2023 Football Season

[Oxbow6]

"That's the next step for our program.....playing better on the road".  ~ Bubba

 

Me wanting to respond after watching the same hot garbage after a decade......

[shep]

What is Ziebarth's status?

[Nodak78]

The OL has been good all season but not yesterday.  At times UNI rushed 3 or 4 and got a sack.  Not good.

[Nodak78]

Just now, shep said:

What is Ziebarth's status?

Don't know yet they said he got twisted up.  Lower body injury.

[Wilbur]

9 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

At 6-5 can UND get a home playoff game if their bid is super high and they provide tents?? 

This will never get old.  The tent game in the bayou.  Every year the NCAA finds ways....every year. 

[Kab]

43 minutes ago, shep said:

What is Ziebarth's status?

Bubba said deal with it?

look forward to another week of his old comments

come out and show a little fire and pride coach 

[Midwestern Hawk]

10 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said:

The second half gets better……

I don't understand the play calling early whatsoever.  Why so different than NDSU?  Is it because we had the lead vs NDSU and were behind yesterday?  Why not run the ball for 5 yards instead of always trying to pass for 5 yards?  When Ziebarth left the game, he had 4 rushing attempts for 27 yards...and Tommy was 6-9 for 46 yards.  Don't understand the play calling at times.

 

We will all feel better in a week.

[ChrisUND1]

0 points.  187 yards of offense. 2 turnovers.  0-2 in red zone. Unfortunately, I watched the game and it seemed worse than those awful numbers.  What a disaster.  

[AJS]

It might not feel like it today, but there’s still a realistic chance at a program building season. Starts next week, but realistically break the rest of the season into two sets. (1) Next two (2) Last two. Start with the next two. Two sound wins and assess where you’re at in the conference / national landscape. 

[iramurphy]

On 10/6/2023 at 5:33 PM, Sioux>Bison said:

No their boosters $$$$$ are the ones who make the decisions, fans with no $$$$ are just that….. fans

Boosters/fans don’t make decisions (nor should they).They certainly can create pressure on the decision makers if they organize and provide enough of the necessary resources that would create a significant hardship if withheld or create important opportunities if given. 

[Wilbur]

Tommy can run the offense superbly at times, but there are things that we can't do based on his arm strength and size.  If we can't run the ball at all we are screwed.  If a team sits back in coverage he isn't hitting Belquist on a 20 yard slant because he doesn't have the arm to make that throw like we saw yesterday.  I think it's a credit to him that he will hold many records after leaving Grand Forks, truly remarkable with his skill set.  He will likely pass Klancher this season for TD passes, that's pretty impressive.  

Open question:  

Does it say more about the other guys not being close to ready for game situations that we haven't seen them more?  Or is Bubba sticking to his guy and that's final?

I'm just as ticked as everyone.  Seems like last week was three steps forward....now three back.  

[Hans8891]

There is a lot of season left. We can still make playoffs, if we learn from the South Dakota state and northern Iowa losses.  As we have all year, I expect we will play well at home, and I hope we have our full compliment of fans tailgating to support them.  We will certainly be there. We do, however, need to learn from these very very bad road losses. One, the coaches need to have the team prepared and ready to play on the road.  That has clearly not happened. 2, if something isn’t working, adjustments have to be made. Teams stack the line of scrimmage , as every team should do if they watch film on us, there has to be adjustment to stretch the field. If Tommy can’t do that, we have the deepest quarterback roster we’ve had in years.  We have a very good stable of wide receivers, including a proven Transfer portal deep threat.   Use them.  If we are struggling with pass protection on the line, don’t go with an empty backfield, and not provide any protection for the quarterback. Adapt To the situation and don’t just play the game plan that you thought you were going to play whether it works or not. Recognize and adjust. Clinging to a game plan stubbornly when it is clearly, not being successful is not a Sign of coaching, prowess. Recognition and adaptation, are what separates poor coaches from the great ones. That to me has been our biggest failure from a coaching staff. If it works, great. If it doesn’t work, do something different. Make a change.

[Irish]

7 minutes ago, Hans8891 said:

There is a lot of season left. We can still make playoffs, if we learn from the South Dakota state and northern Iowa losses.  As we have all year, I expect we will play well at home, and I hope we have our full compliment of fans tailgating to support them.  We will certainly be there. We do, however, need to learn from these very very bad road losses. One, the coaches need to have the team prepared and ready to play on the road.  That has clearly not happened. 2, if something isn’t working, adjustments have to be made. Teams stack the line of scrimmage , as every team should do if they watch film on us, there has to be adjustment to stretch the field. If Tommy can’t do that, we have the deepest quarterback roster we’ve had in years.  We have a very good stable of wide receivers, including a proven Transfer portal deep threat.   Use them.  If we are struggling with pass protection on the line, don’t go with an empty backfield, and not provide any protection for the quarterback. Adapt To the situation and don’t just play the game plan that you thought you were going to play whether it works or not. Recognize and adjust. Clinging to a game plan stubbornly when it is clearly, not being successful is not a Sign of coaching, prowess. Recognition and adaptation, are what separates poor coaches from the great ones. That to me has been our biggest failure from a coaching staff. If it works, great. If it doesn’t work, do something different. Make a change.

I think Bubba is very resistant (and almost incapable) of change.  We've had a 10 year sample of his work. Everyone seems to understand this except one person - Our AD who thought it was a great idea to extend Bubba after his fantastic 5-6 season (where he pissed away a chance to beat the Bison).  Now we're stuck.  

[fightingsioux4life]

7 hours ago, CMSioux said:

Pre season this game was 50/50 on my schedule, NI has a strong home field advantage history. Joining the MVFC puts several drivable away games on the schedule every year. It also replaces meaningless Portland State games with Northern Iowa. There was a great contingency of UND fans at this game. Huge tailgate spot (mostly due to player parents but ordinary fans also, impressive). 8/3 still achievable. I will be at every remaining game as I choose to support the team in person rather than cheap shot on the Internet. Rough game, head scratcher, gotta move on and enjoy the season for what it is - games played by student athletes. 

So it's no different than high school athletics? That is the attitude holding FB and other programs back.

You may be satisfied with 6-5 and 7-4 seasons with an occasional playoff appearance sprinkled in, but I think we are capable of so much more.

[Midwestern Hawk]

8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So it's no different than high school athletics? That is the attitude holding FB and other programs back.

You may be satisfied with 6-5 and 7-4 seasons with an occasional playoff appearance sprinkled in, but I think we are capable of so much more.

That is the real question at this point.  Is 5-7 wins a season and an occasional playoff appearance enough for the University of North Dakota?

[zonadub]

I know it is water under the bridge at this point, but watching what DeBoer is doing at Washington or Vigen is doing at Montana State, you will never convince me that a team has to take a backwards step when there is a coaching change.

[fightingsioux4life]

5 minutes ago, zonadub said:

I know it is water under the bridge at this point, but watching what DeBoer is doing at Washington or Vigen is doing at Montana State, you will never convince me that a team has to take a backwards step when there is a coaching change.

And I'll bet those student-athletes are building life-long relationships and learning life lessons while also winning. 

[SiouxBoys]

30 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

So it's no different than high school athletics? That is the attitude holding FB and other programs back.

You may be satisfied with 6-5 and 7-4 seasons with an occasional playoff appearance sprinkled in, but I think we are capable of so much more.

Can you please point out to me a single time they said they were satisfied with that? 

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, SiouxBoys said:

Can you please point out to me a single time they said they were satisfied with that? 

It's the general attitude: We lost, bad game.....but they're just "student-athletes", so we should just move on. You have to read between the lines to see it, but it is there.

@UND-FB-FAN is right: We have been conditioned to accept slightly-above .500 football seasons as the best we can hope for. And I honestly think we can do much better.

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

3 hours ago, Hans8891 said:

As we have all year, I expect we will play well at home, and I hope we have our full compliment of fans tailgating to support them.  We will certainly be there. We do, however, need to learn from these very very bad road losses. One, the coaches need to have the team prepared and ready to play on the road.  That has clearly not happened. 2, if something isn’t working, adjustments have to be made.

I wish all of these could happen too, but we all know we lost several attendees by losing yesterday (major momentum killer coming off the NDSU win) and why would the coaches just figure out the road issues now? It’s been an issue for years. It will continue to be an issue under this leadership structure. 

[The Sicatoka]

UND is like 23-2 in last 25 at the Alerus. So what does that make Bubba’s career road record.

I think Bubba is afraid to win on the road and make another coach look bad in front of their crowd.

Like I said, all the work against NDSU means nothing if you don’t follow it up. Well… 

Not having the team ready is on the coaches, starting at the top. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

 

I think Bubba is afraid to win on the road and make another coach look bad in front of their crowd.

 

 

Certainly not a good quality or perspective to have if you’re a head football coach. 
 

It really is just baffling (and honestly embarrassing) how different the team is between home and away. 

[Siouxperfan7]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

UND is like 23-2 in last 25 at the Alerus. So what does that make Bubba’s career road record.

I think Bubba is afraid to win on the road and make another coach look bad in front of their crowd.

Like I said, all the work against NDSU means nothing if you don’t follow it up. Well… 

Not having the team ready is on the coaches, starting at the top. 

UND's road record under Bubba....18-37

[Midwestern Hawk]

11 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

UND's road record under Bubba....18-37

So many big game "debacles" over the last decade on the road.

 

[UND Football Fan]

Comparison to last 25 home and 25 away games. 

23-2 Home last 25

6-19 Away last 25. 
of those 6 wins only Youngstown 7-4 had a winning record.