geaux_sioux Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Honest critique. It looks like a crow or raven. Too much black.Out of our school colors black seemed like the only choice to not end up with a corny logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Honest critique. It looks like a crow or raven. Too much black.Mentioning that, hawks don't say "caw-caw". That's crow-speak. (I bring this up based on a GFHerald story on Friday's hockey game and a couple posts here.) Hawks screech. Edited November 23, 2015 by The Sicatoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yellow beak with black tip is cool, neck seems wide...? The eye doesn't do it for me. Unless it has meaning that i dont know? The start you have though is super cool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) How much money does the UND Red Bulls get?Enough for a new on campus football stadium? Edited November 24, 2015 by Cratter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Yellow beak with black tip is cool, neck seems wide...? The eye doesn't do it for me. Unless it has meaning that i dont know? The start you have though is super cool...The eyes are a combo of traditional Native American bird artwork and a nod the most recent sioux logo. They also, and most importantly, different from any bird logo I've seen. They almost all have the same eyes. If there's a spot to differentiate our bird logo from all others it's in the eye. I'm working on a version with an adjusted neck\feather region so we'lol see how that looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEH Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Honest critique. It looks like a crow or raven. Too much black.I agree too much black, I understand going for the school colors though. Maybe the feathers around the neck could throw back to the old logo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 geaux: My advice is not worry about how it looks on a 1920x1080 full HDMI screen and more about how it'll look shrunk to fit on the front of a ball cap. If it is too complex it'll manufacture terribly and look even worse. Yep, I love the most recent Sioux logo but shrunk down on a ball cap or similar it was too busy. A great, great logo, but IMO didn't merchandise well when small. Small needs very simple, uncluttered images.I prefer the one with the black-tipped beak. I still think something needs to be done with the back feather, I'd either shrink or remove it. When the logo is shrunk down, it can end up looking like a beaked black blob. Perhaps it should be done in more of a charcoal gray so it doesn't drown out the other colors so much? Maybe make the eye all white rather than having the color strip at the bottom. Also, try coloring the area around the eye to make it more distinct. I'd also be interested in seeing it with heavier outlining/more color on the lower feathers to make them a bit more distinct.Agree wit the black-tipped beak, and with the back feather. geaux-sioux, I give you a lot of credit for all of the hard work you are doing. I couldn't do what you're doing. You did ask for feedback and one of the first things that comes to my mind is, while I think this is pretty cool looking and has potential, the first thing I see is a crow that had a bad night. I'm not exactly sure how to turn that into a hawk image that I think is great, and others are giving some good feedback. But that's just my take when I first see it. A crow that hasn't combed its feathers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) The alumni assoc. is begging people to reconsider. And they used the old it's for the children as part of the reason. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/3889318-und-alumni-association-appeals-donors-unhappy-new-und-nickname Edited November 24, 2015 by Vegas_Sioux 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The alumni assoc. is begging people to reconsider. And they used the old it's for the children as part of the reason. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/3889318-und-alumni-association-appeals-donors-unhappy-new-und-nicknameNot quite..."It wasn't a direct appeal to send us money, it was more to remind people that this is what we do it for,"People have been threatening to pull donations for a decade and the Alumni Foundation keeps getting more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted November 24, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2015 The alumni assoc. is begging people to reconsider. And they used the old it's for the children as part of the reason. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/3889318-und-alumni-association-appeals-donors-unhappy-new-und-nicknameIsn't the point of the Alumni Association to gather money for the betterment of the University and its students? Seems like they are reminding people about that and reinforcing their mission to those who seem to have forgotten what it is. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The alumni assoc. is begging people to reconsider. And they used the old it's for the children as part of the reason.http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/3889318-und-alumni-association-appeals-donors-unhappy-new-und-nicknameHey, if you want to join the haters, be my guest. I'll stick with the Alumni Association and their hard work making this a better place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 https://www.google.com/search?q=Best+Hawk+picture+ever&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2-PkzqnJAhWBQSYKHZqECsQQ_AUIBygB&biw=1920&bih=1021&dpr=1#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACWiI-Abx5tE8IjjkwRBCf3rLSm6Ib2vHRkM4zogQj2W2uEgyl1we77_1DG6liKqPVekjN2PtX5uN2xhfzdmMHBqGLTioSCeTBEEJ_1estKERWiyr8OfnPOKhIJbohva8dGQzgR32Z1k6FPhIUqEgnOiBCPZba4SBE25HinlpwcfCoSCTKXXB7vv8MbETse5TiNBeEpKhIJqWIqo9V6SM0RW4OwUN4b8hcqEgnY-1fm43bGFxHGrMM71Sk0jCoSCfN2YwcGoYtOEWyscxRyZ_17-&q=Best%20Hawk%20picture%20ever&hl=en&gl=us&imgrc=aIj4BvHm0TyxVM%3A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND1981 Posted November 24, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2015 Hey, if you want to join the haters, be my guest. I'll stick with the Alumni Association and their hard work making this a better place.I'm in the club that will continue to support UND, hates the new nickname and will continue to wear my Fighting Sioux stuff to UND games. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 https://www.google.com/search?q=Best+Hawk+picture+ever&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic2-PkzqnJAhWBQSYKHZqECsQQ_AUIBygB&biw=1920&bih=1021&dpr=1#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACWiI-Abx5tE8IjjkwRBCf3rLSm6Ib2vHRkM4zogQj2W2uEgyl1we77_1DG6liKqPVekjN2PtX5uN2xhfzdmMHBqGLTioSCeTBEEJ_1estKERWiyr8OfnPOKhIJbohva8dGQzgR32Z1k6FPhIUqEgnOiBCPZba4SBE25HinlpwcfCoSCTKXXB7vv8MbETse5TiNBeEpKhIJqWIqo9V6SM0RW4OwUN4b8hcqEgnY-1fm43bGFxHGrMM71Sk0jCoSCfN2YwcGoYtOEWyscxRyZ_17-&q=Best%20Hawk%20picture%20ever&hl=en&gl=us&imgrc=aIj4BvHm0TyxVM%3Ait maybe awesome (debatable) but can you readily indentify which school (elementary schools included) it represents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimera Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Hmmm interesting.... shark eating a fetus? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Little nation wide advertising .. Check out @Buccigross's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Buccigross/status/670255147105275905?s=09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 UND Fighting Yin-Yangs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetch Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 someone candled a fertilized Hawk egg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGreyAnt41 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Took me a minute, but I see it now. Pretty cool but a bit too abstract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Mentioning that, hawks don't say "caw-caw". That's crow-speak. (I bring this up based on a GFHerald story on Friday's hockey game and a couple posts here.) Hawks screech. Now that would get the 80 year old hockey fans to sit up in their seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) I'm in the club that will continue to support UND, hates the new nickname and will continue to wear my Fighting Sioux stuff to UND games.Until the day Bridges get UND to turn us away at the door. Edited November 27, 2015 by CMSioux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Took me a minute, but I see it now. Pretty cool but a bit too abstract.Do I need to look at it upside down with one eye closed or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigskyvikes Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Do I need to look at it upside down with one eye closed or what? Im with you...what the hell is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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