristic protests against the supposed coronavirus hoax. I’m talking about those who are experiencing the profound burden of extreme physical and social distancing. In addition to the economic hardship it causes, isolation can severely damage psychological well-being, especially for people who were already depressed or anxious before the crisis started. In a recent poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation, nearly half of Americans said that the coronavirus pandemic has harmed their mental health. Expand 1
yzerman19 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I’m eating and drinking like a gluttonous king from the 1500s...is that a mental health issue?
The Sicatoka Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 The second round of Covid-19 problems won’t be the virus. It will be an economic, social, and mental health based pandemic that will make the first round look like the sniffles. 4
The Sicatoka Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 “ ... find a cure.” It’s right over there by the cure for the common cold. 3
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 3:04 AM, Goon said: It's time to get America back to work. Expand not according to schlossman i guess...he got triggered by elpresidente
iluvdebbies Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 11:59 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said: not according to schlossman i guess...he got triggered by elpresidente Expand Thanks for the info....keep us updated. 2
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 4:35 PM, Oxbow6 said: To the bolded part.........our resident liberal newspaper hack Jim Shaw is waiting for you on line 2. Also you seem intelligent enough to know there is a difference between a (predictive) model and a study? You cited a study but said it was a model. I mentioned that Harvard study awhile back....again it was a study not a model. And to your last 3 questions......huh? Expand i'm starting to think that dynato is schlossman's burner account....for anyone to watch dave portnoy's rant and say that he isn't asking the question that everyone should be asking is crazy.....schloss got so triggered the had to pound out those 140 characters questioning if dave is an "epidemiologist"... 2
Ranger Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 9:51 PM, Goon said: I'd have to agree. https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2020/05/quarantine-fatigue-real/165308/ Expand Or this quote: “As long as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is silenced, local and state health departments, epidemiologists, and clinicians may need to lead the way.” Or my personal favorite: “you are your safest sex partner.” 1
The Sicatoka Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 I see folks saying ‘restart’ being told to “lick a doorknob” aka practice what you preach, take the risk. Should folks saying ‘stay locked down’ be told to quit their jobs and then jailed for stepping foot outside?
yzerman19 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 The stupidity of the lick the doorknob comment is that nobody would do that in a pre-covid world. I’m even advocating to not be stupid- By here’s the self-centered entitlement of the “at-risk” crowd....if I can’t do it then nobody can...my response: go whine and rearrange your funeral hymns... 2
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted May 15, 2020 Popular Post Posted May 15, 2020 But the choice between staying home indefinitely and returning to business as usual now is a false one. Risk is not binary. 1 4
Oxbow6 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 12:04 AM, SIOUXFAN97 said: i'm starting to think that dynato is schlossman's burner account....for anyone to watch dave portnoy's rant and say that he isn't asking the question that everyone should be asking is crazy.....schloss got so triggered the had to pound out those 140 characters questioning if dave is an "epidemiologist"... Expand Dave nailed it but the bigger question is "Does Fauci like pizza"? We know Schloss does and Dave does. 1
The Sicatoka Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 < Cynicism Alert! > They got us all to stay home for a month. Now they have us all wearing masks, the sillier the better. Next, will they have us all ... (Oh PCM ... where have you gone ... ) 1
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 1:10 AM, Oxbow6 said: Dave nailed it but the bigger question is "Does Fauci like pizza"? We know Schloss does and Dave does. Expand im sure fauci eats pizza with a fork
gfNDfan Posted May 15, 2020 Posted May 15, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 3:19 PM, Goon said: Some context, he was talking about #SpyGate and not the Coronavirus. Expand The fact you're re-tweeting a tweet from ERIC TRUMP... no further questions your honor. 1 1
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