InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I'm not mad Goon, just disappointed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: I'm not mad Goon, just disappointed Just be happy his isn't a Gopher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 32 minutes ago, Goon said: Just be happy his isn't a Gopher. Yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 5 hours ago, UND99 said: UND power play national ranking last four years: 2015-16: 21st (with a roster that included Boeser, Schmaltz, Caggiula, Stecher, Poolman, LaDue, Johnson, etc...) 2016-17: 30th 2017-18: 17th 2018-19: 52nd Good grief those numbers are awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 51 minutes ago, Goon said: Just be happy his isn't a Gopher. Idk Denver's a bigger threat currently and we play them 4x a year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Good grief those numbers are awful. Easy killer. Words hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Easy killer. Words hurt. Well I’m still confused though. Tim H said that the team just needed some puck luck and that he’s never seen a team work so hard, but get no reward, yet now we’re not retaining coaches? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsmack Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Any rule that says we need to go after a UND hockey alum? DU seems to do alright bringing in non-DU guys. Mannino to me seems intriguing, if especially if what someone on this board said about him being a great recruiter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Godsmack said: Any rule that says we need to go after a UND hockey alum? DU seems to do alright bringing in non-DU guys. Mannino to me seems intriguing, if especially if what someone on this board said about him being a great recruiter. To be honest, I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than see that prick Mannino behind the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-MH-Fan Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, siouxforce19 said: To be honest, I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than see that prick Mannino behind the bench. I agree with you. But at the same time a prick attitude is what this team needs. Just go on YouTube and watch some of the final fives and games against our old wcha foes. We were a hard nosed prick team that won a lot of games. I’m sure at some point someone said Blais was a prick before he came to UND and now he’s one of our heroes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, UND-MH-Fan said: I agree with you. But at the same time a prick attitude is what this team needs. Just go on YouTube and watch some of the final fives and games against our old wcha foes. We were a hard nosed prick team that won a lot of games. I’m sure at some point someone said Blais was a prick before he came to UND and now he’s one of our heroes. For the record, Blais is a prick, and damnit I love the guy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Goon said: Just be happy his isn't a Gopher. I live in Minnetonka. You would know but word here is Motzko made a run at him for UM but that was quickly shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 4 hours ago, siouxforce19 said: To be honest, I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than see that prick Mannino behind the bench. I don’t want that smug pompous jerk anywhere near UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Siouxperman8 said: I live in Minnetonka. You would know but word here is Motzko made a run at him for UM but that was quickly shut down. Word is that Motzko was openly recruiting one of UND’s recruits, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 5 hours ago, UND-MH-Fan said: I agree with you. But at the same time a prick attitude is what this team needs. Just go on YouTube and watch some of the final fives and games against our old wcha foes. We were a hard nosed prick team that won a lot of games. I’m sure at some point someone said Blais was a prick before he came to UND and now he’s one of our heroes. Not one of the best thoughts. UND didn’t have a “prick attitude “. There is such a difference between tough, physical, hockey and being a prick. I hope that is what you meant. Our successful teams were a result of talent, teamwork and hard work. We have had some jackasses over the years but I don’t believe our success has ever been dependent upon players being a jerk. That just gets us someone in the box. Some of our toughest most physical players have been nice guys. I don’t need to watch some immature “prick” give the other team an advantage by doing something stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Goon said: Word is that Motzko was openly recruiting one of UND’s recruits, too. ...and tough guy Motzko had an issue with Montgomery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/hockey/4602133-matt-shaw-reflects-his-time-und Pretty classy interview with Shaw. Glad he will take good memories with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snova4 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, tnt said: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/hockey/4602133-matt-shaw-reflects-his-time-und Pretty classy interview with Shaw. Glad he will take good memories with him. Wow, that's a top notch dude there. You certainly wouldn't have blamed him if he wasn't as professional as he was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett0909 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 22 hours ago, UND99 said: UND power play national ranking last four years: 2015-16: 21st (with a roster that included Boeser, Schmaltz, Caggiula, Stecher, Poolman, LaDue, Johnson, etc...) 2016-17: 30th 2017-18: 17th 2018-19: 52nd Ouch. Averaged 30th in the country in PP, quite a bit lower than PWR finishes, and couldn’t crack the top 20 in a Championship year with clearly the most talented team in the country. Lots of factors, but this reinforces for me that there’s been a serious systems issue, not just talent, on the PP — and likely forwards systems overall, since Berry and/or Shaw took over. Yes, talent has been down a bit since the exodus after the championship, but plenty of other teams are doing more with a lot less. I’d have a hard time buying that half the teams in the country have more talent than UND? I suspect at least 45 teams would trade their rosters for UNDs, even over the last couple years. Hopefully whoever they bring in can change that around, in a hurry. Need a net-gain hire, given our last coaching change saw us swap an NHL HC for Shaw. No denying that was a net-loss and we’ve been feeling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 @Brett0909 when was the last time you remember UND having a great power play? Last year was rock bottom, absolutely, but I’m also not going to pretend that it was ever rolling under Hakstol. It’s something for over a decade plus I’ve never been able to figure out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxScore Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Goon said: Word is that Motzko was openly recruiting one of UND’s recruits, too. If it is a verbal than there is no problem? If I'm at a school like Minnesota, UND, Denver, Wisconsin there is no way I'm following that stupid gentleman's agreement. No other sport has it. Until a kid signs his NLI he is free game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 minute ago, SiouxScore said: If it is a verbal than there is no problem? If I'm at a school like Minnesota, UND, Denver, Wisconsin there is no way I'm following that stupid gentleman's agreement. No other sport has it. Until a kid sings his NLI he is free game. I asked Berry at the beginning of the season if UND still respected the gentleman's agreement and he said he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett0909 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 @AJS UND PP has likely underperformed by most traditional measures since...Blais? I’m not a coach, but my assumption has been the team emphasizes fundamentals like puck possession, face offs and defensive systems over PP. likely part of the culture. Drove me a bit nuts earlier this year when after a couple particularly atrocious power play showings (boo-birds) and later total lack of finishing, coaches were outspoken in interviews about emphasizing those through the week and the team came out with solid performances the next weekend(s). Obviously it’s a balance but appears to also be systems and amount of focus on it by the staff. I can’t say that’s true or even that it’s wrong if it is, to limit focus on PP vs. other areas, but PP is the great equalizer and i have a tough time putting the blame on the players or lack of talent when it’s a statistically significant trend of underperforming on the PP, regardless of “talent” on the ice. I choose to believe the last couple years of rosters have had enough talent and effort to reasonably have top 30% PP results but are instead falling into the bottom half. Those missing PP goals would have almost certainly been enough to get the team in the post season each year. I could be wrong, but it’s something this staff needs to figure out and I hope Shaw’s replacement is a step in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 18 hours ago, MafiaMan said: Well I’m still confused though. Tim H said that the team just needed some puck luck and that he’s never seen a team work so hard, but get no reward, yet now we’re not retaining coaches? So it's fair to say: Shaw losing his job at UND was just bad luck for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Goon said: I asked Berry at the beginning of the season if UND still respected the gentleman's agreement and he said he did. Well he should stop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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