Conference Realignments - Take 2

[nodakvindy]

4 hours ago, FSSD said:

The big question is what do CBS and NBS do?

Hearing the FOX is going to put in a huge bid for Big Ten an potentially partner with CBS by given them one game a week, similar to what they have now with SEC, along with some basketball.  Turner might also be in play.  Should be interesting

[zonadub]

10 hours ago, FSSD said:

BIG - at 20 teams brings in Stanford/Cal-Berkley/UW/Notre Dame.  Oregon only comes in if Notre Dame says no.  And Oregon is only being considered because of Nike.

Have to believe the Bay Area with Stanford and Cal Berkeley (one or both) would be more sought after than Eugene and Portland. UW/Seattle would be much higher priority as well. Does the Nike/Phil Knight connection benefit anyone else in the conference? Or is it an Oregon Ducks thing only?

What will Note Dame do?

Will the Big XII go after 4 PAC 12 schools (U of A, ASU, UC Berkeley and Stanford) to get to 16 also? Is there too much bad blood after Colorado left for the PAC to let them back into the Big XII? Can the Big XII dump WV on the ACC?

Will west coast schools get any respect now?

What will the trickle-down effect be for the Dakota schools? Will there be a trickle-up effect?

more questions than answers

[SIOUXFAN97]

ASU, Arizona, Utah and Colorado to Big 12 by weeks end.... Then sec and Big 10 snatch up Cal Stanford Washington and Oregon.... Sucks to be Washington St and Oregon St I guess

[The Sicatoka]

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

interesting to see if SEC grabs 2 or more pac 12 teams or if they are happy with their tight footprint in the south like that?

[SIOUXFAN97]

part of mcfooleys dream was big 12 adding some MWC schools so they backfill downwards....funny now that big 12 and pac12 might merge they have no need to add csu or air force, san diego state or boise when they can add all thos pac 12 teams and go to 16, 18 or 20 schools.....

bad news for boise and any of the dak 4 that thought the mwc was gonna be calling.....

wonder if they go all in now for the full mvc invite knowing that football is stuck there for the next 30 years/

[SIOUXFAN97]

19 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

St. Thomas has HUGE upside. The NCHC should snatch them up. And any future conference moves in our other sports should include them if at all possible.

what exactly is the ncha waiting for to invite st tom?  if it's facilities....the invite will spur HUUUGE donations from their alumni so it would HELP the nchc that the invite comes before a new arena, right?

[FSSD]

Or does the PAC-12 grab the remaining Big 8 schools (KU/KSU/ISU/OSU) who have to be tired of the Texas drama.

[SIOUXFAN97]

22 minutes ago, FSSD said:

Or does the PAC-12 grab the remaining Big 8 schools (KU/KSU/ISU/OSU) who have to be tired of the Texas drama.

not sure why that isn't mentioned as a possibilty?  why is it assumed that the big12 would take over the pac 12?

plus the pac 12 would get their central time zone games...

[Siouxperfan7]

If 4 schools leave the PAC12, that leaves them with only 6 (after adding USC and UCLA to the B1G).  The PAC12 would have to take teams from the Mountan West.  But how many?  All of the conference?  And if all the MWC teams leave, does the Mountain West start over and take FCS schools ready to move up (Montana, Idaho, Dakota schools)  Gonna be a crazy next couple of weeks.  Especailly in this thread!

[homer]

28 minutes ago, FSSD said:

Or does the PAC-12 grab the remaining Big 8 schools (KU/KSU/ISU/OSU) who have to be tired of the Texas drama.

A conference that plays at the highest level and includes the states of Texas, Arizona and California is a pretty decent recruiting footprint.  Not sure why these two conferences haven’t just merged already other than each individual school holding out hope they are next to get the call and don’t want to commit.  

[SWSiouxMN]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

 

Best move the Big 12 can make right now. 

 

[SIOUXFAN97]

16 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

Best move the Big 12 can make right now. 

 

big12 must be like...why didn't this happen last year and we wouldn't have to gone after cincy and  central florida!!!!!!!!!!

[Sioux>Bison]

1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

If 4 schools leave the PAC12, that leaves them with only 6 (after adding USC and UCLA to the B1G).  The PAC12 would have to take teams from the Mountan West.  But how many?  All of the conference?  And if all the MWC teams leave, does the Mountain West start over and take FCS schools ready to move up (Montana, Idaho, Dakota schools)  Gonna be a crazy next couple of weeks.  Especailly in this thread!

If they feel the need to pull from the MWC, the teams will have to be on the same level as the average PAC 12/ Big 12 school. They do not have to add any G5 team if the PAC merge with the Big 12

[SIOUXFAN97]

14 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said:

If they feel the need to pull from the MWC, the teams will have to be on the same level as the average PAC 12/ Big 12 school. They do not have to add any G5 team if the PAC merge with the Big 12

tell mcfooley and domino

[ND-fan]

If all these changes happen pretty much ends either the pac 12 or the mountain west conference because whats left of Pac 12 and Mountain West would make for one stable conference that could be market to the west coast for broadcasting rights. The Big Power conferences are soon going to leave the NCAA make their deal on broadcasting for big name sports in football, basketball, and baseball. The only chance for the Summit , Big Sky and Missouri Valley would be merger to move up in football to FBS and hopefully upgrade enough in the other sports that they may be considered to be apart of big power conferences when they make there deal to leave the NCAA. I think NCAA could become NAIA college organization for all small midmajor conferences and Division II and Division III. This looks like beginning of the end of how we know division I sports in the US and it all being basically under one organization for all levels of schools. If i am missing something i would like to see how others see this plays out.

[zonadub]

2 hours ago, FSSD said:

Or does the PAC-12 grab the remaining Big 8 schools (KU/KSU/ISU/OSU) who have to be tired of the Texas drama.

Like this solution the best!

[Sioux>Bison]

59 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

tell mcfooley and domino

Heck even Oregon State and Washington State may be on the outside looking into the BiG12 absorbing only Arizona, ASU, Utah, and Colorado. Washington and Oregon might go either way. Nobody wants WSU or OSU so they might get pushed to the MWC if they are unlucky 

[homer]

Big12/Pac12/ACC will be survival of the fittest.  

G5 conferences may not look to expand and spend more money on travel if they know that all TV contract money is going to the power conferences and all $$$ games may be taken up by power conferences scheduling each other.   If anything they would be better off letting this shake out and tightening their footprints.  Expansion and added costs just dont seem like the right move.  

[Kab]

So these new conferences take their sports out of the ncaa

what happens to the sports like hockey that are big schools and little schools, some would be ncaa and some wouldn’t? 

[nodakvindy]

1 hour ago, Kab said:

So these new conferences take their sports out of the ncaa

what happens to the sports like hockey that are big schools and little schools, some would be ncaa and some wouldn’t? 

Exactly.  At this point there is no longer a reason to push for FBS, because all that matters are the Big Ten and SEC.  They are essentially another pro sports league now, so trying to compete with that is futile.  The million dollar question is how this shakes out for other sports.

[Sioux>Bison]

51 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

Exactly.  At this point there is no longer a reason to push for FBS, because all that matters are the Big Ten and SEC.  They are essentially another pro sports league now, so trying to compete with that is futile.  The million dollar question is how this shakes out for other sports.

This is going to not work out well for the everyday college football fan. Ones the tradition, history and in state rivalries go away so will the fans. Bad move that will cost these universities in the long run….

[nodak651]

12 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

what exactly is the ncha waiting for to invite st tom?  if it's facilities....the invite will spur HUUUGE donations from their alumni so it would HELP the nchc that the invite comes before a new arena, right?

Pretty sure things are moving along as quickly as possible.  Donations do not seem to be an issue.  https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22072092-highland-bridge-ford-ust-proposed-master-plan-and-zoning-text-amendments

[NoiseInsideMyHead]

8 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said:

This is going to not work out well for the everyday college football fan. Ones the tradition, history and in state rivalries go away so will the fans. Bad move that will cost these universities in the long run….

“Long run.”

Some might say we are witnessing a death spiral and there is nothing “long” about this run for college athletics.

Just wait until they achieve unionization or regular employment status.

[Yote 53]

21 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

 

I read somewhere this was a misreport and never happened.  AZ/ASU/CU/Utah never met with the Big 12.  

Big Ten has no plans on further expansion as it waits on Notre Dame to make a decision.  Everything is just kind of in a holding pattern.  

I think the Big 12 adding UCF, CInci, etc. may turn out to be a blunder.  Say things do settle down for the Big Ten/SEC as they add OU/UT & USC/UCLA and just decide that is good enough for now, until the ACC GOR expires in 2036 and this all fires up again a decade from now.  It would probably be better for the top of the Big 12 to leave and join up with the PAC (10) members and leave behind the new additions to the Big 12.  Why give up the PAC 12 to join up with Cincinnati and UCF?  I'd think Iowa State, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State, Texas Tech, and Baylor would just join the PAC instead.