BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 20 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: I disagree with the way you're looking at it. Of our team is actually good then they can beat anyone. If not then this season is all a charade. There aren't many you agree with on this board. My reasoning is if we go undefeated in the conference, that will be remembered, more than if we played or didn't play Montana. A lot of posters here complain about the polls and who makes the playoffs. If we go undefeated in the conference and loose to Montana in the playoffs, or lose to them in the season; I'd choose the first. These pollsters and selection committee would most definitely notice an undefeated conference season in the Big Sky. Next year after we make this years run in the playoffs, bring on the best, but lets make some waves this year. A team builds from season to season when it marches to the top, it doesn't happen one weekend during the season. Quote
gundy1124 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 22 hours ago, Dustin said: Add to that list Southern Utah and Weber State (and NAU, if they get hot). I'm rooting for every team the UND plays to win all their other games. Amazingly, Montana State is the team that is disappointing us the most. Amazingly, we didn't beat Montana St. by more. After the game I said Montana State is going nowhere this year, they didn't pass the eye test. The direction we went and the direction Montana State went after the game with us couldn't be more different. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 20, 2016 Author Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: There aren't many you agree with on this board. My reasoning is if we go undefeated in the conference, that will be remembered, more than if we played or didn't play Montana. A lot of posters here complain about the polls and who makes the playoffs. If we go undefeated in the conference and loose to Montana in the playoffs, or lose to them in the season; I'd choose the first. These pollsters and selection committee would most definitely notice an undefeated conference season in the Big Sky. Next year after we make this years run in the playoffs, bring on the best, but lets make some waves this year. A team builds from season to season when it marches to the top, it doesn't happen one weekend during the season. I'm not scared of Montana or EWU. That's my point. Either we are the best in the conference or not. Quote
Popular Post WILDCAT Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Posted October 20, 2016 I looked up the current records of all the conference opponents of the top 4 teams in the conference Weber's conference opponents are currently 13-17 North Dakota's conference opponents are currently 12-16 Montana's conference opponents are currently 12-16 Eastern Washington's opponents are currently 10-18 Looks pretty even to me For giggles lets take out the top remaining team on each of their schedules Take North Dakota off of Weber's Schedule and Weber drops to 9-17 Take Weber State off of North Dakota's and North Dakota falls to 9-16 Take Eastern Wash off of Montana's and UM falls to 9-16 Take UM off of Eastern's and EWU falls to 8-17 Still very even. I guess the case I am trying to make is who can say who is the class of the Sky when everyone doesn't play everyone? Teams still have to win the games that are on their schedules. If Eastern and UM fans don't like that...tough. 14 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 3 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: I'm not scared of Montana or EWU. That's my point. Either we are the best in the conference or not. I agree with you. UND certainly may not be favored in every FCS-to-FCS contest, but they absolutely do have a chance to win each and every contest. The confidence now with UND in each game is necessary to win championships. Bubba is injecting confidence into his program and, also, the fans which is a good sign. 2 Quote
jdub27 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 1 hour ago, WILDCAT said: I looked up the current records of all the conference opponents of the top 4 teams in the conference Weber's conference opponents are currently 13-17 North Dakota's conference opponents are currently 12-16 Montana's conference opponents are currently 12-16 Eastern Washington's opponents are currently 10-18 Looks pretty even to me For giggles lets take out the top remaining team on each of their schedules Take North Dakota off of Weber's Schedule and Weber drops to 9-17 Take Weber State off of North Dakota's and North Dakota falls to 9-16 Take Eastern Wash off of Montana's and UM falls to 9-16 Take UM off of Eastern's and EWU falls to 8-17 Still very even. I guess the case I am trying to make is who can say who is the class of the Sky when everyone doesn't play everyone? Teams still have to win the games that are on their schedules. If Eastern and UM fans don't like that...tough. Good analysis. Cal Poly definitely got the what appears to be the toughest draw getting UND, UM, EWU and Weber. 1 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Good analysis. Cal Poly definitely got the what appears to be the toughest draw getting UND, UM, EWU and Weber. Given we have already beat Cal-Poly, I hope they win the rest of those games. Seeing the beat EWU would really be great, as well as having MT be EWU. I'm hoping NAU can pull the upset against the griz this weekend. If MT lost 2, and EWU lost 3, AND UND finished undefeated in the Big Sky, we will have a really good chance at a nice seed. Long ways to go before that, but its fun to speculate. Quote
AJS Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: Given we have already beat Cal-Poly, I hope they win the rest of those games. Seeing the beat EWU would really be great, as well as having MT be EWU. I'm hoping NAU can pull the upset against the griz this weekend. If MT lost 2, and EWU lost 3, AND UND finished undefeated in the Big Sky, we will have a really good chance at a nice seed. Long ways to go before that, but its fun to speculate. If Cal Poly wins out, they'd definitely be ranked higher than UND, based on their wins over 3 Top 10 teams. Quote
siouxfan512 Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 20 minutes ago, AJS said: If Cal Poly wins out, they'd definitely be ranked higher than UND, based on their wins over 3 Top 10 teams. hmm solid point. Not sure what the optimal way would be to get us the highest seed possible. Again, the goal is playoffs, and a seed may not happen, but it would sure be nice. Quote
AJS Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: hmm solid point. Not sure what the optimal way would be to get us the highest seed possible. Again, the goal is playoffs, and a seed may not happen, but it would sure be nice. I've thought about that too, since UND is currently 4th out of the Top 4 BSC teams in every ranking. EWU still has to play both Poly and Montanta. IMO, it's best for UND to not only win out (obviously), but also have EWU beat both Poly and Montana. I'm cheering for Poly in every game except EWU. Cheering against Montana every step of the way. This is looking at it strictly from a standpoint of what would help UND get the highest seed possible. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 20, 2016 Posted October 20, 2016 My dream scenario: EWU loses to Montana and Cal Poly. Finishes 8-3 = playoffs Montana loses to 2 teams not named EWU. NAU and UNC are most likely (still pretty slim). Finishes 8-3 = playoffs - SECOND LEAST LIKELY TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN Cal Poly loss to Weber. Cal Poly wins all other games. Finishes 8-3 = playoffs Weber wins every game except against UND. Finishes 8-3 = playoffs - THIRD LEAST LIKELY TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN SUU loses to Weber and BYU. Finishes 6-5 = DONE.... Sorry, hacks. USD wins 4/5 (very tall order). Finishes 7-4 = playoffs (we've seen an MVFC team can sneak in at 6-5 too) - LEAST LIKELY TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN Stony Brook wins out. Finishes 9-2 = CAA Champs and playoffs UND wins out. Finishes 9-2 with 9 straight wins = BSC Champs, playoffs, and a seed (3 quality wins, 1 "quality" FCS loss, and 1 FBS loss) Most importantly though.... Let's beat the crap out of Idaho State on Saturday. 2 Quote
Popular Post Cratter Posted October 20, 2016 Popular Post Posted October 20, 2016 9 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: On paper. Maybe EWU and UM have down years again (it happens). Maybe NAU (with Cookus healthy), Cal Poly (who can't be stopped with the undeniably greatest FB ever in Protheroe), and Weber are all solid next year and we don't play them. The UM fans anointing themselves the keepers of the BSC Championship, who you have to beat in order to claim it, isn't an idea we should be feeding, IMO. I don't like the unbalanced schedule. It sucks. It provides aid to certain teams and provides excuses for the others. But UM lost the right to complain in San Luis Obispo. Montana Fans: UND has an easy schedule. You don't have to play us. Sorry Montana, last I checked you weren't at the top of the Big Sky Standing. 5 Quote
Matt Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 I starting to think this program will have REALLY arrived when Griz fans troll this site. 3 Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 Last year we had a vastly improved team from years past and we just missed the playoffs. Early this year we were still finding ourselves to be an even better team. What's happened in the first 7 weeks; injuries, young players filling in, great coaching with some fan ridiculed simple play calling, coaches working hard at mentally and physically developing our players, players working hard and smart to mold into a good team, coaches using more complicated plays as the season progresses, one week at a time mentality, and so on. We are most definitely a better team now than at the first game. We have a lot of talented players. We don’t need to play Montana to be noticed. The Big Sky schedule is what it is. What we need to do is continue improving and WIN OUT. A FBS loss, a 9-1 FCS record with 8-0 Big Sky record and a 1-1 non-conference record with 2 teams at or above the playoff bubble will do us just fine. In the past 14 months; Montana, SD and SDSU have beat the Bison, all with time running out. At the rate we are improving, come playoff time, bring on the Bison, and Bubba will Leave No Doubt 3 Quote
ClassB Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 13 hours ago, WILDCAT said: I looked up the current records of all the conference opponents of the top 4 teams in the conference Weber's conference opponents are currently 13-17 North Dakota's conference opponents are currently 12-16 Montana's conference opponents are currently 12-16 Eastern Washington's opponents are currently 10-18 Looks pretty even to me For giggles lets take out the top remaining team on each of their schedules Take North Dakota off of Weber's Schedule and Weber drops to 9-17 Take Weber State off of North Dakota's and North Dakota falls to 9-16 Take Eastern Wash off of Montana's and UM falls to 9-16 Take UM off of Eastern's and EWU falls to 8-17 Still very even. I guess the case I am trying to make is who can say who is the class of the Sky when everyone doesn't play everyone? Teams still have to win the games that are on their schedules. If Eastern and UM fans don't like that...tough. This is how to properly watch a board and occasionally contribute. Quote
Nodak78 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 http://nobowls.com/ All 4 Dakota schools in this bracket. Also 5 Big sky and MVFC schools each. Quote
CMSioux Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 I thought the goal (shared publically at least) was to make it a true national tournament and not base the pairings on saving travel costs. If saving travel is a top priority this playoff is a joke. Nobowls has Youngstown winning the MVFC but SU with a higher seed? Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: http://nobowls.com/ All 4 Dakota schools in this bracket. Also 5 Big sky and MVFC schools each. If we can win out, maybe we replace E. Washington or Montana ? Quote
Nodak78 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 1 minute ago, CMSioux said: I thought the goal (shared publically at least) was to make it a true national tournament and not base the pairings on saving travel costs. If saving travel is a top priority this playoff is a joke. Nobowls has Youngstown winning the MVFC but SU with a higher seed? They have UND winning the league and both Montana and EWU with seeds. Quote
Nodak78 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 UND wins out is still no respect according to this bracket. we just have to win. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Nodak78 said: UND wins out is still no respect according to this bracket. we just have to win. We don't have any pollster respect yet, that is probably the norm for an improving team like UND. Some teams rated above us will lose, and that will help us move up, of course we have to keep winning. 1 Quote
Cratter Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Nodak78 said: They have UND winning the league and both Montana and EWU with seeds. Welcome to FCS Football. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 EWU has, so far, earned the right to be seeded ahead of us. Quote
2TRU4U Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 getting the auto-bid does not guarantee a seed and bye. the committee has shown that in the past. Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted October 21, 2016 Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Nodak78 said: They have UND winning the league and both Montana and EWU with seeds. Still way to early. Way to many games left to even be talking about brackets. 1 Quote
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