2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)

[UND1983]

12 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Based on your logic, positivity rate should be pretty low with all these people just getting tested to get free stuff. 

Yet here we are with a 10.6% 14-day rolling average positivity test rate that continues to trend upward. And that number is the better on of the two, the positivity rate for those testing for the first time is near double that.

We'll find out if today's numbers were just the standard Monday downtrend or things are finally heading the other direction. 

Looks like all the midwest states are getting hit at the same time.  Crazy coinkidink.

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

Does one honestly think most 20-40 somethings in ND are voluntarily going to get tested when they are aren't sick/asymptomatic??? 

if they can win a giftcard they will

[SIOUXFAN97]

9 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Somethin for the cultists to rebuke and lie about. 

 

are those deaths "with" or "of" covid...just asking for a friend.

[jdub27]

9 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Looks like all the midwest states are getting hit at the same time.  Crazy coinkidink.

Not disputing that but it is a separate argument than blaming a huge increase in cases on increased testing. If those who were claiming people were testing just to get free stuff were actually right, than the positivity rate would theoretically be significantly lower. 

[UND1983]

6 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Not disputing that but it is a separate argument than blaming a huge increase in cases on increased testing. If those who were claiming people were testing just to get free stuff were actually right, than the positivity rate would theoretically be significantly lower. 

At this current time I think the positivity rate would be the same whether they tested 1000 or 5000 people.  The virus is out there.

[TheFlop]

6 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Not disputing that but it is a separate argument than blaming a huge increase in cases on increased testing. If those who were claiming people were testing just to get free stuff were actually right, than the positivity rate would theoretically be significantly lower. 

C'mon you are better than that.  It's a 10% positivity rate....not a 10% sickly death rate.  No one will dispute that Covid is everywhere right now.....but with their contests UND is specifically targeting young people that are most likely asymptomatic and are only passing it amongst each other.  They are making the issue look worse than it is.  

[sioux rube]

A Presidential administration willing to protect our children from criminals. No President has ever overseen such a movement to save our children.
Facts matter! The wall is being built for more than many are willing or wanting to believe!

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/missing-children-anti-human-trafficking-operation-autumn-hope-ohio/530-22d51243-afb6-46f2-8d06-ded386cc00a4

[Bison06]

1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said:

Somethin for the cultists to rebuke and lie about. 

 

Not that hard to explain this. The states that re-opened with mask mandates by and large were states that the virus already significantly burned through in large metro areas. 

[TheFlop]

10 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Not that hard to explain this. The states that re-opened with mask mandates by and large were states that the virus already significantly burned through in large metro areas. 

Yes.  Like most things it just took a little longer to get to ND.  For a couple weeks to even let's say a couple months and 15-20% of the hospital beds are occupied by people "with" Covid.....not necessarily because of it.  In exchange the 99.9% of people that it's a non issue for get to live normal lives and keep the economy rolling.  A very small trade off.  Other states are seeing that and are so envious they are trying to make ND buckle to the agenda too.

[SiouxFan100]

So what is the solution to Covid?  Is it a problem or not? What do you do (or don’t do) if you are the Governor of North Dakota? What would you do if you were President Trump?

This is a sincere question.

[sioux rube]

[Bison06]

6 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

So what is the solution to Covid?  Is it a problem or not? What do you do (or don’t do) if you are the Governor of North Dakota? What would you do if you were President Trump?

This is a sincere question.

I would take any funds that are being used to battle this thing and put it towards resources for the elderly. Added PPE for long term care facilities, increased testing and tracing for these facilities and let everybody else get back to their lives.

[JohnboyND7]

31 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Not that hard to explain this. The states that re-opened with mask mandates by and large were states that the virus already significantly burned through in large metro areas. 

Yeah lol imagine if we had stayed shut down through the summer like certain states. It would still have gotten here and we'd still be dealing with it just like everybody else 

[Oxbow6]

43 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

I would take any funds that are being used to battle this thing and put it towards resources for the elderly. Added PPE for long term care facilities, increased testing and tracing for these facilities and let everybody else get back to their lives.

Plus with a vaccine and therapeutics coming to the forefront. 

Make no mistake if Biden wins and he locks down the nation late January or early February for weeks then society as we knew it pre-Covid will be done. No return.

[Oxbow6]

ACB confirmed 

[Wilbur]

8 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Plus with a vaccine and therapeutics coming to the forefront. 

Make no mistake if Biden wins and he locks down the nation late January or early February for weeks then society as we knew it pre-Covid will be done. No return.

I was told society as we knew it was over if ACB got confirmed?  

[JohnboyND7]

6 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

I was told society as we knew it was over if ACB got confirmed?  

If you saw my phone right now you'd think America is kaput. Libs all freaking out about losing "their rights."

[CMSioux]

1 hour ago, sioux rube said:

However right now the only state they care about is Pennsylvania, followed by Wisconsin and Arizona - so how is the EC preventing that? 

[Hayduke1]

1 hour ago, sioux rube said:

1 citizen. 1 vote.

Land doesn't equate to representation, you dumbass Trumptard 

Lol

[Hayduke1]

34 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Plus with a vaccine and therapeutics coming to the forefront. 

Make no mistake if Biden wins and he locks down the nation late January or early February for weeks then society as we knew it pre-Covid will be done. No return.

Only cultists give a $hit about your views on health care, Trumptard.

LOL

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

27 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

I was told society as we knew it was over if ACB got confirmed?  

The new norm was just pushed through "Because We Can".

[Oxbow6]

3 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

The new norm was just pushed through "Because We Can".

Where is there anything that states "They Can't"? Just curious.

[Hayduke1]

9 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

The new norm was just pushed through "Because We Can".

After this election, perhaps:

1.  Two more SCOTUS members.

2.  Two more states.

Why?  

Because they can. 

 

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

Where is there anything that states "They Can't"? Just curious.

No law. Just hypocritical and etc.
This goes back to Obama's Justice appointment and other federal judges.
A Justice died with about a year left in Obama's Presidency, McConnell blocked the appointment at the Senate.
McConnell also blocked other federal judges for last two years of Obama's term, take it from there?
 

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell boasted about blocking former president Barack Obama's judicial appointments, a two-year effort that allowed Donald Trump and a Republican-controlled congress to stack courts with conservative judges and create a conservative majority on the nation's high court.

Fox host Sean Hannity told the Kentucky senator that he was shocked that the Obama administration "left so many vacancies and didn't try to fill those positions".

"I'll tell you why," Mr McConnell said, laughing. "I was in charge of what we did the last two years of the Obama administration."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/mitch-mcconnell-obama-trump-judges-supreme-court-conservative-biden-impeachment-a9245781.html

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said:

So what is the solution to Covid?  Is it a problem or not? What do you do (or don’t do) if you are the Governor of North Dakota? What would you do if you were President Trump?

This is a sincere question.

The solution is tell people to grow the hell up. Old people die. Sick people die. Sometimes younger and healthier people die, too. It's part of the human condition that, until March 2020, we all just kind of accepted.

Stop publicizing COVID like it's anything more than a respiratory bug with a ludicrously high survival rate. People can't handle the information they've been fed and worse, I think there are people who are addicted to the data and will want a fix perpetually going forward. We've made rock stars out of epidemiologists and public health advocates; they've tasted the limelight and will not give it up easily.

There will always be people working to solve humanity's problems, and ease human suffering. Ain't nobody gonna solve the ultimate problem, however, because people die.

Add COVID to the list of conditions for which medicine will search for better and improved treatment and prevention, but not at so great a social and economic cost. Hate capitalism? Hate the modern economy? Tough, because without those we're in real trouble. Trouble that masks and distancing won't solve. Look what we're doing to our children. Look what we're doing to ourselves.

It's cliche, but pick a color and hand out COVID ribbons. And don't let anyone give you any BS about prejudice or marginalizing a micro- or sub-population that is disproportionately affected by disease. We've managed to co-exist with sickle-cell anemia for a long damn time, and that draws some pretty awkward social lines. Throw a benefit, raise funds. It doesn't bring anyone back but it would certainly be better to have more people gainfully employed, and more people feeling confident in society and the economy to support the cause.

If I'm wrong, and COVID is the global killer I've been denying since day 1, so be it. But I'd rather go out living, than not. And if I'm right...start the apologies now because the list of people to whom they are owed is long and growing.