pontoonin Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Part of the reason I am in support of Ben Carson. Common Sense.http://www.nationalreview.com/article/381176/redskins-name-game-ben-carson 1 Quote
Vegas_Sioux Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 So the standing rock tribe high school board admitted they had to drop the name or they'd be hypocrites. Quote
darell1976 Posted September 25, 2015 Posted September 25, 2015 So the standing rock tribe high school board admitted they had to drop the name or they'd be hypocrites. While other NA Tribes still have Indian school nicknames and no one is forcing them to change their name. If they claim people are not mascots, what message does that send. Good for them to drop their name. Quote
MafiaMan Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Am I hearing this correctly that McLaughlin (SD) is changing its nickname? Will SRCHS soon be following suit? Quote
Sioux-cia Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Am I hearing this correctly that McLaughlin (SD) is changing its nickname? Will SRCHS soon be following suit?http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2015/09/24/school-on-standing-rock-votes-to-stop-using-midget-mascot Quote
Sioux-cia Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 I hearing this correctly that McLaughlin (SD) is changing its nickname? Will SRCHS soon be following suit?Why would SRCHS change their nickname? They are Native American and as such their athletes can be called Warriors. Quote
tnt Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Why would SRCHS change their nickname? They are Native American and as such their athletes can be called Warriors. So if they chose to change their name, they shouldn't be allowed to take the name Trojans, Minutemen, etc.? Don't believe in double standards. Quote
petey23 Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Why would SRCHS change their nickname? They are Native American and as such their athletes can be called Warriors. noun 1. a person engaged or experienced in warfare; soldier. 2. a person who shows or has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness, as in politics or athletics. Don't think it is a prerequisite to be Native American in order to be known as a warrior. 3 Quote
Sioux-cia Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 noun 1. a person engaged or experienced in warfare; soldier. 2. a person who shows or has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness, as in politics or athletics. Don't think it is a prerequisite to be Native American in order to be known as a warrior.Correct. But, since the PC crowd dictates what is and what is not 'appropriate' we play by their rules. 2 Quote
Fetch Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 http://www.buzzfeed.com/lindseyadler/california-bans-use-of-redskins-as-nickname-for-public-schoo Quote
MafiaMan Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted twice for good measure...http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/news/north-dakota/3863554-native-american-community-remains-divided-und-nickname"To me, a nickname doesn't seem that important to me," Longie said. "Do we need a seat at the table? It would be really nice if they included us because we are a significant population, but it's just a nickname and whatever they choose, it's just a nickname."In short, a nickname "doesn't seem important" and "it's just a nickname," unless it's Fighting Sioux, then it matters.That's exactly what I've thought these anti-nickname folks have felt all along. "We couldn't care less about the nickname...unless it's Fighting Sioux." Quote
rochsioux Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted twice for good measure...http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/news/north-dakota/3863554-native-american-community-remains-divided-und-nickname So UND student R. J. Morin was on the task force that came up with the nickname list but doesn't plan to vote. What the he!! was this person doing being on the committee in the first place ? Great idea putting people on the committee that are this passionate about the nickname. What a brilliant leader we have in Kelley, how will UND ever survive when he leaves ! 4 Quote
bigskyvikes Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 So UND student R. J. Morin was on the task force that came up with the nickname list but doesn't plan to vote. What the he!! was this person doing being on the committee in the first place ? Great idea putting people on the committee that are this passionate about the nickname. What a brilliant leader we have in Kelley, how will UND ever survive when he leaves ! Glad you said it, felt the same way after reading it!! Now he just "stays out of it all because he's too busy".... What?!!!! Quote
jdub27 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 So UND student R. J. Morin was on the task force that came up with the nickname list but doesn't plan to vote. What the he!! was this person doing being on the committee in the first place ? Great idea putting people on the committee that are this passionate about the nickname. What a brilliant leader we have in Kelley, how will UND ever survive when he leaves !That is not accurate. He wasn't on the committee that came up with the nickname list, he was on the committee that came up with the process. He had zero direct say in what is being voted. In fact, he is more culpable in the recent lawsuit than anything if the Sioux tribes really feel like they should have a vote. Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 That is not accurate. He wasn't on the committee that came up with the nickname list, he was on the committee that came up with the process. He had zero direct say in what is being voted. In fact, he is more culpable in the recent lawsuit than anything if the Sioux tribes really feel like they should have a vote.I don't think people who are this uninterested in it should've been on either committee. The process sucked IMO, and he was involved in creating the process. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 I don't think people who are this uninterested in it should've been on either committee. The process sucked IMO, and he was involved in creating the process.That's a fair enough opinion and can't say I really disagree. Just pointing out the big difference between the two committees and that he had no direct impact on the names to be voted on. Quote
MafiaMan Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 That is not accurate. He wasn't on the committee that came up with the nickname list, he was on the committee that came up with the process. He had zero direct say in what is being voted. In fact, he is more culpable in the recent lawsuit than anything if the Sioux tribes really feel like they should have a vote.Nonetheless, that's kinda like being a delegate to the Republican or Democratic national convention...and then not voting in the ensuing residential election. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Adidas offers to help eliminate Native American mascotsAdidas has announced an initiative to help high schools nationwide drop Native American mascots.The German athletic shoe and apparel maker says it will offer free design resources to schools looking to shelve Native American mascots, nicknames, imagery or symbolism. The company also pledges to provide financial support to ensure the cost of changing is not prohibitive. Quote
77iceman Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Getting rid of ALL mascots associated with the Native American heritage, to me, just pushes the whole culture one step further off the map.I guess if people want to forget about the Native American culture all together, they are going in the right direction.I'll admit, I think the "Redskins" need to drop that name, like, twenty years ago. That one even offends me, and I have no Native Americanblood in me. "Indians" gets to me, as well, since the Native Americans weren't actually from India (dumb explorers).I'm sad that the native people of this land are taking one more giant step in the direction of being forgotten . . . but hey, we can name teamsafter thieves, murderers and rapists and it's all good (Vikings, Raiders, Buccaneers . . .)Do you suppose the New England Patriots are welcome to play in England?? You know, they fought and killed a bunch of their ancestors andgave a big middle finger to their whole country. 1 Quote
TrueSioux2000 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I'll admit, I think the "Redskins" need to drop that name, like, twenty years ago.Yes yes yes. It's in our nations capital, no less.Redskins is extremely hard to defend as being a term of "honor and respect," as owner Dan Snyder once said. Anything with a person for a logo and a name with something-"skins" is woefully obtuse Quote
ScottM Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Adidas offers to help eliminate Native American mascotsI'll wonder if they'll try to bid on outfitting some of the NC$$ schools that meet the NC$$'s stamp of approval for hypocrisy such as Florida State, Utah, etc. 2 Quote
obborg Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I guess if people want to forget about the Native American culture all together, they are going in the right direction.Removal of Native American mascots isn't really about wanting to forget about Native Americans. It's much more about wanting to forget about our own racism towards Native Americans. 2 Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Yes yes yes. It's in our nations capital, no less.Redskins is extremely hard to defend as being a term of "honor and respect," as owner Dan Snyder once said. Anything with a person for a logo and a name with something-"skins" is woefully obtuseYup, simply stating the color of their skin is tough to defend(It'd be like a team with an African American logo named Blackskins or Asian logo named yellowskins). I see a very distinct line drawn between Sioux and Redskins but some people lump them together which is disheartening when Sioux is the name of the tribe vs the pigment of their skin. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Removal of Native American mascots isn't really about wanting to forget about Native Americans. It's much more about wanting to forget about our own racism towards Native Americans.wow...ask students right now to name the three tribes that make up the great sioux nation and most will have no clue...ask students that attended und when they were known as the sioux and you will get a lot that will give you right answer. part of the beauty of naming und after the sioux was to educate students as they passed thru und of the history of north dakota and especially the plains indians...that's gone now. 1 Quote
scpa0305 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/first-nations-chief-supports-blackhawks-logo-redesign-of-black-hawk-210325573.html Quote
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