siouxfan512 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Didn't realize that Montana had a fairly weak schedule this season too. Other than Eastern Wash, MT doesn't have another overly challenging opponent. Would like to see them beat Eastern, and UND run the table. UND Montana Different Opponents Stony Brook Saint Francis Bowling Green UNI South Dakota Mississippi Valley State Weber State Eastern Washington Similar Opponents Montana State Cal Poly Cal Poly Southern Utah Sacramento State Sacramento State Southern Utah Northern Arizona Idaho State Idaho State Northern Colorado Northern Colorado Northern Arizona Montana State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBH2010 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Dustin said: It appears that as long as we make the playoffs, a date with NDSU is in our future. That will be the case pretty much every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 50 minutes ago, dmksioux said: According to Sagarin, Montana's SOS is #187 in all of College football UND's SOS is #174 in all of college football So yep, UND has played a more difficult schedule... EDIT: Can't get it to copy and paste. what about EWU? Can you post the link to where you're getting this information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 18 minutes ago, Dustin said: what about EWU? Can you post the link to where you're getting this information? EWU @ #119 SOS; NDSU @ #115; UNI at #109 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: EWU @ #119 SOS; NDSU @ #115; UNI at #109 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ Thanks. According to Sagarin, Northern Iowa is the 4th highest ranked FCS team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 47 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: EWU @ #119 SOS; NDSU @ #115; UNI at #109 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ Really sucks that Bowling Green's only win is against us. And Sagarin has them ranked below us at 143. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Really sucks that Bowling Green's only win is against us. And Sagarin has them ranked below us at 143. Sucks that we played soo bad the first few weeks. If we had played like these past few games, we would have cleaned up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said: Didn't realize that Montana had a fairly weak schedule this season too. Other than Eastern Wash, MT doesn't have another overly challenging opponent. Would like to see them beat Eastern, and UND run the table. UND Montana Different Opponents Stony Brook Saint Francis Bowling Green UNI South Dakota Mississippi Valley State Weber State Eastern Washington Similar Opponents Montana State Cal Poly Cal Poly Southern Utah Sacramento State Sacramento State Southern Utah Northern Arizona Idaho State Idaho State Northern Colorado Northern Colorado Northern Arizona Montana State The coyotes also beat UNI. that can't hurt us either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 2 hours ago, KBH2010 said: That will be the case pretty much every time. Actually it's no better than 50/50 that UND will end up playing NDSU even if you do make the playoffs. If you're not seeded, you'll have to win your first round game, probably on the road, for this game to happen. If you are seeded, both teams will, at least, have to win their 2nd round games. It is, of course, possible that they could be paired in the first round in the unlikely event that neither team is seeded. At this point I'd give an NDSU/UND matchup a 1 in 4 chance of actually happening. Simply because, even if they are both in the playoffs, one of the teams is likely to lose before that match up actually happens. For instance, NDSU and SDSU have both qualified for the playoffs in the same year four times, yet they have only played each other in the playoffs twice. and the Rabbits had to win their first game to get to the Bison both times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, Gothmog said: If you're not seeded, you'll have to win your first round game, probably on the road, for this game to happen. Based on what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambone Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, jdub27 said: Based on what? In all truth, I think that we would have a good shot at out-bidding Western Illinois, but likely wouldn't be able to outbid SDSU (if those are the two likely opponents we may be looking at). I would think that Faison would put in a fairly healthy bid, although with the budget issues who knows. A playoff win at home would be huge for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 35 minutes ago, Hambone said: In all truth, I think that we would have a good shot at out-bidding Western Illinois, but likely wouldn't be able to outbid SDSU (if those are the two likely opponents we may be looking at). I would think that Faison would put in a fairly healthy bid, although with the budget issues who knows. A playoff win at home would be huge for the future. That is at least a fair assumption instead of just saying UND would probably be on the road. Last year, WIU either didn't bid or got outbid by non-scholarship Dayton, to play in front of 997 fans (not a typo). Hard to say about SDSU. They've been outbid by Montana, Montana State and NAU the last three years for first round games. They did host EIU in 2012, but I'm not sure that says much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Hambone said: In all truth, I think that we would have a good shot at out-bidding Western Illinois, but likely wouldn't be able to outbid SDSU (if those are the two likely opponents we may be looking at). I would think that Faison would put in a fairly healthy bid, although with the budget issues who knows. A playoff win at home would be huge for the future. I would like to think UND could outbid SDSU, but hard to say. Largely depends on anticipated attendance; SDSU having an outdoor venue could negatively impact attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: I would like to think UND could outbid SDSU, but hard to say. Largely depends on anticipated attendance; SDSU having an outdoor venue could negatively impact attendance. I holding out for a 7 or 8 place seed. Then SDSU or WIU can play to visit us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I'd guess there is no chance SDSU let's anyone not named Montana out bid them in their first year with the new stadium. Regardless of attendance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 34 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: I would like to think UND could outbid SDSU, but hard to say. Largely depends on anticipated attendance; SDSU having an outdoor venue could negatively impact attendance. Attendance gets an AD to a base bid, then it's donor based and the bid can be an infinite amount. Get the F'n check books out boys. I meant F'n Hawk. In theory, we can out bid anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND1 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 For last year the school kicked in the minimum NCAA bid of 35K and five private donors ponied up an additional 65k. If the same thing happened this year, I guarantee 100k would secure a first round playoff game... Money talks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 30 minutes ago, ND1 said: For last year the school kicked in the minimum NCAA bid of 35K and five private donors ponied up an additional 65k. If the same thing happened this year, I guarantee 100k would secure a first round playoff game... Money talks!! You are wise. Confidence was high for a home play-off based on UNDs bid, except we failed to get in......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 22 hours ago, AJS said: Here's the thing I'm struggling to figure out about everyone talking about UND's weak conference schedule. Wouldn't the same apply to EWU and Montana then as well? I know they play each other, but based on their logic that UND doesn't play anybody, wouldn't both those schools only play 1 good conference opponent? I would say that's a pretty weak conference schedule as well. That doesn't say much for the Big Sky as a whole. We apparently don't give ourselves much credit, wonder why pollsters don't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 According to Sagarin Montana strength of schedule is 187. Our Strength of schedule is 174. Maybe the narrative should be changed to Montana doesn't play UND. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: According to Sagarin Montana strength of schedule is 187. Our Strength of schedule is 174. Maybe the narrative should be changed to Montana doesn't play UND. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/ That's great, now that's how one gives credit to UND and the Big Sky as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 According to both FCS playoff projections available (nobowls, Stats), there are 4 Big Sky teams in the field if the season ended today, same as MVFC, with Southern Utah as a bubble. So the Big Sky can't be that bad. CAA has the most at 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 11 hours ago, ND1 said: For last year the school kicked in the minimum NCAA bid of 35K and five private donors ponied up an additional 65k. If the same thing happened this year, I guarantee 100k would secure a first round playoff game... Money talks!! Question for you: Are the 8 home teams for the first round determined by the 8 highest bids, and then low/no bid teams are paired up with them, with geography as a potential factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Dustin said: Question for you: Are the 8 home teams for the first round determined by the 8 highest bids, and then low/no bid teams are paired up with them, with geography as a potential factor? Or, are the matchups pre-determined, and then they play at the school who bid higher between the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, Dustin said: Question for you: Are the 8 home teams for the first round determined by the 8 highest bids, and then low/no bid teams are paired up with them, with geography as a potential factor? No the 8 seeded teams are picked by the committee. In theory by their record and SOS. So if UND wins out they should be considered to be a top 8 seed. Look forward to the next committee screw job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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