Gameday vs USD

[geaux_sioux]

I'm almost a bit relieved in this result. Our OL isn't there yet. Our LBs are a mess. Without those two groups rock solid, the way we play, we can't succeed. The players and the coaches need a wake up call. A lot of guys need to visit the wizard and get some fucking heart. We aren't ready yet. The potential is there.  We just played our worst game possible. It's only up from here on out.

[gundy1124]

Who do the Vikes have tomorrow?

[UNDColorado]

Just now, gundy1124 said:

Who do the Vikes have tomorrow?

Pittsburgh...nationally televised early game!

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, gundy1124 said:

Who do the Vikes have tomorrow?

The Steelers on the road. I am feeling much better about the Purple than I was a week ago. But it will be a tough game to win.

[Sioux94]

1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said:

I'm almost a bit relieved in this result. Our OL isn't there yet. Our LBs are a mess. Without those two groups rock solid, the way we play, we can't succeed. The players and the coaches need a wake up call. A lot of guys need to visit the wizard and get some fucking heart. We aren't ready yet. The potential is there.  We just played our worst game possible. It's only up from here on out.

After blowing the Richmond game, and now this.....I agree. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

Absolutely horrible today. I'm embarrassed for UND football and Bubba. I'll comment again after I gather my thoughts. This was atrocious. Get to work Bubba and crew and shape it up - this is horrible. 

[homer]

Out played, out coached.  Total ass kicking today. 

[Finn flick]

Is the game over?

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, UND-FB-FAN said:

Absolutely horrible today. I'm embarrassed for UND football and Bubba. I'll comment again after I gather my thoughts. This was atrocious. Get to work Bubba and crew and shape it up - this is horrible. 

Can't disagree with that. 

[oldage]

50 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

It's year 4. The depth excuses are starting to wear thin. Especially at LB, a position we've always been able to recruit. 

It takes more than 4 years to rebuild a program.  It  is not a matter of just a new recruiting class... you have to rebuild a reputation also.  Recruits have to have reason to sign up. 

Sort of an oxymoron.  You need a winning tradition to attract recruits, but you cannot get a winning tradition established until you can consistently recruit quality players.

Its an incremental thing, not just a turnover thing or an instant replacement thing. 

[NoDaks]

That game reminded me a lot of 04-05ish when UND lost at St Cloud and their running back ran wild and was frustrating to watch, hopefully get the result that followed up later in the year with a playoff win over them

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, Finn flick said:

Is the game over?

I will argue it was over sometime in the 2nd quarter (sarcasm, I know what you meant).

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, oldage said:

It takes more than 4 years to rebuild a program.  It  is not a matter of just a new recruiting class... you have to rebuild a reputation also.  Recruits have to have reason to sign up. 

Sort of an oxymoron.  You need a winning tradition to attract recruits, but you cannot get a winning tradition established until you can consistently recruit quality player.

Its an incremental thing, not just a turnover thing or an instant replacement thing. 

THIS! Especially when you consider what Bubba and company inherited. A team that probably couldn't make the Division 3 playoffs.

There is no easy way to build depth. It just takes time. And in our 24/7 instant gratification culture, that isn't soon enough for most of us. Including myself.

[Siouxphan27]

7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I'm almost a bit relieved in this result. Our OL isn't there yet. Our LBs are a mess. Without those two groups rock solid, the way we play, we can't succeed. The players and the coaches need a wake up call. A lot of guys need to visit the wizard and get some fucking heart. We aren't ready yet. The potential is there.  We just played our worst game possible. It's only up from here on out.

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 minute ago, oldage said:

It takes more than 4 years to rebuild a program.  It  is not a matter of just a new recruiting class... you have to rebuild a reputation also.  Recruits have to have reason to sign up. 

Sort of an oxymoron.  You need a winning tradition to attract recruits, but you cannot get a winning tradition established until you can consistently recruit quality player.

Its an incremental thing, not just a turnover thing or an instant replacement thing. 

I don't buy that at all. This is year 4 for Bubba and only year 2 for USD's Nielsen ... 

Today was a failure that went beyond the health of the linebackers. UND only scored seven points! The leadership of UND football (both coaches and players) failed today. That is unacceptable and is the kind of the thing that requires someone to lose their job. 

[Midwestern Hawk]

Big concerns for me ar OL and LBers.  Need big improvement in both areas.  OL improvement will take some pressure off LB problems.  I'm pretty nervous taht we are waiting for a redshirt frosh who has never played a down(hunt) and a true frosh(Larson) to get on the field.

[Sioux04]

1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

I don't buy that at all. This is year 4 for Bubba and only year 2 for USD's Nielsen ... 

Today was a failure that went beyond the health of the linebackers. UND only scored seven points! The leadership of UND football (both coaches and players) failed today. That is unacceptable and is the kind of the thing that requires someone to lose their job. 

True.  Enough with the excuses.

[ND1]

How many ranked opponents have we beat in the last few years? One ?

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, UND-FB-FAN said:

I don't buy that at all. This is year 4 for Bubba and only year 2 for USD's Nielsen ... 

Today was a failure that went beyond the health of the linebackers. UND only scored seven points! The leadership of UND football (both coaches and players) failed today. That is unacceptable and is the kind of the thing that requires someone to lose their job. 

USD had Joe Glenn before Nielsen. Glenn stabilized the program and Nielsen has simply built upon that.

UND had Mussman before Bubba. Mussman completely destroyed this program. I am not sure who would win between the 1985 team and the 2013 team.

It takes longer than 4 years to build quality depth in a numbers-oriented sport like FB. Especially when some guys crap out on the team and program (yes Grady, I am talking about you!).

[Cratter]

4 minutes ago, oldage said:

It takes more than 4 years to rebuild a program.  It  is not a matter of just a new recruiting class... you have to rebuild a reputation also.  Recruits have to have reason to sign up. 

Sort of an oxymoron.  You need a winning tradition to attract recruits, but you cannot get a winning tradition established until you can consistently recruit quality players.

Its an incremental thing, not just a turnover thing or an instant replacement thing. 

Building a reputation could take 20+ years. Could never happen. 

Team made the playoffs last year. Hopefully they will again this year, but year four and a blowout loss to an "equal team" doesn't help build any type of reputation. 

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Building a reputation could take 20+ years. Could never happen. 

Team made the playoffs last year. Hopefully they will again this year, but year four and a blowout loss to an "equal team" doesn't help build any type of reputation. 

It took Roger Thomas seven years to win a conference title and win a playoff game. Bubba is in year four, has won a conference title and made the playoffs. Now after one bad road loss, people are already hinting at regime change. Too early to have that conversation IMHO.

[Midwestern Hawk]

1 minute ago, fightingsioux4life said:

It took Roger Thomas seven years to win a conference title and win a playoff game. Bubba is in year four and people are already hinting at regime change. Too early to have that conversation IMHO.

It was one game.  Yes it was ugly, but it was one game.  Urban Meyer and Ohio state were embarrassed on their home field by Oklahoma a week ago.  Ohio State has as many recruits as they need and Uran Meyer has won multiple national cahmpimships at multiple schools.  Bubba and co will get the ship righted.

[Cratter]

8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

It took Roger Thomas seven years to win a conference title and win a playoff game. Bubba is in year four, has won a conference title and made the playoffs. Now after one bad road loss, people are already hinting at regime change. Too early to have that conversation IMHO.

That's why I'll take Dale Lennon every day of Roger Thomas.

"But Lennon didn't have to rebuild like Bubba." We could play this game all year long.

It took UND 100 years to win one Division 2 Championship. 

Bottom line is...UND coulda, shoulda, woulda have "rebuilt" way quicker in Division 2 than they did.

I'm not calling anyone to lose their job. It was one game and these things happen, but Bubba better win a playoff game before 7 years.

[geaux_sioux]

12 minutes ago, Finn flick said:

Is the game over?

Did it ever start?

[tnt]

10 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

I don't buy that at all. This is year 4 for Bubba and only year 2 for USD's Nielsen ... 

Today was a failure that went beyond the health of the linebackers. UND only scored seven points! The leadership of UND football (both coaches and players) failed today. That is unacceptable and is the kind of the thing that requires someone to lose their job. 

Overreact much?