COMMITTED UND Recruits

[Blackheart]

12 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

 

The kid became a fan in the Hak era, not the Berry era.  Did Berry even try recruiting him or did Carson just state he was playing for UND and Berry said "oh, what?  a kid WANTS to play for us?  We don't have to get only upperclassmen from Lindenwood and Alaska to make a team?"

Why wouldn’t UND recruit him?  Seems like an odd thing to say.

[siouxforce19]

1 minute ago, Blackheart said:

Why wouldn’t UND recruit him?  Seems like an odd thing to say.

Considering it just said in the Herald article he picked UND over Duluth, and how he liked the coaching staff and how they treated his family, it is pretty clear we were recruiting him. We didn’t just snap our fingers to make it happen. 

[shep]

25 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

 

The kid became a fan in the Hak era, not the Berry era.  Did Berry even try recruiting him or did Carson just state he was playing for UND and Berry said "oh, what?  a kid WANTS to play for us?  We don't have to get only upperclassmen from Lindenwood and Alaska to make a team?"

Ya that MUST be it. 
Berry is reading the Sunday Herald and gets the call from the kid. 

After introductions, the kid tells him he wants to come to UND.

Berry had one question: What position do you play?

 

Is that what you think happened here?

[fightingsioux4life]

39 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

Why wouldn’t UND recruit him?  Seems like an odd thing to say.

He was being sarcastic about Berry's ability to recruit top talent.

[brianvf]

53 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

The kid became a fan in the Hak era, not the Berry era.  Did Berry even try recruiting him or did Carson just state he was playing for UND and Berry said "oh, what?  a kid WANTS to play for us?  We don't have to get only upperclassmen from Lindenwood and Alaska to make a team?"

Don't forget UNO! 

At this point, Berry could get Fantilli to transfer over to UND and Eiserman to swap commitments to UND and you'd still be upset with him.  

[Big A HG]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

He was being sarcastic about Berry's ability to recruit top talent.

 

Thank you, sir!

[Blackheart]

2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

He was being sarcastic about Berry's ability to recruit top talent.

Yeah, was just having a little fun.

[stoneySIOUX]

11 hours ago, Big A HG said:

 

The kid became a fan in the Hak era, not the Berry era.  Did Berry even try recruiting him or did Carson just state he was playing for UND and Berry said "oh, what?  a kid WANTS to play for us?  We don't have to get only upperclassmen from Lindenwood and Alaska to make a team?"

Well, he said he's a Bulldog fan in an interview, so maybe a little credit is warranted to Bubs?

[stoneySIOUX]

10 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

He was being sarcastic about Berry's ability to recruit top talent.

You sure? Seems like HG thought Pilgrim was a slam dunk and Bubs didn't do much, based on that comment. Whatever, not a big deal. Just think Bubs deserves his roses every now and then. 

[burd]

10 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

You sure? Seems like HG thought Pilgrim was a slam dunk and Bubs didn't do much, based on that comment. Whatever, not a big deal. Just think Bubs deserves his roses every now and then. 

That's what happens when posters (we) keep posting from the same viewpoint:   others continue to expect it of you.    

[tnt]

28 minutes ago, burd said:

That's what happens when posters (we) keep posting from the same viewpoint:   others continue to expect it of you.    

Actually feel sorry for people that need to take a negative and pessimistic slant on everything.  How sad it would be to go through life not recognizing the many positives, especially after the horrible Covid years.  

[brianvf]

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/four-und-recruits-two-warroad-players-land-on-nhl-central-scoutings-final-draft-rankings

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UND has seven NHL draft picks lined up at forward for next season.

Incoming freshman Jayden Perron will soon be No. 8 — and he could be among the highest on the team.

Perron was ranked as the No. 43 North American skater available for the 2023 NHL Draft by the NHL's Central Scouting Bureau, leading all UND recruits.

UND defenseman commit Andrew Strathmann, who will come to campus in 2023 or 2024, is No. 44. Incoming freshman defenseman Jake Livanavage, who was passed over in last year's draft, is No. 181. Forward commit David Klee is at No. 188.

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The highest-drafted players on UND's 2023-24 roster at the moment are Dylan James (No. 40 overall, second round), Blake (No. 109 overall, fourth round), Jackson Kunz (No. 113 overall, fourth round) and incoming Omaha transfer Cameron Berg (No. 125 overall, fourth round).

 

[Big A HG]

8 hours ago, tnt said:

Actually feel sorry for people that need to take a negative and pessimistic slant on everything.  How sad it would be to go through life not recognizing the many positives, especially after the horrible Covid years.  

Been here for 16 years and have hardly been all that negative.  I'm sure after thousands of posts a few have slipped in.  The sudden change is that I, and many others, have given Berry his multiple chances to get the program back on track, but the program keeps getting worse while rival programs have had success.  Our program seemingly had multiple good recruits every year, not just the occasional good recruit maybe every couple of years.  We had more accountability top-to-bottom and now there seems like there is none when you see what kind of roster turnover and the fact we are relying on the portal more than peers to even make a roster.

[Big A HG]

9 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Well, he said he's a Bulldog fan in an interview, so maybe a little credit is warranted to Bubs?

 

Really?  Wow!  Here we have a kid who WAS a Sioux fan at a young age watching Hak's program.  Then, after watching UND under Berry's control he ends up a Duluth fan?  

[iramurphy]

56 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

Been here for 16 years and have hardly been all that negative.  I'm sure after thousands of posts a few have slipped in.  The sudden change is that I, and many others, have given Berry his multiple chances to get the program back on track, but the program keeps getting worse while rival programs have had success.  Our program seemingly had multiple good recruits every year, not just the occasional good recruit maybe every couple of years.  We had more accountability top-to-bottom and now there seems like there is none when you see what kind of roster turnover and the fact we are relying on the portal more than peers to even make a roster.

Fortunately, Berry doesn’t rely on you or anyone else on this forum for his “chances”.  
 

[Blackheart]

1 hour ago, Big A HG said:

 

Really?  Wow!  Here we have a kid who WAS a Sioux fan at a young age watching Hak's program.  Then, after watching UND under Berry's control he ends up a Duluth fan?  

But still commits to UND?

[Big A HG]

42 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

But still commits to UND?

 

Who said Duluth wanted him?

[Big A HG]

1 hour ago, iramurphy said:

Fortunately, Berry doesn’t rely on you or anyone else on this forum for his “chances”.  
 

 

Complacency kills.

[Blackheart]

5 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

 

Who said Duluth wanted him?

Nobody said anything about Duluth wanting him.  100% correct.

[brianvf]

I'd say that Duluth wanted him at least a little bit if they had a recruiting visit for him there.   

[siouxforce19]

19 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

 

Who said Duluth wanted him?

Everyone knows they did. It’s not exactly a secret. 

[iramurphy]

51 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

 

Complacency kills.

Who has been complacent?  It’s been a busy time in the last 10 days or so. The portal commits should fill some big holes. The Pilgrim commit is a great get. 

[Big A HG]

Just now, iramurphy said:

Who has been complacent?  It’s been a busy time in the last 10 days or so. The portal commits should fill some big holes. The Pilgrim commit is a great get. 

 

You don't understand and I don't know if you're playing ignorant on purpose or just don't get it, but I'll humor you nonetheless.
 

We've won one NCAA game in the past seven years...against AIC....one.  Woopdeedoo.  We've missed three NCAA tournaments on merit since our title many years ago.  The Ralph is emptying and big time recruits are less interested in UND than ever since the new Ralph opened.  We used to get excited about all the first round picks we'd land, now we're excited about Carson Pilgrim...a very good player, but overly exaggerated only because the rest of Berry's recruits lately have been so lackluster.  Berry's accountability with the roster has led to an ENTIRE defense leaving all at the same time, both of our top goalies leaving at the same time, and a bunch of forwards on top of that.  It's normal to have the odd player or two leave earlier than expected, but it's not normal to lose that many kids at once unless you have someone incompetent running the program.  Because of incompetent roster management, the best we can do is pluck players from Alaska and Lindenwood.  Then, our head coach secretly trademarked a logo through various levels of anonymity and still got caught, only to have it swept under the rug. 

 

We're the UNIVERSITY of NORTH DAKOTA.  We should be setting the f'ing standard with college hockey.  Instead, we've looked like a bunch of buffoons while Duluth and Denver are winning championships and the Goofs are playing in title games too.  I'm sorry you set the bar so low that you can't see anything but rainbows and tulips, but I have a higher standard for North Dakota hockey.

[jdub27]

Quite the mix of assumptions, opinions and even what appears to be a false accusations or two mixed in with the commentary there.

Congrats on having opinions though! Typing alot or often doesn't make them more valid or accurate though. Nor does trying to rain what others see as positive developments after what were disappointing results this year. 

[Big A HG]

44 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Quite the mix of assumptions, opinions and even what appears to be a false accusations or two mixed in with the commentary there.

Congrats on having opinions though! Typing alot or often doesn't make them more valid or accurate though. Nor does trying to rain what others see as positive developments after what were disappointing results this year. 

 

What would you deem incorrect or false?