NCAA Tournament

[tnt]

Did anyone watch the latest "Through these Doors"?   UND didn't look too excited when they announced they would get Michigan in the tournament.  Hope they play with more swagger than they showed in that clip.  Of course, they probably weren't in a good mood to begin with, being they had lost to Omaha a few days earlier.  

[tnt]

Well, so far not one of the teams I wanted yesterday won. For that matter, not one of the games at the "X" went the way I wanted either.  Things gotta be better today, right?

[nodakgirl93]

9 minutes ago, tnt said:

Did anyone watch the latest "Through these Doors"?   UND didn't look too excited when they announced they would get Michigan in the tournament.  Hope they play with more swagger than they showed in that clip.  Of course, they probably weren't in a good mood to begin with, being they had lost to Omaha a few days earlier.  

I'm not sure excited is a reaction to look for? Its another game with another good team. It's probably all business. 

[The Sicatoka]

14 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said:

I'm not sure excited is a reaction to look for? Its another game with another good team. It's probably all business. 

Surely they read the pundits and had a pretty good idea what was coming. 
Now if it'd been BC or RIT, not Mich, you'd likely see a reaction. 

[sioux rube]

UND playing the second game today?

[The Sicatoka]

4 minutes ago, sioux rube said:

UND playing the second game today?

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/

[burd]

1 hour ago, crb1 said:

Let’s hope for the resurgence of the dynamic UND team we know and support. 

If they win.  But if they lose, they're a bunch of lazy, can't-play-a-full-60, shoulda-played-elsewhere-or-here-for-a-different-coach, unSioux slugs.

[siouxweet]

1 hour ago, tnt said:

Did anyone watch the latest "Through these Doors"?   UND didn't look too excited when they announced they would get Michigan in the tournament.  Hope they play with more swagger than they showed in that clip.  Of course, they probably weren't in a good mood to begin with, being they had lost to Omaha a few days earlier.  

They also had a pretty good idea of who they were playing and knew they were in so no surprises.

[.357]

8 minutes ago, burd said:

For now, but if they lose, they're a bunch of lazy, can't-play-a-full-60, shoulda-played-elsewhere-or-here-for-a-different-coach, unSioux slugs.

Criticism would be relative to how they might lose, I suppose: in an ot thriller or a 1-7 drubbing. If the latter, they would probably deserve both barrels unless half of them had the flu, food poisoning or some other sickness.

[sioux rube]

29 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/schedules/

Thanks. I thought they were the early game 

[Oxbow6]

8 minutes ago, .357 said:

Criticism would be relative to how they might lose, I suppose: in an ot thriller or a 1-7 drubbing. If the latter, they would probably deserve both barrels unless half of them had the flu, food poisoning or some other sickness.

Michael Jordan circa 1997 Finals game 5 would like a word with you. 

[Wilbur]

Day of the playoffs and the topic at hand is how our fans will react to a loss.  

I guess that's the world of the message boards.  

[jk]

1 hour ago, tnt said:

Well, so far not one of the teams I wanted yesterday won. For that matter, not one of the games at the "X" went the way I wanted either.  Things gotta be better today, right?

I was pulling for BU in case Omaha failed.  And while I was indifferent to Cornell or Maine, Im hopeful Cornell can succeed where UMass didn't.  Hopeful but expecting to be disappointed.

[stoneySIOUX]

24 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Day of the playoffs and the topic at hand is how our fans will react to a loss.  

I guess that's the world of the message boards.  

Does this say more about the board or more about the team?

[.357]

58 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Michael Jordan circa 1997 Finals game 5 would like a word with you. 

And if he called & had a word with me, I'd tell him that he is in a league of his own.

[Kevin G]

Michigan Tech v BC at 1pm CT

MTU's most important player might be the referees. Tech needs to pound BC without taking penalties, while Pietila stands on his head.

[MafiaMan]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

Michael Jordan circa 1997 Finals game 5 would like a word with you. 

Word on the street was that he was out gambling and drinking until 4 am the day of the big game…”the flu game” 

[Brett0909]

24 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Does this say more about the board or more about the team?

Both? It’s on Berry to ultimately build and coach a squad to go out and win; something that we haven’t seen much at all of, in the playoffs for nearly a decade. Passionate fan loyalty and dedication is earned. And while it’s great to have thousands of fans supporting you wherever you go, giving you and the athletes travel destination opp’s and taking away much of their home advantage even when you're on the road, fans don’t OWE you that. Keeping in mind many fans have spent thousands of dollars lately to support the team only to routinely see them lose (destinations, NCHC and NCAA tourney), often in very lackluster fashion and when they were the better team on paper…you can’t really fault them for some pessimism or frustration in my book. I also don’t think the teams owes fans wins, or that it’s realistic to not lose. But you can’t have it both ways.
 

Analytically, I’d love to see UND’s record in the post-season vs expectation (KRACH or similar), under Berry. I could be wrong, but I expect it would show drastic underperformance vs expectation, which is what many fans struggle to understand. 
 

Most people I’ve talked to just expect UND to lose today, because that’s what keeps happening. I’m still holding out hope and like the bracket overall, but if I’m honest and had to bet my house one way or the other..I’d have to take the underdog in this one. Hopefully Berry and the boys can prove the naysayers wrong and start winning the games that matter. I’ll be cheering (and possibly some griping) for the team for as many games as they have this year and beyond, regardless. 

[stoneySIOUX]

2 hours ago, Brett0909 said:

Both? It’s on Berry to ultimately build and coach a squad to go out and win; something that we haven’t seen much at all of, in the playoffs for nearly a decade. Passionate fan loyalty and dedication is earned. And while it’s great to have thousands of fans supporting you wherever you go, giving you and the athletes travel destination opp’s and taking away much of their home advantage even when you're on the road, fans don’t OWE you that. Keeping in mind many fans have spent thousands of dollars lately to support the team only to routinely see them lose (destinations, NCHC and NCAA tourney), often in very lackluster fashion and when they were the better team on paper…you can’t really fault them for some pessimism or frustration in my book. I also don’t think the teams owes fans wins, or that it’s realistic to not lose. But you can’t have it both ways.
 

Analytically, I’d love to see UND’s record in the post-season vs expectation (KRACH or similar), under Berry. I could be wrong, but I expect it would show drastic underperformance vs expectation, which is what many fans struggle to understand. 
 

Most people I’ve talked to just expect UND to lose today, because that’s what keeps happening. I’m still holding out hope and like the bracket overall, but if I’m honest and had to bet my house one way or the other..I’d have to take the underdog in this one. Hopefully Berry and the boys can prove the naysayers wrong and start winning the games that matter. I’ll be cheering (and possibly some griping) for the team for as many games as they have this year and beyond, regardless. 

People get crucified on this board for saying parity is a factor, but ignoring it, especially in a game that is often a one-bounce game, is just wild to me. I think many fans don't have reasonable expectations anymore, frankly. The overreactions are absolutely obnoxious and drips with entitlement. A large amount of our fanbase sees every loss we have as "the boys aren't trying hard enough" or "they aren't real Sioux" or "the boys don't care enough" or "Bubs can't get them up for a big game", and that's what bothers me. We seem to have this expectation (not all of us, but some -- still the minority, but a loud and vocal one) that we should win every game just because we're North Dakota and that's how it works. College hockey is just different now than it used to be. Added parity with how the game of hockey works, we now have a game that is anyone's game each night. 

More often than not, the best team wins. I'm hoping we're the best team tonight. And if we aren't, it's not due to a magic potion whispered from Bubs, it's because the other team played better and finished their chances. 

 

[scpa0305]

1 hour ago, burd said:

If they win.  But if they lose, they're a bunch of lazy, can't-play-a-full-60, shoulda-played-elsewhere-or-here-for-a-different-coach, unSioux slugs.

This will be a dog fight. It’s a coin flip, even if we play well.

[scpa0305]

1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said:

People get crucified on this board for saying parity is a factor, but ignoring it, especially in a game that is often a one-bounce game, is just wild to me. I think many fans don't have reasonable expectations anymore, frankly. The overreactions are absolutely obnoxious and drips with entitlement. A large amount of our fanbase sees every loss we have as "the boys aren't trying hard enough" or "the boys don't care enough" or "Bubs can't get them up for a big game", and that's what bothers me. We seem to have this expectation (not all of us, but some -- still the minority, but a loud and vocal one) that we should win every game just because we're North Dakota and that's how it works. College hockey is just different now than it used to be . Added parity with how the game of hockey works, we now have a game that is anyone's game each night. 

More often than not, the best team wins. I'm hoping we're the best team tonight. And if we don't, it's not due to a magic potion whispered from Bubs, it's because we played better and finished our chances. 

 

Agreed 100%. But at some point a trend needs to be reviewed/assessed. Not today though! Big tilt tonight!

[stoneySIOUX]

1 minute ago, scpa0305 said:

Agreed 100%. But at some point a trend needs to be reviewed/assessed. Not today though! Big tilt tonight!

I'll agree with that. 

YES. Let's go. Man, I've got that nervous excitement going like crazy. I noticed it when it was 2-2 for Minny/UNO last night. Ugh, I love/hate the tournament lol

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

People get crucified on this board for saying parity is a factor, but ignoring it, especially in a game that is often a one-bounce game, is just wild to me.

Back when most games ended 6-4 a 'bad bounce' could be recovered from. It's 10% of scoring.
Last night a 'bad bouce' (blown tire) cost UNO a game. It was 20% of scoring in that 3-2 game. 

Basically, the uncontrollable's effect on outcomes has doubled (10% -> 20%) in the last few decades, and I'd say to the detriment of the better teams. 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

Has the host of this site been warned about the increase in traffic starting at 730 CT?

[Kevin G]

6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Back when most games ended 6-4 a 'bad bounce' could be recovered from. It's 10% of scoring.
Last night a 'bad bouce' (blown tire) cost UNO a game. It was 20% of scoring in that 3-2 game. 

Basically, the uncontrollable's effect on outcomes has doubled (10% -> 20%) in the last few decades, and I'd say to the detriment of the better teams. 

The lower scoring environment is so underappreciated. Shrink the goalie pads, stat!!