fightingsioux4life Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, I Ranger said: Like everyone I agree what he did was reprehensible but is the kid not allowed to earn a living for the rest of his life? Like SCPA said, from all indications he hasn't had any character issues since so should the kid not be allowed to do anything the rest of his life! His is still only 20 years old with the better part of his life yet to live. Give the kid a chance and again like others have said with a very short leash! I get professional hockey in the NHL is different than a normal 9 to 5 job but would there be any issue if the kid was hired by XYZ Company? Agree. At some point, he needs to be allowed to move on with his life. I wonder if the victim's mom will push for a lifetime ban? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I wonder what gives king Bettman the power to deny Miller the opportunity to play in the NHL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Agree. At some point, he needs to be allowed to move on with his life. I wonder if the victim's mom will push for a lifetime ban? short answer? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: short answer? no I was being sarcastic because the mom can't seem to let this go. At some point, you have to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: I was being sarcastic because the mom can't seem to let this go. At some point, you have to move on. I’d rather hear from the actual victim instead of his mom all the time. I also don’t think they even want an apology because it doesn’t sound like it would be accepted anyway. It sounds like from what I have heard that there are a lot of issues between these 2 families, beyond just this incident. They should try to work things out privately, but doubt that’ll ever happen at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin G Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 5 hours ago, sioux rube said: According to Bettman he’s not eligible to play in the NHL as of now https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2469365 Here's the money quote: "I can't tell you that he'll ever be eligible to come into the NHL," Bettman said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 3 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: Agree. At some point, he needs to be allowed to move on with his life. I wonder if the victim's mom will push for a lifetime ban? I've read a few articles on this subject and apparently, he hasn't apologized to the victim. Or did it over Instagram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, Kevin G said: Here's the money quote: "I can't tell you that he'll ever be eligible to come into the NHL," Bettman said. Since when did the NHL care about anything except $$$$$? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforeverbaby Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 26 minutes ago, Goon said: I've read a few articles on this subject and apparently, he hasn't apologized to the victim. Or did it over Instagram. That is what I was reading. However, in today's news....I have read that he hasn't apologized...that he apologized over Instagram....that he apologized over Snapchat. All of those are supposed quotes from the victim's mother. Her story has changed a couple of times with different news organizations which makes me wonder what the whole truth is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, siouxforeverbaby said: That is what I was reading. However, in today's news....I have read that he hasn't apologized...that he apologized over Instagram....that he apologized over Snapchat. All of those are supposed quotes from the victim's mother. Her story has changed a couple of times with different news organizations which makes me wonder what the whole truth is. I caught that too. I don't know what to make of this story. Yes, he did some really bad things as kid, and that doesn't excuse this. I am not sure that he will be able to move on from this. I think that he's going to have to apologize and look sincere and contrite and to date, he hasn't done that. This Twitter thread covers these things. I know that the Boston Bruins are taking a lot of heat for signing him. Adam Wodon Wrote this: Quote It should be noted, too, that Miller's agent is Eustace King. King, an African-American and former college hockey player at Miami, is a member of the NHL’s Diversity and Inclusion Committee. King has thought enough of him to take him on, take him under his wing, and advocate for places to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforeverbaby Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Goon said: I caught that too. I don't know what to make of this story. Yes, he did some really bad things as kid, and that doesn't excuse this. I am not sure that he will be able to move on from this. I think that he's going to have to apologize and look sincere and contrite and to date, he hasn't done that. This Twitter thread covers these things. I know that the Boston Bruins are taking a lot of heat for signing him. Adam Wodon Wrote this: I would agree that I am not quite sure of what to make of it. It is a situation where there is never going to be a "winner". Both of them will have to live with it forever and no one else will ever truly know the complete story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 hours ago, sioux rube said: According to Bettman he’s not eligible to play in the NHL as of now https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2469365 Bring on the lawyers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Goon said: I've read a few articles on this subject and apparently, he hasn't apologized to the victim. Or did it over Instagram. The family will never allow or accept an apology... just an aweful situational around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Frozen4sioux said: The family will never allow or accept an apology... just an aweful situational around. Then Ms. Meyer-Crothers is part of the problem. She seems to want to keep this situation going indefinitely. At what point does this become ridiculous? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Then Ms. Meyer-Crothers is part of the problem. She seems to want to keep this situation going indefinitely. At what point does this become ridiculous? It became ridiculous a couple years back. IIRC, Mitchell tried to contact the family to apologize personally, and they refused. She is indeed part of the problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 12 hours ago, siouxfaninseattle said: It became ridiculous a couple years back. IIRC, Mitchell tried to contact the family to apologize personally, and they refused. She is indeed part of the problem. The more you find out about the type of people this mom and pop are... the more murky and cloudy the situation becomes and quite frankly how truly "UNbelievable" it all is. Mom and dad are exploiting this poor boy and as some people are suggesting... may have all along. *Disclaimer. Miller did bad !@#$ and he's paid dearly legally and professionally. He doesn't get a pass but he's now a whipping boy for virtue signalers who have no idea about him or what happened but can now get a soundbite in 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 https://www.bladeofsteel.com/Mitchell-Miller-and-his-agent-caught-in-a-lie-after-issuing-statement-173295?fbclid=IwAR1iPkKPYc0VdejWae5p5yhr-8Muw8fxYy8y-mxKNX-YkH7nzb3Tg3x0Coo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, sioux rube said: https://www.bladeofsteel.com/Mitchell-Miller-and-his-agent-caught-in-a-lie-after-issuing-statement-173295?fbclid=IwAR1iPkKPYc0VdejWae5p5yhr-8Muw8fxYy8y-mxKNX-YkH7nzb3Tg3x0Coo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Banner Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Check out Craig Ludwigs podcast "Suds with Luds". This week he has Ed Belfour and family on the show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Miller no longer in Bruins system per TSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 https://www.bladeofsteel.com/Local-parent-claims-Mitchell-Miller-is-being-lied-about-shares-her-side-of-the-story-173187&s=22 It’s hard to know what is the exact truth in this situation, but weren’t there NHL players that actually killed people while drinking and driving while they were adults and still managed to have careers in the NHL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfaninseattle Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Seems strange that the agent would release a statement that was false that could be so easily checked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, tnt said: https://www.bladeofsteel.com/Local-parent-claims-Mitchell-Miller-is-being-lied-about-shares-her-side-of-the-story-173187&s=22 It’s hard to know what is the exact truth in this situation, but weren’t there NHL players that actually killed people while drinking and driving while they were adults and still managed to have careers in the NHL? Seems that Mitchell might need to move to Europe and just try to sign with a Euro league or something. I don't think the mom is going to let this go, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, brianvf said: Seems that Mitchell might need to move to Europe and just try to sign with a Euro league or something. I don't think the mom is going to let this go, ever. The mom may find herself on the receiving end of a lawsuit for harrassment or financial injury if she keeps this up. At what point does the victim become a perpetrator? At some point, this nonsense has to stop and this woman needs to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 57 minutes ago, tnt said: https://www.bladeofsteel.com/Local-parent-claims-Mitchell-Miller-is-being-lied-about-shares-her-side-of-the-story-173187&s=22 It’s hard to know what is the exact truth in this situation, but weren’t there NHL players that actually killed people while drinking and driving while they were adults and still managed to have careers in the NHL? Heatley comes to mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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