geaux_sioux Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 NDSU got fat and happy. Made some bad choices in bringing in the wrong players and UND rebuilt with lessor talent but harder workers. Maybe other teams benefitted from the trickle down talent but UND just plain got better and it would have happened regardless of reduction or not. The proof is how great we were in the 70s. We can go head to head with NDSU, just not in the 80s or in the recent FCS history due to very low troughs in our programs history. Other than those two times UND has been pretty even with NDSU in everything other than national titles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siouxphan27 Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 .....so in summary, a level playing field is unfair to ndsu. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: .....so in summary, a level playing field is unfair to ndsu. These funny little one liners may be cute, but they certainly aren't accurate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: .....so in summary, a level playing field is unfair to ndsu. I don't think anyone suggested it was unfair, it definitely hurts the teams at the top though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bison06 said: These funny little one liners may be cute, but they certainly aren't accurate. neither was your war and peace length novel explaining away why ndsu fell from dominance in the 90s. carry on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Siouxphan27 said: neither was your war and peace length novel explaining away why ndsu fell from dominance in the 90s. carry on. Some ideas are more complex than your clever one line responses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4192827-bresciani-named-finalist-ohio-u-job-says-new-opportunities-have-become-particularly Must be a hell of in interviewer. His track record at NDSU is certainly less than impresive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4192827-bresciani-named-finalist-ohio-u-job-says-new-opportunities-have-become-particularly Must be a hell of in interviewer. His track record at NDSU is certainly less than impresive. It is always easier to find a job while you have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 29 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Some ideas are more complex than your clever one line responses. When/if you get one, please let us know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said: http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4192827-bresciani-named-finalist-ohio-u-job-says-new-opportunities-have-become-particularinyly Must be a hell of in interviewer. His track record at NDSU is certainly less than impresive. Compared to Kupjello (zero vision or ideas, out of town and unavailable for contact, no change advocate) and Kelley (pushed out under faculty mutiny and zero rapport with student population; major lack of control and budgeting issues), Brescani is a rock star. Brescani had great vision for the university, dug it out of a major budget problem, grew academic profile and funding; supported DI athletics the nth degree, had a 86% favorable rating with faculty and is loved by the students. Less than impressive, compared to what? Sure, ndsu haters want him gone . . . why do you think that is? A little objectivity would be good when considering what Brescani has done. He is Trump compared to your Obamas when it comes to accomplishing actual work. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 So at least Bresciani's consistent: He's looking to be president at the second best public university in that state too. C'mon ... it's a good one-liner. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Herd said: Compared to Kupjello (zero vision or ideas, out of town and unavailable for contact, no change advocate) and Kelley (pushed out under faculty mutiny and zero rapport with student population; major lack of control and budgeting issues), Brescani is a rock star. Brescani had great vision for the university, dug it out of a major budget problem, grew academic profile and funding; supported DI athletics the nth degree, had a 86% favorable rating with faculty and is loved by the students. Less than impressive, compared to? UND? Agree that we have a presidents house made of glass. Yours may look like brick but it's glass as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Bison06 said: These funny little one liners may be cute, but they certainly aren't accurate. Siouxphan27's one liners are to the point, and with a little humor, there GREAT! Sounds like you are challenged at getting you multi lined posts across in one line? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, Herd said: Compared to Kupjello (zero vision or ideas, out of town and unavailable for contact, no change advocate) and Kelley (pushed out under faculty mutiny and zero rapport with student population; major lack of control and budgeting issues), Brescani is a rock star. Brescani had great vision for the university, dug it out of a major budget problem, grew academic profile and funding; supported DI athletics the nth degree, had a 86% favorable rating with faculty and is loved by the students. Less than impressive, compared to what? Sure, ndsu haters want him gone . . . why do you think that is? A little objectivity would be good when considering what Brescani has done. He is Trump compared to Obama when it comes to accomplishing actual work. Speaking of objectivity: Guessing you think Chapman was a rock star too? While UND has had some issues with past presidents (who have done plenty of good things along with well documented issues), I don't see UND supporters pretending that those bad thing didn't exist. Meanwhile down in Fargo anytime something negative comes up about NDSU: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Herd said: Compared to Kupjello (zero vision or ideas, out of town and unavailable for contact, no change advocate) and Kelley (pushed out under faculty mutiny and zero rapport with student population; major lack of control and budgeting issues), Brescani is a rock star. Brescani had great vision for the university, dug it out of a major budget problem, grew academic profile and funding; supported DI athletics the nth degree, had a 86% favorable rating with faculty and is loved by the students. Less than impressive, compared to what? Sure, ndsu haters want him gone . . . why do you think that is? A little objectivity would be good when considering what Brescani has done. He is Trump compared to Obama when it comes to accomplishing actual work. Got ya, know what you mean, Ohio Trumps Brescani, NDBHE says "Thak You"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just now, jdub27 said: Speaking of objectivity: Guessing you think Chapman was a rock star too? I said Brescani was great compared to the last two bums you guys had. That's all I said. Did I mention Chapman at all? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 13 hours ago, Bison06 said: Just take a minute and use some logic and you'll understand. It's really quite simple. I'all use an FBS example. If this afternoon the NCAA announced that they were reducing the amount of scholarships from 85-76, 9 players that would have been on Alabamas roster are now on another team's roster. 9 players, scholarship players, good players that could turn into stars and/contributors are now on another teams roster. 9 players from clemsons roster, 9 players from Ohio state, Washington, Michigan, Oklahoma etc, 9 players from each of those rosters are now on a "lesser" team's roster. who gets worse? Who gets better? Maybe alabama had it down to 2 really great running backs coming out of high school. RB just happens to be a position that they don't have a huge need this year in recruiting so they have allocated only 1 scholarship to the position. So they take the one that they think is better, but really it's a toss up. The other guy takes a scholarship to auburn and turns into a star. The guy Alabama took was riddled with injuries and didn't see the field much, non contributor. If they had those 9 scholarships the auburn kid would have been on their roster. Quick and small example, but it's easy to see that the teams at the top are hurt by a scholarship reduction while the teams at the bottom are helped, as kids who would have likely accepted a scholarship to Alabama were now at auburn. Scholarship reduction hurt them for a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 52 minutes ago, DaveK said: Reduced scholarships applied to all D2 teams equally, it was not exclusive to NDSU so I call BS on that sorry excuse. Rules can apply to everyone while hurting some more than others. Say they take checking out of hockey...will that impact certain teams more than others while also applying to everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 How many scholarships increases do we think FCS would have needed this year to help NDSU and Montana play for the championship? 4.7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 8 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: Rules can apply to everyone while hurting some more than others. Say they take checking out of hockey...will that impact certain teams more than others while also applying to everyone? NDSU went from 1991-2003 without playing for a title or even hosting a playoff game in the Fargodome. I think their problems went deeper than scholarship reductions. Its called finding their strong point and destroying it, and thats what UND and other teams did. Kill the veer! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 So with Fleck now going to Minnesota, the coaching carousel has begun. Will be interesting to see if Kleiman will be considered at WMU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said: So with Fleck now going to Minnesota, the coaching carousel has begun. Will be interesting to see if Kleiman will be considered at WMU. That's the tough part about hiring a young coach at the FCS level. If they're successful they'll leave for a FBS school. I'm sure Klieman will be atleast talked about being the replacement coach at WMU and I think they should hire him. It would be interesting to see what NDSU would do. They should probably try to do the same thing and retain one the coordinators to take over. My bet is they try to bring in some wash out from the east coast. Somebody who has coached at the FBS level with limited success. I know I'm way ahead of myself on this one, but I'd Like to see what that administration would do. My bet is not the smart thing. We'll get to see if Larsen can fill Taylor's shoes if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 11 hours ago, Cratter said: How many scholarships increases do we think FCS would have needed this year to help NDSU and Montana play for the championship? 4.7? I think cutting DI hockey scholarships in half would be a good idea, and would have no impact on the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Herd said: I think cutting DI hockey scholarships in half would be a good idea, and would have no impact on the sport. Actually, it would help the schools with something more than a scholarship to offer (tradition, facilities, path to the next level) but it would hurt the overall game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herd Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Actually, it would help the schools with something more than a scholarship to offer (tradition, facilities, path to the next level) but it would hurt the overall game. it would throw healthy restricter plate on any strong engine, booster club, and fundraising. Yes, you might get the best players that want to walk-on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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