jdub27 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 From my understanding of the rules, I would think Arnell has a better chance at getting an extra year since he never redshirted and didn't pass the 30% threshold of games played the year he got hurt. Clive will have a harder time since the injury he got in 2015 wasn't technically season ending and he's asking for a 6th year. However you never know with the NCAA, they have made some strange decisions in regards to granting extra eligibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bob Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 8 hours ago, gundy1124 said: Kick coverage has 3 categories. This is my analysis - 50% is the kicker and his kick (height and distance), 40% is the talent and effort from the players, and 10% is execution with avoiding blocks, taking on blocks, and containment. Our kicker was average so that's not a good start. We had 2-3 good coverage guys but too many average Joes. We need 5-6 good coverage guys and I think that will be better in 2017. Overall I think most are too hard on Siebel, that's a really challenging job, punt returner. My guess is there is hardly a guy on this forum with the balls to stand back and return punts at the college level. Kicker - Best man win. Taubs was pretty mediocre last year. Taubenheim was a Big Sky 2nd team all conference team selection. That does not indicate mediocrity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geaux_sioux Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dr. Bob said: Taubenheim was a Big Sky 2nd team all conference team selection. That does not indicate mediocrity. It indicates how bad the other kicker in the conference were apparently. Taubenheim had the worst season for a UND kicker I've seen in a long time 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: It indicates how bad the other kicker in the conference were apparently. Taubenheim had the worst season for a UND kicker I've seen in a long time Did he miss a field goal against Richmond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 FIELD GOALS Made-Att Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Long Blkd Reid Taubenheim 16-25 64.0 0-0 9-9 3-5 4-10 0-1 44 0 FIELD GOALS Made-Att Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Long Blkd Reid Taubenheim 13-17 76.5 0-0 5-6 4-6 4-4 0-1 46 0 FIELD GOALS Made-Att Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Long Blkd Reid Taubenheim 16-21 76.2 0-0 3-4 9-10 4-6 0-1 47 2 FIELD GOALS Made-Att Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Long Blkd Zeb Miller 9-14 64.3 0-0 3-5 2-2 4-5 0-2 45 1 FIELD GOALS Made-Att Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Long Blkd Zeb Miller 12-14 85.7 0-0 4-4 4-5 3-3 1-2 50 1 FIELD GOALS Made-Att Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Long Blkd Zeb Miller 15-19 78.9 1-1 4-5 3-3 6-8 1-2 54 1 FIELD GOALS FGM-FGA Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Lg Blk ----------------------------------------------------------------- Zeb MILLER 9-15 60.0 0-0 4-4 2-2 3-7 0-2 44 0 FIELD GOALS FGM-FGA Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Lg Blk ----------------------------------------------------------------- B. Hellevang 15-18 83.3 0-0 3-3 5-7 4-4 3-4 52 1 FIELD GOALS Made-Att Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Long Blkd B. Hellevang 7-17 41.2 0-0 2-2 3-5 2-9 0-1 46 2 FIELD GOALS FGM-FGA Pct 01-19 20-29 30-39 40-49 50-99 Lg Blk ----------------------------------------------------------------- B. Hellevang 15-25 60.0 1-1 7-8 3-6 2-6 2-4 56 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said: Did he miss a field goal against Richmond? He missed an easy one against Richmond. 42 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 The stats above go back to 2007. 3 attempts over 50 yards in 3 years tells me all I need to know about what Taubenheim can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: He missed an easy one against Richmond. 42 yards. Yes, I remember that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Dr. Bob said: Taubenheim was a Big Sky 2nd team all conference team selection. That does not indicate mediocrity. I wasn't aware of the 2nd team honors, just an opinion. 4 of 11 from 40+ yards and kick offs need more height and distance. 64% make percentage. I expect better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Utah left tackle Garett Bolles forgoes senior season to declare for NFL draft: http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/utah-left-tackle-garett-bolles-declares-nfl-draft?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just now, UNDColorado said: Utah left tackle Garett Bolles forgoes senior season to declare for NFL draft: http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/utah-left-tackle-garett-bolles-declares-nfl-draft?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP_Sports That's two of their studs that have left early that I know of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SooToo Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 20 hours ago, gundy1124 said: I wasn't aware of the 2nd team honors, just an opinion. 4 of 11 from 40+ yards and kick offs need more height and distance. 64% make percentage. I expect better. In regards to field goals, I don't recall that height or distance was the issue on most misses this year; longitutde was. Always wondered how much the cast on his arm most of the season affected his kicking, particularly his accuracy. Big drop-off this year in success from 40+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, SooToo said: In regards to field goals, I don't recall that height or distance was the issue on most misses this year; longitutde was. Always wondered how much the cast on his arm most of the season affected his kicking, particularly his accuracy. Big drop-off this year in success from 40+. A miss is a miss with field goals, the longer they are the more risk of a block because of trajectory. I am referring to height and distance in regards to Kick-offs and Kick-off coverage. The more height and distance the more time the coverage team has to get down the field, get off blocks, make a tackle, preventing the other team from obtaining good field position and/or momentum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 30 minutes ago, SooToo said: In regards to field goals, I don't recall that height or distance was the issue on most misses this year; longitutde was. Always wondered how much the cast on his arm most of the season affected his kicking, particularly his accuracy. Big drop-off this year in success from 40+. Taubenheim does do a really good job of getting the ball up in a hurry. He struggles to drive through the ball though which is why he is absolute trash outdoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Looks like Arnell has tweeted NCAA ruled no hardship year for him. He's pretty upset and justly so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, Teeder11 said: Looks like Arnell has tweeted NCAA ruled no hardship year for him. He's pretty upset and justly so. Poor guy. !@#$ the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 24 minutes ago, Teeder11 said: Looks like Arnell has tweeted NCAA ruled no hardship year for him. He's pretty upset and justly so. Unbelievable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, AJS said: Unbelievable! Very believable. Like I said, !@#$ the NCAA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 i hope one day arnell pulls up to a loaf and jug outiside of fargo on his way to moab and conner wentz is pulling a double behind the counter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Hawk Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Tough, tough break for Arnell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 First Jaron Nash and now Zach Arnell. What. A. Joke. <bleep> you NCAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I figured Arnell was a shoe-in. Ridiculous. Ndsu hacks stole a season from him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 What are the general guidelines for medical hardship, have to have played less than a 1/3 of the season or something? He only played 3 games that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 4 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: I figured Arnell was a shoe-in. Ridiculous. Ndsu hacks stole a season from him. One of the dirtiest blocks I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Sioux94 said: What are the general guidelines for medical hardship, have to have played less than a 1/3 of the season or something? He only played 3 games that year. Did he redshirt earlier in his career? If so, I think that hurts his cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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