jdub27 Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 BF better step up and announce at the end of the season Jones is gone.Are you going step up and announce you are contributing to help fund the the buyout?Or are you just venting because UND got a non-conference road win when you predicted that wouldn't have any the rest of the season? 1 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Posted December 6, 2015 Are you going step up and announce you are contributing to help fund the the buyout?Or are you just venting because UND got a non-conference road win when you predicted that wouldn't have any the rest of the season?why do you love Jones so much? He has 3 winning seasons over 9 years all in the GWC. UND could do so much better, but then I am sure you thought Mussman was a good coach too. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 So the Junior Athletic Directors are pretty quiet. I'm not saying that beating Bradley was a great accomplishment - it was a nice road win and we saw some new faces step up and show their talent. According to the play-by-play we got hosed in several key calls, had some really stupid plays by young players and still pulled it out - not sure how you blame the coach for a player getting a technical or a guy jumping in the lane too early on a cruicial free throw but some will find a way.I will stand on my soapbox again and say that the "Fire the Coach" threads do nothing to support or improve the program. But as gets shared here quite often - it's a free country, I don't have to read here, I'm accepting mediocrity so as the old Budweiser commercials used to say "Carry on Junior Athletic Directors, you are the ones that sit in your armchair, never played the game yet have the unique skills to know what every coach should have done after the fact..this Bud's for you!" I suppose you still think Mussman should have the FB head coaching job? If you answer "yes" to that question, then you really haven't learned the lessons of history, have you?Nice road win, but we'll have to wait and see what happens the rest of the season before we can call this the start of a turnaround. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 Are you going step up and announce you are contributing to help fund the the buyout?Or are you just venting because UND got a non-conference road win when you predicted that wouldn't have any the rest of the season?I got news for you, Mr. Conscience of SS.com, but it isn't our job to come up with the buyout money. It's Faison's...and the Alumni Association's as well. That is how we got rid of Mussman. Of course, our benefactors need to know that the need for buyout funds exists and that once again is on the Athletic Department....not me and not you.As for what I would contribute, I can't contribute much, but I probably would throw in a token check to help move matters along. 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 Craig was not good enough for UND to even interview? Signature Win for Craig and USD, Do we have one...?That was the result of Mr. Tom Buning and his asinine criteria he used to hire Jones to replace Rich Glas. I think it included "minimum five years Division I experience" and "a Master's Degree". The fact is, every coach starts out someplace small and then gets bigger jobs as they build on their resumes. Craig Smith is one example of that. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 And surprisingly the Gophers were the ones who had to come back to tie it. As I believe, USD led at halftime and later in the game.Big Ten probably looking at not scheduling any more "low/mid major" teams. I call the B1G's rule against scheduling FCS teams "The Minnesota Rule". You can thank Tim Brewster and NDSU for making that possible. 1 Quote
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) Objectively speaking, it is my belief that since Faison paid for the extension that may or may not have been warranted, he can also pay for the buyout that may or may not be forthcoming. Edited December 6, 2015 by UNDvince97-01 3 Quote
jdub27 Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 why do you love Jones so much? He has 3 winning seasons over 9 years all in the GWC. UND could do so much better, but then I am sure you thought Mussman was a good coach too.Have never stated I loved him (nor am I his wife or brother for that matter). I've stated I believe he's coaching for his job and without a pretty good showing, there's a good chance it is his final year on the bench for UND. I said the same thing on Mussman. He did just enough to get an extension and it didn't work but he wasn't going to be let go with multiple years remaining on his contract. I got news for you, Mr. Conscience of SS.com, but it isn't our job to come up with the buyout money. It's Faison's...and the Alumni Association's as well. That is how we got rid of Mussman. Of course, our benefactors need to know that the need for buyout funds exists and that once again is on the Athletic Department....not me and not you.Of course it is, but there's still a budget and it doesn't have a ton of room to pay two head coaches for multiple years which is why it wasn't likely that he was going to be let go with multiple years remaining on his contract. Objectively speaking, it is my belief that since Faison paid for the extension that may or may not have been warranted, he can also pay for the buyout that may or may not be forthcoming.This is fair. Guessing there was a concession on the salary for an additional year or two on the extension, which in hindsight was a roll of the dice that did not work out. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 Craig was not good enough for UND to even interview? Signature Win for Craig and USD, Do we have one...?la tech at home six years ago...jamal webbs three from 28 feet before halftime was/is loudest ever at the betty... Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 I'd say the Montana game at home when Huff and Company were sophomores was the best win. That was a very good Montana team. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Have missed your postings here for a couple years. Welcome back Coach Dags! 3 Quote
petey23 Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Oh don't worry, some of us have played plenty of games at the high school and collegiate level in multiple sports. Some of us have played for and seen good solid coaching and can easily tell the difference when we see it. Not too hard to identify.But not likely many of the 5 who up voted your post. Quote
sioux2013 Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 I'd say the Montana game at home when Huff and Company were sophomores was the best win. That was a very good Montana team. That same year's win over NDSU in the Ralph was big especially when the fans rushed the floor, it was awesome to see. Quote
CMSioux Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Craig was not good enough for UND to even interview? Signature Win for Craig and USD, Do we have one...?The jury is still out if this is a signature win - if Minnesota doesn't even make the NIT not so much - however it could qualify as an NCAA "Quality Loss" for Minnesota if USD progresses Quote
ericpnelson Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 The jury is still out if this is a signature win - if Minnesota doesn't even make the NIT not so much - however it could qualify as an NCAA "Quality Loss" for Minnesota if USD progresses The real question is, did they extend Rick Pitino after the game? 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 The real question is, did they extend Rick Pitino after the game?I think he'll get another couple of years to get his team back into the NCAA tournament. Quote
Shawn-O Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Are the roles reversing with USD becoming the basketball school and SDSU becoming the football school?Jacks get their shot at Goldy tomorrow night. Quote
niouxsiouxfan Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Jacks get their shot at Goldy tomorrow night. Was hoping we'd have them on our schedule again. Next year! Quote
niouxsiouxfan Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 So the Junior Athletic Directors are pretty quiet. I'm not saying that beating Bradley was a great accomplishment - it was a nice road win and we saw some new faces step up and show their talent. According to the play-by-play we got hosed in several key calls, had some really stupid plays by young players and still pulled it out - not sure how you blame the coach for a player getting a technical or a guy jumping in the lane too early on a cruicial free throw but some will find a way.I will stand on my soapbox again and say that the "Fire the Coach" threads do nothing to support or improve the program. But as gets shared here quite often - it's a free country, I don't have to read here, I'm accepting mediocrity so as the old Budweiser commercials used to say "Carry on Junior Athletic Directors, you are the ones that sit in your armchair, never played the game yet have the unique skills to know what every coach should have done after the fact..this Bud's for you!" It was a road win, and with this young group, we'll take it and be happy. No reason to rip into Coach Jones, even when there are instances you could point out that were questionable decisions (i.e. substitutions, or lack thereof. OB plays not changing). But, they made a change defensively that helped them get a ROAD WIN. Let them enjoy the win, I am betting there will be plenty more opportunities to post about firing Coach Jones. Regarding this thread does nothing to support or improve the program. I would argue to the contrary. It is typical for the "fanatics", and die-hard fans to be the most vocal and generally lead these discussions. When there is enough support for a change, admins usually listen. I will say again, the admin is aware of the situation and I am optimistic that it will be dealt with at the end of the season. 2 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. I'd be far more concerned about indifference than "Fire < coach here >!" threads. 2 Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. I'd be far more concerned about indifference than "Fire < coach here >!" threads. Well, I guess we can change the name to the "Friendly hhat about how everyone feels about the honorable Coach Brian Jones - be respectful please" thread!! 3 Quote
Dagger Posted December 7, 2015 Posted December 7, 2015 Omaha came within an eyelash of beating the Gophers last week too. The Gophers apparently are going to be losing quite a few this year. Quote
darell1976 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Posted December 7, 2015 Well, I guess we can change the name to the "Friendly hhat about how everyone feels about the honorable Coach Brian Jones - be respectful please" thread!!What some may not realize is this thread was created after the numerous posts in game threads calling for Jones's head 2 years ago. I only created the thread to centralize those posts, and here we are in Jones' tenth year talking about the same stuff we were in his 8th year. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted December 8, 2015 Posted December 8, 2015 Saw a quote recently by a major school AD that went something like: "If your head coach hasn't had inquiries from other schools by his 4th or 5th year, he probably needs to be gone."Jones probably hasn't had offers from other DI schools, has he? 2 Quote
gfhockey Posted December 8, 2015 Posted December 8, 2015 Maybe he's just more loyal then Tim miles and Saul phillips Quote
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