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Minnesota just cancelled the American Legion Baseball season for this summer.

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2, 40 and 1432 in ND today.

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11 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Minnesota just cancelled the American Legion Baseball season for this summer.

Ridiculous!  Played outside!!!!

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I would think legion baseball would be ok. Only problem I see would be trying to space the defense at least six feet apart!

ugh

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1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

Minnesota just cancelled the American Legion Baseball season for this summer.

Isn’t that a bit premature? 

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1 hour ago, Goon said:

Isn’t that a bit premature? 

I think this is something they could have waited a few more weeks on.

 

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2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

Minnesota just cancelled the American Legion Baseball season for this summer.

I find this surprising.  Maybe they just wanted to make the decision and be done with it?  My summer softball league (normally runs mid-April through late Aug) hasn't even been canceled yet.  An email went out last week that they're still hoping to get it going in July.

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3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

Minnesota just cancelled the American Legion Baseball season for this summer.

And yet old pro softball is still up for debate.  

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3 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said:

I think this is something they could have waited a few more weeks on.

 

I really feel bad for these kids, they're missing a lot of events in their life they'll never get back. 

Graduation night was one of the coolest events in my school days. The class of 2020 will never get that. 

Legion Ball is pretty big in the midwest, they could've held off and took a wait and see attitude. 

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A Dem California legislator just comes out and says it and seems proud.  Why work?  The government is paying you more to stay home.  

 

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Dont bars clean the glasses by dunking them in sanitizing water then usually immediately in rinse water?

Is that going to be a big spreader of coronavirus?

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Just now, Cratter said:

Dont bars clean the glasses by dunking them in sanitizing water then usually immediately in rinse water?

Is that going to be a big spreader of coronavirus?

The old way wasn't good enough and sure as heck isn't now.  Those glasses were never "cleaned".

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Looks like it's now legal to go to Walmart in North Dakota again after immediately returning from Minnesota.

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Reported today in ND....0, 27 and 936. 

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Nursing home staff in NY now required to be tested at least twice a week.  No idea if the state will be facilitating this, or if it is up to each institution to figure it out.  It's probably a good move, but I feel bad for the staff cause that test was sooooo uncomfortable.  I would not want to do that twice weekly!

NY nursing homes now required to ensure they have adequate PPE, staffing, etc. in order to take recovered covid patients (duh).  If the facility cannot handle that, then they need to call the DOH and tell DOH that the facility cannot take covid patients.  It's unclear if the DOH will actually help the home acquire the necessary items or assist in finding a facility that can accept recovered covid patients.

Wouldn't every nursing home facility just say "oh we don't have the PPE, we can't take anyone" in order to avoid taking recovered covid patients and the hassle associated with it?  This feels like coming back full circle to early on when the hospitals couldn't discharge recovered covid patients because no one would accept them.  Meanwhile patients died in the ER while beds were occupied by otherwise recovered patients.  As the med-surg hospital census has stabilized (ICU is still very high), there is a bit more wiggle room.  But then hospital bed capacity is a requirement for reopening, and this may result in an elevated census.

Again, just seems like lose-lose-lose all the way around.

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On 5/9/2020 at 2:02 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said:

don't like your job find a different one

 

Not that I agree with it, but does your opinion also apply to those who are furloughed, or lost jobs?  

Working conditions are too dangerous for you?….yea life isn't fair. Quit protesting, find a different job.  
Laid off or furloughed?…….yea life isn't fair. Quit protesting and find a different job.  

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9 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

Not that I agree with it, but does your opinion also apply to those who are furloughed, or lost jobs?  

Working conditions are too dangerous for you?….yea life isn't fair. Quit protesting, find a different job.  
Laid off or furloughed?…….yea life isn't fair. Quit protesting and find a different job.  

yes...didn't like the job you were furloughed from....find a different one you like better.

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On 5/9/2020 at 2:55 PM, Oxbow6 said:

Just heard the revenue lost from healthcare systems in this country during the first quarter of 2020 was close to $500B. If I remember the lockdowns were done as to not overwhelm hospital system so instead the lockdown in going to kill off healthcare systems financially.

You're missing the forest for the trees. 

This country’s lack of direction, preparation, execution and politicization of Covid is what's gonna kill healthcare systems.  We locked-down but never implemented the next step.  Had we not half-a$$ed our response most states could've opened-up long ago.    Yzerman19 described it well - for political reasons we navigated the middle.  

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7 hours ago, UND1983 said:

A Dem California legislator just comes out and says it and seems proud.  Why work?  The government is paying you more to stay home.  

 

i'm not sure exactly how ND works, leave alone California but if you get called back to work and refuse then you are denied unemployment benefits.  My knowledge is quite dated and definitely not up to date as far as corona specific.

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3 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

We locked-down but never implemented the next step. 

< hand in air >

What exactly was that? 

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Life is managing risk.

We are past the risk of overwhelming ND hospitals.

We now must manage the risk of losing some of them. 

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19 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

You're missing the forest for the tress. 

This country’s lack of direction, preparation, execution and politicization of Covid is what's gonna kill healthcare systems.  We locked-down but never implemented the next step.  Had we not half-a$$ed our response most states could've opened-up long ago.    Yzerman19 described it well - for political reasons we navigated the middle.  

lack of direction?  whose fault is that...gavin newsome could announce tomorrow that schools are open, all businesses are essential...all are open,....everything back to normal....what's stoppping him?????????????

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It seems now, in retrospect, that the plan should’ve been to:

full shutdown for 30 days to flatten the curve (this made sense to everyone based on a lack of data and fear of an overwhelmed healthcare system).  Healthcare providers and other necessary employees in physical contact with people should’ve been tested frequently to avoid accidental incubation and spreading.  30 days also encompasses even the longest witnessed incubation period.  

Days 30-45 should’ve been calculated re-openings on a broad scale with randomized testing...pivot region specific as needed.  Those over 65 and those with compromised immune systems would remain in full quarantine.  Outdoor activity and Children’s activities wide open.  Antibody testing to gather stats and support IVIG.

Days 45-60 should’ve been an essential return to normal  for all but those in skilled nursing facilities and severely immune compromised that would remain in quarantine.

messaging that this is not the holy angel of death, but that Americans will die. Don’t visit grandma.  Don’t be afraid.  

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29 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Life is managing risk.

We are past the risk of overwhelming ND hospitals.

We now must manage the risk of losing some of them. 

Like any competent country does, sheltering-in-place is augmented with mass testing, followed by quarantining those infected, followed by mass tracing, followed by mass anti-body testing. The point is to stay ahead of the Covid spread, after which you can formulate a step by step process to open based on readily available info and criteria being met.  Unfortunately we don't even have mass testing available to citizens.

Is this process intrusive?  Without a doubt.  Rightly or wrongly, this is the plan we chose by initiating the lock-down.  But we half-a$$ed it.  

 If you’re gonna do something, you go ‘all-in’.  We didn’t.  And here we are stuck in neutral.  

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