choyt3 Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 You call him Bruce? Cool bro. "B. A." was already taken. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Well, I woke up this morning still angry. Turkey day can't get here soon enough.amen to that Quote
petey23 Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 All 5 MVFC teams were on one side because SDSU !@#$ the bed and lost their seed. After that, it all becomes regionalization. That is written into the selection committees criteria, but keep crying that it is a conspiracy (note that I'm not agreeing with it, strictly pointing out that it is laid out for all to see). Before the selection show, the complaint was that McNeese was a mirage but would get seeded above NDSU. The committee gave the MVFC fans exactly what they wanted, ISU and NDSU were the next best teams behind JSU. Not hard to work backwards from there and see how the bracket ended up the way it does when regionalization is written into the criteria of how the brackets are set. As for the toughest conference thing, Sagarin has the Big Sky as the #2 conference. Here's how the top 5 conferences, in Sagarin's order of "toughness" fared.1. MVFC - 5 of 10 (50% of the conference) made the field. Had 5 eligible teams (100% success rate)2. Big Sky - 3 of 13 (23% of the conference) made the field. Had 7 eligible teams (43% success rate)3. Southern - 2 of 8 (25% of the conference) made the field. Had 3 eligible teams (67% success rate)4. CAA - 4 of 12 (33% of the conference) made the field. Had 6 eligible teams (67% success rate)5. OVC - 2 of 9 (22% of the conference) made the field. Had 4 eligible teams (50% success rate)The 2nd hardest conference had the least success. Since its all about conference strength, I'd love to hear your explanation.Looks like the Big Sky needs a stronger advocate in the room. 3 Quote
petey23 Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 FIFY. I remember in the 90's they were considering changing out the turf in the Fargo Big Building and replacing it with paper. Quote
Sodacker Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I haven't followed fcs until these last few years but the whole level seems just at rinky dink and small time as dII. We have conferences not even wanting their champions participate in the playoffs, others that don't want any post season play, others that have no scholarships, first round matchups being decided to save a few bucks on travel, and still having a mysterious back room meeting on Saturday night to decide who gets in with no objective criteria. I know we were excited to move "up" but it doesn't feel like an upgrade at all. 1 Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 ahh yeah, should I call him something else?wait, Anderson isn't his FIRST name?#lastnamesthatcanbeusedasfirstnameproblems Quote
Popular Post Sioux94 Posted November 23, 2015 Popular Post Posted November 23, 2015 All I can say is......when a majority of NDSU fans say we got screwed.......that means there is no doubt we got screwed! 6 Quote
Irish Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Has anyone posted any contact info for the selection idiots - I feel like they need some input. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Well, I woke up this morning still angry. Turkey day can't get here soon enough.As for the toughest conference thing, Sagarin has the Big Sky as the #2 conference. Here's how the top 5 conferences, in Sagarin's order of "toughness" fared.1. MVFC - 5 of 10 (50% of the conference) made the field. Had 5 eligible teams (100% success rate)2. Big Sky - 3 of 13 (23% of the conference) made the field. Had 7 eligible teams (43% success rate)3. Southern - 2 of 8 (25% of the conference) made the field. Had 3 eligible teams (67% success rate)4. CAA - 4 of 12 (33% of the conference) made the field. Had 6 eligible teams (67% success rate)5. OVC - 2 of 9 (22% of the conference) made the field. Had 4 eligible teams (50% success rate)The 2nd hardest conference had the least success. This isn't making me less angry.... Quote
UND1981 Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 And we were expecting something better from the NCAA? Need to have 2 more wins next year to keep us off the bubble. Quote
jdub27 Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 This isn't making me less angry.... I unfortunately agree. Was hoping to find a silver lining as I was putting it together. Obviously that didn't happen. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I just went and looked at New Hampshire's 7-4: http://caasports.com/schedule.aspx?schedule=1889Best win: Richmond (at UNH). Between UNH and EIU (and WIU to some extent), I'm just shaking my head. Quote
CMSioux Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Looks like the Big Sky needs a stronger advocate in the room.Has the Big Sky Commissioner spoke out about this at all. If we don't get at least 4-5 all conference players this year I will say that the Big Sky doesn't care about UND and it's time for us to ask for better treatment from the conference. Don't give me you have to earn your respect because last year there were schools that had worse records than UND that got plenty of all conference recognition. I would hope the BSC is making some noise with the National Corrupted Athletic Association (which by the way would make a great sign). Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I'll ask it again:Is this "6-5 team in" move a first step in taking a 24 team field up to 32 teams? They could pull in UND, EWU, NAU, and some of the "8+ win total but weak conference" teams to fill out the bracket. Edited November 23, 2015 by The Sicatoka 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 The first time a 6 win team has EVER made the playoffs, for a team with no wins against a seeded opponent no less. And they booted a 7-4 team with an FBS win and a win against a seeded team to do it. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 The first time a 6 win team has EVER made the playoffs, for a team with no wins against a seeded opponent no less. And they booted a 7-4 team with an FBS win and a win against a seeded team to do it.I don't EVER want to hear about "7 wins" as a minimum requirement for the playoffs EVER again. That idea was flushed down the toilet yesterday at 10am CT. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I'll ask it again:Is this "6-5 team in" move a first step in taking a 24 team field up to 32 teams? They could pull in UND, EWU, NAU, and some of the "8+ win total but weak conference" teams to fill out the bracket. That makes sense. And I would be against it. 24 is too big as it is. 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I don't EVER want to hear about "7 wins" as a minimum requirement for the playoffs EVER again. That idea was flushed down the toilet yesterday at 10am CT.It was more like 10:28 am CT, but yeah. 1 Quote
petey23 Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Too much focus on WIU here. UNDSHSUWIUNAUUNHE. IllinoisUND should have been safely in the field. Edited November 23, 2015 by petey23 Quote
NYSioux Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Has the Big Sky Commissioner spoke out about this at all. If we don't get at least 4-5 all conference players this year I will say that the Big Sky doesn't care about UND and it's time for us to ask for better treatment from the conference. Don't give me you have to earn your respect because last year there were schools that had worse records than UND that got plenty of all conference recognition. I would hope the BSC is making some noise with the National Corrupted Athletic Association (which by the way would make a great sign).The assistant commissioner was pretty vocal about it on Twitter yesterday. 1 Quote
choyt3 Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I'll ask it again:Is this "6-5 team in" move a first step in taking a 24 team field up to 32 teams? They could pull in UND, EWU, NAU, and some of the "8+ win total but weak conference" teams to fill out the bracket. Why not be like the Minnesota High School League and have ALL the teams make the playoffs? No surprises that way. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 I'm going to be to pussed and bitter about this for a long time. Hopefully the excitement of the recruiting season will take the edge off. To truly get over it 100% is going to take a playoff birth next season and a deep run. Even then I'll probably still have that what if feeling and major sympathy for the seniors.As you should be. But know this; Bubba and his staff will use this snub as prime bulletin board material all off-season (spring practice, summer strength and conditioning, fall practice). And it will only motivate our younger guys even more to come out on fire next season. I think Bowling Green is in for a fight against us. Quote
UNDColorado Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Little tidbit from yesterday: Western Illinois had a "watch party" at 6-5. You telling us things weren't going on behind scenes? From SFI ^ Edited November 23, 2015 by UNDColorado 1 Quote
UNDColorado Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Why would a 6-5 team have a watch party? This seems odd to me.Another question that nobody has asked: If the tables were turned and UND was in, Do WIU and EIU have a legitimate argument? Absolutely not. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Why would a 6-5 team have a watch party? This seems odd to me.Another question that nobody has asked: If the tables were turned and UND was in, Do WIU and EIU have a legitimate argument? Absolutely not.The fix was in. Quote
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